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Post by Dane on Mar 1, 2009 23:05:10 GMT -8
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Post by Dane on Mar 4, 2009 16:39:35 GMT -8
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Post by Dane on Mar 4, 2009 18:46:25 GMT -8
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Post by rt1commuter on Mar 4, 2009 19:15:39 GMT -8
My buddies dad did that audit!
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Post by Neil on Mar 5, 2009 16:51:18 GMT -8
The BC Ferry Commission site is a good source of background to many of the developments in recent years. A couple of the most interesting parts of this seminar are the Coast Ferries story from Bill New, which was posted on this forum a couple of years ago, and is really worthwhile if you missed it the first time around, as well as a very insightful explanation as to why the Alternate Service Providers program is such a sham, from WMG CEO Stephen Frasher.
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Post by Dane on Apr 16, 2009 21:31:23 GMT -8
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Post by Dane on Apr 16, 2009 21:47:58 GMT -8
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Jun 30, 2009 18:44:36 GMT -8
I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I came across my old scrapbook with yellowed and tattered newspaper clippings of BC Ferries...here are a couple from 1981.
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Post by Dane on Jun 30, 2009 22:29:13 GMT -8
What's the story behind the weird Rte 1 schedule? Why didn't they operate hourly? (as opposed to, for example, the "115pm" sailing from Tsawwassen)
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 30, 2009 22:48:42 GMT -8
Following the Alberni grounding in 1979, BCF adjusted schedules so as to have ferries not meet in the tight confines of Active Pass. In 1980 ferries based in Tsawwassen left on the hour while those based at SWB left at 15 minutes past the hour. (It may have been the other way around.) The 1981 schedule reflects, some of that logic as well as the QOB's speed. By 1982 all four V class had been lifted and I believe that year they returned to the tried & true top of the hour sailings from both sides.
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Post by Dane on Jul 1, 2009 21:17:37 GMT -8
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Post by kevins on Jul 2, 2009 13:25:25 GMT -8
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Post by Mike C on Jul 2, 2009 13:41:35 GMT -8
Thanks for posting that Kevin. Cool, interesting stuff to read... just a note to everyone tries clicking on it, the link itself is a dud - you need to copy and paste it into your browser's address bar.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Jul 2, 2009 14:30:49 GMT -8
Thanks, Kevin..!
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Post by bcferryfan87 on Jul 2, 2009 20:49:38 GMT -8
I must be missing something I can't get that link for flensburger (sp) to work; I did try copying and putting it into the address bar separately as discussed also. Hmmmm!
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Post by Northern Exploration on Jul 3, 2009 7:24:21 GMT -8
I must be missing something I can't get that link for flensburger (sp) to work; I did try copying and putting it into the address bar separately as discussed also. Hmmmm! Worked for me without having to cut and paste - just clicked on the link.
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Post by cohocatcher on Jul 3, 2009 13:40:53 GMT -8
I must be missing something I can't get that link for flensburger (sp) to work; I did try copying and putting it into the address bar separately as discussed also. Hmmmm! Worked for me without having to cut and paste - just clicked on the link. It might depend on which browser one is using. I'm using IE 8 (for some things, Safari for others) and the cut and paste routine worked.
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Post by Dane on Jul 14, 2009 13:59:37 GMT -8
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Post by Dane on Jul 14, 2009 15:49:24 GMT -8
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Post by Dane on Jul 14, 2009 16:04:13 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Jul 14, 2009 21:34:51 GMT -8
I'm quite happy to have speculation ruined by actual information. Where did you come upon this study, Dane? I didn't see any reference to it on the BC Ferries website. Looks like islands such as Hornby will be getting larger Kuper type vessels, when they finally get built. Not very exciting, but I suppose that's the most economical design. Interesting that one of the proposals shows a vessel with the passenger lounge in the middle, sort of like the ex-WSF Kulshan. The current business plan calls for a schedule of minor vessel replacement up to 2016 to be announced this fiscal year, so we might actually find out if any of these designs might come to fruition. So far, only the Tenaka has been definitely targeted for replacement. A few months ago, David Hahn was musing about the low cost of steel possibly allowing for more newbuilds, but on the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me if they did some patch jobs to keep the minor boats around even longer... depending on TC's indulgence, of course.
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Post by Mill Bay on Jul 15, 2009 9:23:18 GMT -8
I'm quite happy to have speculation ruined by actual information. Where did you come upon this study, Dane? I didn't see any reference to it on the BC Ferries website. Looks like islands such as Hornby will be getting larger Kuper type vessels, when they finally get built. Not very exciting, but I suppose that's the most economical design. Interesting that one of the proposals shows a vessel with the passenger lounge in the middle, sort of like the ex-WSF Kulshan. You've got about a half and half split between variations on the Kuper, and other models that are labelled as variants of the Kuper but look suspiciously Skeena-ish. Perhaps, it is also possible we may see something that comes along looking very close to the Skeena... although it wouldn't really be, because the Skeena Queen is a legacy of the evil NDP era, of course. Those center casing ones would also be interesting to see, but I'm a little confused by the one that has nearly square corners. Looks like the shape of the ex-John Atlanctic Burr before it become Kuper and I wonder how it would fit into any of the berths used on the southern routes. Also interesting how, even with the options listed a sea keeping variants, you're still seeing only a lot of central wheelhouse open cardeck models with very little enclosing of the cardeck except for higher bulwarks. It seems likely that, once all the little former MOH ships are gone, and the last B- Class have been retired, we will likely never see a single-ended ferry be built afterward.
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Post by Curtis on Jul 15, 2009 10:29:28 GMT -8
It seems likely that, once all the little former MOH ships are gone, and the last B- Class have been retired, we will likely never see a single-ended ferry be built afterward. I guess Washington State members can then say to us, "welcome to our world." We'll still see the Spirits and Northern boats for the decades to come so it won't be that boring.
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Post by Dane on Jul 15, 2009 18:51:32 GMT -8
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Post by Mill Bay on Jul 15, 2009 20:29:58 GMT -8
Very interesting. Their designs overall seem to be a lot more visually appealing and geometrically balanced than the I-Sky. I wonder if we may ever see minor or intermediate vessels with the significantly higher bulwarks around the cardecks and the visors at each end for use on open water crossings. One of the concept vessels in the BCFerries document seemed to look like it might be such a design.
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