Wild storm video of ferry

[Low Light Mike]

This is from YouTube, and it says that its the MV Caribou, for Marine-Atlantic's service between Nova Scotia & Newfoundland.



If you're sceptical (like I was) that this is actually a Marine-Atlantic ferry, check the vessel profile picture on their website, here: www.marine-atlantic.ca/en/company/caribou.shtml .....I don't think this YouTube ship is the MV Caribou.

I paused the YouTube many times, to compare any distinguising features to the 4 ships shown on the Marine Atlantic website.

MV Leif Ericson comes closest, because of the single-rear funnel. But the bow-end portholes are different. And MV Leif Ericson (ex Stena Challenger) has that massive new-Stena-style front superstructure "big box".......and the YouTube ship lacks that.

Also, the YouTube video ship is missing the gold-stripe that MA ferries have, just above the blue-hull paint.

So, what do you think? Any ideas on which ship this might be...somewhere in the world??

In any case, it's a wild ride..........

[yvr]

Wild ride is an under statement Flugel. Having personally sailed from Port aux Basques Newfoundland on a day somewhat similar, I feel for the folks aboard that vessel. To keep vehicles in place they chain them down prior to departure. During the voyage I went to the car deck. Vehicles were bouncing around big time on their suspensions. yet the wheels did not move. It seemed very strange. The worst part was I eventually lost breakfast. Thank goodness, as we approached Sydney N.S. the wind fell off, making for a little better ride.

[Koastal Karl]

All I have to say is, they shouldent of been sailing in rough weather like that. That is rediculas to be out in weather like that!

[Political Incorrectness]

I have to agree with yvr, that isn't a wild ride, that is one hell of a ride.

[Scott]

I agree with Mike. It's not the Cariboo, and I don't think it's even Marine Atlantic.

I wondered if it could be another ferry in the area and that the photographer may have been confused, but I don't recognize that (blurry) logo as any on the east coast of Canada. One problem is that there are so few photos of the eastern ferries and the websites of the operators are quite pathetic compared to BC Ferries. I can't even find a page with photos of the Newfoundland government ferries or the Quebec ferries.

[Northern Exploration]

I don't think many people kept their breakfasts down on that ride. The late night bus service here (when the subway closes for the night) on Yonge Steet is called the Vomit Comit for all the partiers that take it. I would think that would be a good name for that trip. Probably too rough to even walk around much. The worst trip I have had was on the Queen of the North crossing Queen Charlotte Sound. It wasn't nearly that bad but walking was still a challenge. You had to time your movements outside or you got soaked from the spray when the ship hit a large wave.

[Low Light Mike]

YouTube now has same video, listed as "Wellington, New Zealand".



Who knows why that other link to same footage said it was MV Caribou.............

[Neil]

Just making a check of the ferries that sail between the north and south islands of New Zealand, and the vessel in that video doesn't look like any of them, either. Hard to believe it would have ever sailed with passengers in those conditions.

[Low Light Mike]

www.metservice.com/default/index.php?static=2001summer3

Above is a link to a weather service website. The ship is apparantly the "Suliven", a ferry in the Cook Strait, in NZ.

[D'Elete BC in NJ]

Some info about the "Suliven" can be found at:

www.simplonpc.co.uk/Calmac_Suilven.html#anchor74048

It's interesting to note that this ship was originally contracted for build by a Norwegian company and was to be named the "Basto VI". I'm not sure of the significance of this; it would be interesting to know if this ship was to be a fleet-mate of the Queen of Chilliwack before being sold to the Caledonian-MacBrayne line.

[D'Elete BC in NJ]

Wrong board, but in sync with the topic :

Here's a youtube video showing another ferry passage in nasty weather in Cook Straight.



It's short but here is another youtube video along the same vein from northern Scotland.

[Doug]

I can't believe this, but Friday's Province has a whole article on this blunder.

[Low Light Mike]

dougubell said:

I can't believe this, but Friday's Province has a whole article on this blunder.

.....on the YouTube mistaken identity ??

[Doug]

flugelhorn said:

dougubell said:

I can't believe this, but Friday's Province has a whole article on this blunder.

.....on the YouTube mistaken identity ??

Yep. I'll try and find it on Canada.com.

[Doug]

Well, I can't seem to find it. But if you still have Friday's Province around, it is on page A26. It's national news, so I think the clip was used back east on the news for a storm. It was taken off YouTube, with the belief that it was actually a Marine Atlantic vessel....

[Low Light Mike]

So this is an example of a YouTube error fooling the "mainstream" media.

too funny....

[Kam]

Apparently, she's the MV SUILVEN exiting Cook Strait in New Zealand in Feb. 2002.

www.simplonpc.co.uk/Calmac_Suilven.html#anchor74048

www.metservice.com/default/index.php?static=2001summer3

She's now in service in Fiji:

suilvenfiji.com/

[Low Light Mike]

Here's a news story that's related to this wild storm ride:
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www.stuff.co.nz:80/4175765a11.html

New rules for ferries after horror crossing
By PAUL EASTON - The Dominion Post | Friday, 24 August 2007


Maritime New Zealand has demanded an overhaul of the way Cook Strait ferries operate in heavy weather, after a horrific sailing that damaged railway wagons, smashed cars and injured passengers.

Maritime NZ made 14 safety recommendations after the Aratere's gruelling journey between Wellington and Picton on March 3 last year.

The ferry, with 391 people on board, was hit by waves of up to 14 metres.

It twice slewed violently and heeled over an estimated 50 degrees.

Experienced crew thought the ship was about to capsize, according to a Maritime NZ report made public yesterday.

The recommended measures include random checks on the competence of ship masters, a review of the decision-making regarding whether ferries should sail, and a new cargo-lashing system on the Aratere.

Maritime NZ director Catherine Taylor said the recommendations were all now in place.

The final report watered down references from investigators to the ship almost capsizing, which had appeared in a draft version that was leaked to The Dominion Post in November. That said the Aratere came "extremely close to capsizing".

"If more cargo had shifted and/or downflooding had occurred, she would have done so."

Those lines were removed, and replaced by: "It is not possible to describe or precisely quantify with mathematical precision the margin of safety when Aratere sheered and rolled heavily."

The title of the draft report was Incident Investigation - Near Capsize. That became in the final report, Incident Report - Heavy Weather/Cargo Shift.

The general manager of maritime operations at Maritime NZ, John Mansell, said the draft was changed after investigators did further analysis and talked to international experts.

"The draft was always a working draft. It's unfortunate it was leaked."

The report had also taken into account recommendations by operators Toll.

Ms Taylor said technical evidence "appears to conflict with reports the ship was in serious danger".

"This was still a very serious incident which was understandably very upsetting and uncomfortable for many on board."

Another report, by the Transport Accident Investigation Commission, also found the Aratere had not been in danger.

Investigator Captain Iain Hill said the rolls "would not have been pleasant" for passengers or crew.

Aratere passenger Kevin Harrington was on the starboard (right) side as the Aratere lurched over.

"I remember thinking that water looks awfully close to the porthole; it only seemed inches away. I know it must have been further, but that's what it seemed like."

But he never thought the ship was going to go over.

Interislander group general manager Seamus O'Sullivan said it had reviewed its operations.

The Aratere's ordeal began at 4.44pm when it was hit by a wave estimated to be 14 metres high.

The ship sheered to port (left) and rolled 50 degrees to starboard, crew members reported. Several rail wagons were toppled by the roll.

By 5.05pm the master, Captain Wayne Osmond, was worried by how close the Aratere was to Cape Terawhiti.

He turned to port, but the move stalled the ship, leaving it rolling heavily for three minutes.

At 5.39pm the Aratere rolled to starboard again, tipping more wagons over, and causing a six-degree list.

When the Aratere limped into Picton at 10.26pm, the crossing had taken seven hours and thirty minutes, 4½ hours longer than usual.

Four passengers and a crew member were injured. Six rail wagons and their contents, 32 private cars and 15 other vehicles were damaged.

[Lesley]

flugelhorn said:

This is from YouTube, and it says that its the MV Caribou, for Marine-Atlantic's service between Nova Scotia & Newfoundland.



If you're sceptical (like I was) that this is actually a Marine-Atlantic ferry, check the vessel profile picture on their website, here: www.marine-atlantic.ca/en/company/caribou.shtml .....I don't think this YouTube ship is the MV Caribou.

I paused the YouTube many times, to compare any distinguising features to the 4 ships shown on the Marine Atlantic website.

This posting may explain it:

www.spareroom.co.nz/2007/02/08/youtube-of-nz-ferry-misrepresented-on-canadian-tv/

**Moderator EDIT** - Edited to remove reply from quote.

[Chris H]

Being from out east and travelling home to NL every year for the past 19, I can say without a doubt that the video on youtube DEFINATELY is not in Marine Atlantic's fleet. The stills that are shot of the other ferry is either the MV Caribou, or her sister ship, the Joseph and Clara Smallwood. Working on the water for as long as I have, I must say that the best fun you will ever have (providing you do not get seasick) is riding the greenies in a good storm.

[Neil]

Check out the sea conditions that this Greek vessel unloaded and loaded in. It's amazing they were allowed to operate, as it looks like the sort of weather where a rogue wave could easily have washed over the dock and carried people off.

[ferryfanyvr]

When I was in Greece I was shocked to see that this is the way their ferries are routinely loaded and unloaded. The ferry backs up to what is basically a slab of concrete, drops a ramp, and passengers and vehicles race off and on with what seems like no sense of order. It's even more unbelievable seeing it happen when the seas are that rough! Great video!