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Post by old_wsf_fan on Feb 10, 2007 21:01:46 GMT -8
It has been brought up many times about maintenence being put off due to budget concerns and painting is a low priority, but when does WSF paint their vessels?
I am talking about complete paint refinishing, not just touch up or partial jobs. It seems like the boats don't look as good as they used to. Could it be the materials themselves that just don't seem to look as good to me?
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Post by Barnacle on Feb 10, 2007 21:06:48 GMT -8
Evergreenfleet and I were talking about that this morning. For my part, I believe that the ferries really haven't looked consistently beautiful since the early 1980s. The state switched to a two-part epoxy paint, which required respirators to apply, and the deckhands really couldn't do maintenance on paint with passengers aboard for that reason. Plus, drying paintwork was a major factor in the grounding of the Hyak in 1986, all of which led to the crews not doing paintwork anymore. Add inconsistent maintenance funding, and all of this totals up to boats getting painted anywhere from every three to seven years.
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Post by EGfleet on Feb 10, 2007 22:18:37 GMT -8
Evergreenfleet and I were talking about that this morning. For my part, I believe that the ferries really haven't looked consistently beautiful since the early 1980s. The state switched to a two-part epoxy paint, which required respirators to apply, and the deckhands really couldn't do maintenance on paint with passengers aboard for that reason. Plus, drying paintwork was a major factor in the grounding of the Hyak in 1986, all of which led to the crews not doing paintwork anymore. Add inconsistent maintenance funding, and all of this totals up to boats getting painted anywhere from every three to seven years. Also I heard somewhere that the last round of painting was done with some paint that proved to be inferior and lead to premature rusting. Happily, the state seems to be finally working on catching up. The Sealth and Elwha both look great.
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Post by zman on Feb 12, 2007 10:43:21 GMT -8
The Issaquah is in sad shape. One side of the Puyallup is in need of some fixin up. The Chelan is lookin shabby. It has gotta be tough to be able to rotate every boat out of service to do painting.
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Post by Barnacle on Feb 12, 2007 11:50:10 GMT -8
It has gotta be tough to be able to rotate every boat out of service to do painting. Don't forget 'expensive,' either.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Feb 18, 2007 20:32:03 GMT -8
I again drove on Highway 99 today and saw both the Chelan and the Puyallup at Colman dock. Again I must say that these ferries really need PAINTING.
I know it costs money, takes time out of the schedule they just don't have right now, but wow, too much rust is coming through.
I for one would gladly pay more for car tabs again to restore funding! Maybe some close up photos sent to our favorite people down in Olympia and a mention of how a shabby looking vessel gives the State's no. 1 tourist attraction a black eye, might get their attention. Just a thought.
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Post by hergfest on Feb 18, 2007 20:33:59 GMT -8
WSF doesn't have enough boats to replace them. The Chelan can only cover the Edmonds-Kingston route for a little while before she has to go in for refit. She has to get back to the San Juans in time for the Spring Schedule.
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Post by chokai on Mar 3, 2007 19:24:03 GMT -8
Noted that Tacoma which is in the dry dock at Todd for the rudder "flop" is now wrapped for painting. At least on the side towards the city, whether that be port or starboard can't really tell. :-)
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Post by SS Shasta on Mar 29, 2007 14:37:06 GMT -8
It was mentioned in another post that MV Issaquah will soon be finishing her annual maintenance cycle. Is she getting that long overdue coat of new paint? She was in sad, sad shape the last time I saw her about a year ago; rust was showing almost everywhere.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Mar 29, 2007 15:07:18 GMT -8
It was mentioned in another post that MV Issaquah will soon be finishing her annual maintenance cycle. Is she getting that long overdue coat of new paint? She was in sad, sad shape the last time I saw her about a year ago; rust was showing almost everywhere. Yes, but it won't be a total repaint (if I read the IFB correctly).
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 30, 2007 8:01:24 GMT -8
I don't think it's a full-bare-metal job like the Elwha got, but I thought it was getting some pretty good touch up. It did look a bit rough coming in.
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Post by zman on Mar 31, 2007 11:52:37 GMT -8
The worst of it is inside the car deck. There is alot of rust, to say the least.
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Post by Barnacle on Apr 1, 2007 16:04:16 GMT -8
Well, once again we're handicapped by the lack of vessels for relief purposes. The Elwha's continued absence crunches everyone else's turn in the shower, so to speak.
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Post by zman on Apr 1, 2007 21:09:13 GMT -8
It really does...it is crazy to see how important any one boat is to the entire fleet!
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Post by Barnacle on Apr 1, 2007 21:10:31 GMT -8
To say that WSF's maintenance schedule is precisely balanced is an understatement... sometimes it's more like 'precariously' balanced. ;D
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Post by zman on Apr 5, 2007 11:39:25 GMT -8
It would have been MUCH easier if the TACOMA did not decide to have that rudder issue...I swear, every time that a big boat needs to go in, something comes up.
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Post by Barnacle on Apr 5, 2007 14:51:10 GMT -8
It would have been MUCH easier if the TACOMA did not decide to have that rudder issue...I swear, every time that a big boat needs to go in, something comes up. I'm not quite sure I follow you... in this case, something came up so two big boats (Tacoma/Elwha) needed to go in.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Apr 5, 2007 14:56:51 GMT -8
I think what mr. zman means is that due to the tacoma incident, everyone got pushed back a month for maintenance.
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Post by Barnacle on Apr 5, 2007 15:50:10 GMT -8
Pushed back, trimmed down, postponed... It's getting to be a sport, guessing which boat will be on the hook for a given run.
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Post by zman on Apr 6, 2007 8:09:38 GMT -8
I'm not quite sure I follow you... in this case, something came up so two big boats (Tacoma/Elwha) needed to go in. I wanted to leave the ELWHA out of this conversation, as she has been useless for the last year. (Hopefully, it will not be too much longer) WSF "sped up" the maintenance on the WENATCHEE because of the TACOMA being put out of service.
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Post by Barnacle on Apr 6, 2007 12:02:16 GMT -8
No telling about the Elwha... I know there's hope in the planning division for having it back on the run by summer schedule, but I think they've got the timing cut a bit fine if you get my drift.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Apr 6, 2007 12:08:24 GMT -8
I noticed the summer schedule this year seems to be starting later than usual. Did the messed-up maintenance schedule have anythign to do with it?
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Post by Barnacle on Apr 6, 2007 18:01:35 GMT -8
Not that I'm aware of. Every so often, it gets pushed back two weeks to compensate for the forward drift to keep the start of the schedule on Sunday. It's probably about time.
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Post by SS Shasta on Apr 9, 2007 16:44:32 GMT -8
I wonder if MV Issaquah will have a new coat of paint after she completes her annual maintenance period? Isn't she considered the shabbiest of the shabby?
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Post by SS Shasta on Apr 22, 2007 15:34:36 GMT -8
The Issaquah is in sad shape. One side of the Puyallup is in need of some fixin up. The Chelan is lookin shabby. It has gotta be tough to be able to rotate every boat out of service to do painting. Just wondering if MV Issaquah finally got her new coat of paint during her recently completed annual maintenance period?
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