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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 16, 2016 9:13:42 GMT -8
Here's my compilation video of ship horn soundings at Active Pass, heard on July 12 & 13, 2016 during my visit at Galiano Island cemetery.
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 16, 2016 9:55:02 GMT -8
Two comments & a request:
1 - They need to retrofit the Spirits with proper 3-tone BC Ferry horns. That is one thing about the Spirits that I don't like.
2 - It seems that BCF crews have finally been taught not to use that single tone function on the Coastal class vessels. I have only heard the 3-tone version in my recent trips 'down south'. Can certain parties here on the WCFF take some credit in teaching the crews 'right from wrong'?
Request: Mr. Horn can you please label the video with the name of the vessel producing the horn sound each time we hear a horn in the video. I realize that might be a lot of work & I can understand why you might not want to do that. Example: At the start of the video we see a Seaspan vessel & hear a horn that I think is from an unseen BC Ferry vessel that may be the Nanaimo, the New West, or maybe the Celebration. Or maybe Seaspan has a 3-tone horn that sounds like a BC Ferry?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 16, 2016 10:38:34 GMT -8
Two comments & a request: 1 - They need to retrofit the Spirits with proper 3-tone BC Ferry horns. That is one thing about the Spirits that I don't like. 2 - It seems that BCF crews have finally been taught not to use that single tone function on the Coastal class vessels. I have only heard the 3-tone version in my recent trips 'down south'. Can certain parties here on the WCFF take some credit in teaching the crews 'right from wrong'? Request: Mr. Horn can you please label the video with the name of the vessel producing the horn sound each time we hear a horn in the video. I realize that might be a lot of work & I can understand why you might not want to do that. Example: At the start of the video we see a Seaspan vessel & hear a horn that I think is from an unseen BC Ferry vessel that may be the Nanaimo, the New West, or maybe the Celebration. Or maybe Seaspan has a 3-tone horn that sounds like a BC Ferry? 1) Agreed on the bad spirituality sound. They should fix that in Poland. 2) Every time I saw C-Cel this week, she was tooting her 3-tone horn. I was very happy to notice that consistent trend. 3) Good idea. I've now added the list of 30 sounds to the description section of the YouTube file, for you to read while you listen to it. You can also see it here: 1 Coastal Celebration (unseen) 2 Coastal Celebration (seen at far end of pass) 3 Queen of New Westminster (in the middle of the pass) 4 Spirit Class cows in the pass 5 Queen of New Westminster (unseen) 6 Coastal Celebration (in middle of pass) 7 Queen of New Westminster (far end of pass) 8 Spirit Class cows in the pass 9 Coastal Celebration (at far end of pass) 10 Queen of Nanaimo (unseen) 11 Queen of Nanaimo (at far end of pass) 12 Mayne Queen (coming from Village Bay) 13 Spirit Class (unseen) 14 Spirit Class cows in the pass 15 Queen of New Westminster (unseen) 16 Coastal Celebration (in the pass) 17 Spirit Class cows in the pass 18 Spirit Class cows in the pass 19 Queen of Cumberland (in the pass) 20 Queen of Nanaimo (in the pass) 21 Spirit Class ferry (unseen) 22 Spirit Class ferry (unseen) 23 Spirit Class cows in the pass 24 Queen of Nanaimo (coming from Village Bay) 25 Queen of Nanaimo (at far end of pass) 26 Queen of New Westminster (in middle of pass) 27 Spirit Class cows in the pass 28 Coastal Celebration (in middle of pass) 29 Mayne Queen on board 30 Mayne Queen on board --------------------------- Seaspan ships never sounded their horns when I was there. Not at all.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 16, 2016 11:38:21 GMT -8
Two comments & a request: Request: Mr. Horn can you please label the video with the name of the vessel producing the horn sound each time we hear a horn in the video. Desire for quality wins, and labels are now annotated into the actual video view. Thanks for the best-practices suggestion. It was worth the work.
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 16, 2016 12:11:08 GMT -8
Desire for quality wins, and labels are now annotated into the actual video view. Thanks for the best-practices suggestion. It was worth the work. Thanks ... I owe you some more train pics from Canyon Country ...
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Post by Mayne on Jul 16, 2016 21:25:59 GMT -8
Here's my compilation video of ship horn soundings at Active Pass, heard on July 12 & 13, 2016 during my visit at Galiano Island cemetery. Is it really bad that with the exception of the Spirits I can tell you exactly what vessel was sounding its horn???
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 14, 2016 16:57:46 GMT -8
Here's some more of Swanson's song on the Queen of Nanaimo:
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Post by mariner42 on Jan 31, 2017 22:04:38 GMT -8
Please locate in proper thread.
Quite a few forum members speak with admiration of the Airchime whistles on our local ferries. They should know something of their history.
Airchime whistles were invented by Robert E. Swanson who was a really unusual and multi-talented engineer who it seems could do anything he set his mind to.
His achievements are well-known and information about him and his whistles is available. Do yourself a favour and check-out his story. He was a logging historian, a poet, a
Provincial steam inspector and a whistle inventor. His whistles are/were musical instruments. They're on ships all over the world and on many thousands of railroad locomotives.
Google: Robert E Swanson KNOW B.C. com Robert Swanson(inventor)Wikipedia Robert Swanson - Harbour Publishing Canadian Railway Hall Of Fame - Airtime 2004 ..... all good reading.
Also on the web two videos I'm confident you will really enjoy:
Robert Swanson - Whistle Farm - 10m:32s Robert Swanson - Whistle Talk - 30m:49s ......I think these are a "must see." He was quite a man. Very clever but also likeable, entertaining and funny.
I hope you enjoy his story as much as I did. Cheers!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 18, 2017 21:23:01 GMT -8
Links change over time and expire or become obsolete. That's a normal thing.
It is unreasonable to expect a person to continually move links from one host to the next.
But it is reasonable to assume and expect that linked photos and videos and sound-bites have a limited shelf-life of approximately 5 years.
There is no need to ask people to fix broken links from 8 years ago.
What were you doing 8 years ago, and are you able to find it again and re-post it now?
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Post by WettCoast on Feb 19, 2017 10:17:26 GMT -8
Links change over time and expire or become obsolete. That's a normal thing. It is unreasonable to expect a person to continually move links from one host to the next. But it is reasonable to assume and expect that linked photos and videos and sound-bites have a limited shelf-life of approximately 5 years. There is no need to ask people to fix broken links from 8 years ago. What were you doing 8 years ago, and are you able to find it again and re-post it now? When I find an old post of mine where the links no longer work, I will generally take the time to fix those links. This is done piecemeal, however. Nothing systematic about it. If someone asks me to fix an old link I will do it if I can.
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Post by Kahloke on May 3, 2017 19:06:29 GMT -8
Heard this in a video: the new Hyundai Ioniq's welcome chime bears a passing resemblance to a certain sound heard aboard many a BC Ferry. It's not an exact replica, but it's close. Here's a link to said video. The chime can be heard at the 0:54 mark.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 3, 2017 19:18:50 GMT -8
Heard this in a video: the new Hyundai Ioniq's welcome chime bears a passing resemblance to a certain sound heard aboard many a BC Ferry. It's not an exact replica, but it's close. Here's a link to said video. The chime can be heard at the 0:54 mark. We are nearing Hyundai terminal. It's time for all passengers to please proceed to the car deck.
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Post by fivethej on Jul 18, 2017 14:12:53 GMT -8
None of the links posted in here work.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 2, 2017 16:34:02 GMT -8
An assortment of ship horns, heard on August 31, 2017
- Queen of New Westminster's horn is in poor shape
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Post by queenofdelta on Sept 14, 2017 14:07:09 GMT -8
An assortment of ship horns, heard on August 31, 2017 - Queen of New Westminster's horn is in poor shape (video) poor ol' Westie needs some vocal lessons! but she still sounds great, I think. not quite as melodic as the 'Nan or the 'Van but still pretty nice. speaking of - I heard from some other ferry fans at the Nanaimo's decommissioning that both her own and the Vancouver's Airchimes have been saved. can anyone confirm this? -qod
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Post by Mayne on Sept 14, 2017 18:00:20 GMT -8
An assortment of ship horns, heard on August 31, 2017 - Queen of New Westminster's horn is in poor shape (video) poor ol' Westie needs some vocal lessons! but she still sounds great, I think. not quite as melodic as the 'Nan or the 'Van but still pretty nice. speaking of - I heard from some other ferry fans at the Nanaimo's decommissioning that both her own and the Vancouver's Airchimes have been saved. can anyone confirm this? -qod Yes I can confirm that the Nanaimos Airchimes have been saved. As for the Vancouvers I do not know.
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Post by nannyman on Sept 14, 2017 20:53:29 GMT -8
poor ol' Westie needs some vocal lessons! but she still sounds great, I think. not quite as melodic as the 'Nan or the 'Van but still pretty nice. speaking of - I heard from some other ferry fans at the Nanaimo's decommissioning that both her own and the Vancouver's Airchimes have been saved. can anyone confirm this? -qod Yes I can confirm that the Nanaimos Airchimes have been saved. As for the Vancouvers I do not know. Yes, Confirmation the Queen of Nanaimo's Horns have been saved. They are destined for Salt Spring Island, as she spent her last 30 years based from there. There was a notion to keep her unique sound alive in the gulf islands.
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Post by queenofdelta on Sept 15, 2017 16:16:42 GMT -8
Yes I can confirm that the Nanaimos Airchimes have been saved. As for the Vancouvers I do not know. Yes, Confirmation the Queen of Nanaimo's Horns have been saved. They are destined for Salt Spring Island, as she spent her last 30 years based from there. There was a notion to keep her unique sound alive in the gulf islands. oh, thank goodness. any ideas what they'll be used for? I'm assuming a noon whistle or something. I hope they try to keep them maintained well! long live the 'Nan. -qod
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Post by nannyman on Sept 15, 2017 20:15:46 GMT -8
Yes, Confirmation the Queen of Nanaimo's Horns have been saved. They are destined for Salt Spring Island, as she spent her last 30 years based from there. There was a notion to keep her unique sound alive in the gulf islands. oh, thank goodness. any ideas what they'll be used for? I'm assuming a noon whistle or something. I hope they try to keep them maintained well! long live the 'Nan. -qod Not yet, still to be determined I believe The Airchime KM's are air hogs.
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Post by queenofdelta on Sept 18, 2017 17:29:47 GMT -8
just back on the subject of the Queen of New Westminster's Airchimes - has anybody else noticed how weird her whistle has been over the years? it's had so many different sounds to it, it just doesn't make sense!
for example, back in '09, only the #1 and #2 tones were working, but the #1 was overblowing way too loudly and slid up by a half step as it sounded:
by 2013, the #1 had stopped sliding, but the #3 was still silent:
(skip to 0:26) sometime between 2013 and 2014, her #3 tone magically started working again, but both it and the #2 had gone up in pitch, and the #1 tone lagged behind by almost nine seconds (it finally comes in at 0:33):
by 2015, everything seemed to be back to normal, but the #1 was up to its pitch-sliding tricks again:
and now in 2017, she's gone back to her old ways, with the #1 overblowing again, and the #3 barely audible (see Flugel Horn's post from September 2nd).
just... i don't even. what gives, westie?
-qod
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Post by chinook2 on Sept 18, 2017 19:22:23 GMT -8
Have thought for some time, since the spooks entered service, something is missing..... why not install the salvaged airchimes on the spirits?? (after both horns and ships have been refitted)?
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Post by nannyman on Sept 19, 2017 5:51:42 GMT -8
RE Queen of New Westminster Airchimes. - Usually when an Airchime changes tune it may be cause the re-stricter valve in slightly plugged or the internal diaphragm disc may be cracked. Replacing the diaphragm disc may be tricky, because one could risk altering the actual sound that may have been tuned in originally.
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Post by queenofdelta on Sept 19, 2017 9:34:39 GMT -8
RE Queen of New Westminster Airchimes. - Usually when an Airchime changes tune it may be cause the re-stricter valve in slightly plugged or the internal diaphragm disc may be cracked. Replacing the diaphragm disc may be tricky, because one could risk altering the actual sound that may have been tuned in originally. gosh, so it's possible that there's some serious problems with the old girl's voice, huh... don't the Airchime KM horns use the same power chamber and diaphragm parts as their land-borne railway equivalents? I seem to remember reading about that somewhere, but I could be mistaken. with K horns being designed the way they are, I don't believe one could change the pitch by putting in a new diaphragm, as long as it's to Airchime OEM specs. I once worked on a K3 locomotive whistle; we replaced the diaphragms and she sounded good as new. again, though, that's the railway version - I don't know if the marine version is different. -qod
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Post by nannyman on Sept 19, 2017 21:19:34 GMT -8
RE Queen of New Westminster Airchimes. - Usually when an Airchime changes tune it may be cause the re-stricter valve in slightly plugged or the internal diaphragm disc may be cracked. Replacing the diaphragm disc may be tricky, because one could risk altering the actual sound that may have been tuned in originally. gosh, so it's possible that there's some serious problems with the old girl's voice, huh... don't the Airchime KM horns use the same power chamber and diaphragm parts as their land-borne railway equivalents? I seem to remember reading about that somewhere, but I could be mistaken. with K horns being designed the way they are, I don't believe one could change the pitch by putting in a new diaphragm, as long as it's to Airchime OEM specs. I once worked on a K3 locomotive whistle; we replaced the diaphragms and she sounded good as new. again, though, that's the railway version - I don't know if the marine version is different. -qod Do know the KM Series (Kahlenberg) today definitely differs from AirChimes of the 60's. Back then they used a 1/2" Inlet compared to a 3/4" inlet today. Also back then they had options of 5 different sized restrictors compared to one size today. They still utilize two diaphragm discs. The railway line was licensed to Nathan years ago - not sure if design changes took place over the years. Definitely a bigger diaphragm cap and head on the KM series than their Railway K series counterpart. .
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Post by queenofdelta on Sept 19, 2017 22:26:00 GMT -8
gosh, so it's possible that there's some serious problems with the old girl's voice, huh... don't the Airchime KM horns use the same power chamber and diaphragm parts as their land-borne railway equivalents? I seem to remember reading about that somewhere, but I could be mistaken. with K horns being designed the way they are, I don't believe one could change the pitch by putting in a new diaphragm, as long as it's to Airchime OEM specs. I once worked on a K3 locomotive whistle; we replaced the diaphragms and she sounded good as new. again, though, that's the railway version - I don't know if the marine version is different. -qod Do know the KM Series (Kahlenberg) today definitely differs from AirChimes of the 60's. Back then they used a 1/2" Inlet compared to a 3/4" inlet today. Also back then they had options of 5 different sized restrictors compared to one size today. They still utilize two diaphragm discs. The railway line was licensed to Nathan years ago - not sure if design changes took place over the years. Definitely a bigger diaphragm cap and head on the KM series than their Railway K series counterpart. (image) (image) wow, that's actually some good info to know. thanks! you wouldn't happen to know the numbers of the V-class horns, would you? the KM-xxx number, I mean. just curious so Kahlenberg makes the KM horns today? ha, so it's their fault that the Super Cs sound so weird. back on track (back on course? I'm sorry) I guess we just have to hope ol' Westie gets some whistle TLC soon, huh? -qod
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