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Post by Starsteward on Dec 29, 2014 10:23:38 GMT -8
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30624086Sounds like it has gone up to 8 now. It will be interesting to hear what happened. Maybe we tend to think of eastern Europe as having older ships and fewer regulations. At least myself, I think, that probably wouldn't happen here. But this was a fairly new ship (2009) with sister ships being used in other parts of Europe, and it wasn't very far from land... so what happened there probably could happen here. Heartening to hear that the rescue has been completed, leaving many questions unanswered to this point. If the ferry can be towed into a port, investigators will be looking for and hopefully finding where the fire started and why. Given that initial reports say the fire started on the car deck, I find it curious as to why there were no explosions. (at least none reported so far). With the number of cars and transport trucks on board one might assume that gas tanks would eventually catch fire. The preponderance of heavy black smoke suggests that rubber, grease or oil were the main fuels feeding this fire. Being a ship of fairly new vintage, one might ask what fire suppression systems were available and did they function as required? While any loss of life is lamentable, given the amount of smoke prevalent in this incident (which kills more people than actual 'fire'), huge kudos go out to the Italian navy for their heroic efforts at keeping the fatality toll to eight. Perhaps this latest marine incident will act as a reminder to all of us when we travel on boats and planes to take that extra few moment to make ourselves aware of the posted evacuation procedures and where exit routes are actually located?
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Post by SS San Mateo on Dec 30, 2014 12:49:17 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Apr 23, 2017 10:42:43 GMT -8
A rather alarming accident yesterday in the Canary Islands, caused by an electrical failure.
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Post by mybidness459 on Nov 14, 2017 14:17:07 GMT -8
Wow, Much watch, HORN Action,
Check out how this ex Ferry, mv Osten Spirit made her Grand Arrival at the Ship Breaker Yard in Turkey. Now this is How a ship should make her final Landing, and I do mean LANDING.
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Post by John H on Nov 14, 2017 21:28:31 GMT -8
Wow, Much watch, HORN Action, Check out how this Turkish Ferry, mv Osten Spirit made her Grand Arrival at the Ship Breaker Yard in Turkey. Now this is How a ship should make her final Landing, and I do mean LANDING. Reminds me of the Spirit of British Columbia, has similar specs and only 6 years older. I'm thinking the SOBC will be around for many years to come. Seems like we have a different "idea" in this part of the world on what constitutes an old ferry.
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Post by Nick on Nov 14, 2017 22:05:15 GMT -8
Wow, Much watch, HORN Action, Check out how this Turkish Ferry, mv Osten Spirit made her Grand Arrival at the Ship Breaker Yard in Turkey. Now this is How a ship should make her final Landing, and I do mean LANDING. Reminds me of the Spirit of British Columbia, has similar specs and only 6 years older. I'm thinking the SOBC will be around for many years to come. Seems like we have a different "idea" in this part of the world on what constitutes an old ferry. We also have much different maintenance and inspection standards in this part of the world. There's a reason we can keep ships operating safely for 40-50 years.
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Post by John H on Dec 21, 2017 8:38:40 GMT -8
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Post by paulvanb on Jun 6, 2019 21:51:55 GMT -8
Found this site tonight while poking around the web:
I was going to see if I could ride the sister of the Queen of Chilliwack while in Messina next month, but it appears she was last reported that she is somewhere in Russia.
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Post by paulvanb on Aug 7, 2019 18:25:20 GMT -8
Just got back from Europe this afternoon. I have been posting photos as I have been going along until Venice. As posted, I got to ride the Greek ferry to and from Argostoli, Greece. I didn't get a chance to ride anything in Messina because we met up with my wife's cousins. We are going to take the ferry to Corsica and back from Sardinia until we saw the prices! A round trip ticket on Moby Lines was going to going to cost in excess of 50 euros round trip of about 50 minutes. We chose not to go. Grimaldi advertises their ferries on many of the main roads. While we were travelling I did see the Moby DC Comic ships.
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Post by timmyc on Sept 1, 2019 23:13:57 GMT -8
Imagine being so displeased with your replacement vessel that you reenact the siege of Constantinople by stretching a rope across the breakwater to prevent your ferry from leaving: local.fo/nolsoy-capture-of-passenger-ship-turns-into-5-hour-long-hostage-situation/Faroese villagers prevent ferry from leaving, ferry crew retaliates by preventing passengers from disembarking for five hours. Can you imagine any community in, say, BC coming together to express such displeasure at a vessel swap?
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Post by Thor's Echo on Jan 4, 2020 15:44:10 GMT -8
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Post by Kam on Jan 4, 2020 17:27:11 GMT -8
Oh my.. That is spectacularly hideous..
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Post by Thor's Echo on Jan 5, 2020 13:18:05 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 5, 2020 13:49:31 GMT -8
Here's the text below picture. It doesn't impact me much.
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Post by Thor's Echo on Jan 5, 2020 14:14:25 GMT -8
See the BIG text below the picture 🙂👍
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Post by Neil on Jan 5, 2020 22:48:04 GMT -8
Oh my.. That is spectacularly hideous.. Really? Is it any worse than the Coastals? I don't think so. Wow... that is big. Taking into account that the average European vehicle is smaller than here, I wonder what the capacity will be.
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Post by Kahloke on Jan 6, 2020 5:58:30 GMT -8
Taking into account that the average European vehicle is smaller than here, I wonder what the capacity will be. I'm curious about that, too, though I've noticed European ferry operators tend to list their capacity by lane metres, not specific numbers of vehicles. I am guessing most of the vehicle traffic going between Dover and Calais is commercial these days; lorries and such. Those ferries can take lorries on both the upper and lower decks. I've seen videos of big commercial rigs driving up the shoreside ramp to the upper vehicle deck on those big P&O boats. I would tend to think that regular passenger cars aren't a big factor anymore with the channel tunnel. Why take the ferry when you can load your car onto a train and be across the channel in a fraction of the time the ferry would take? Even coach busses go on the train, so outside of maybe wanting a ferry experience, or someone who perhaps doesn't like going through tunnels, most of the ferry traffic is probably commercial truckers, and that would explain why they can design a vessel with greater vehicle lane capacity and reduced passenger cabin space.
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 6, 2020 9:31:09 GMT -8
Oh my.. That is spectacularly hideous.. Really? Is it any worse than the Coastals? I don't think so. I agree with you Neil. These huge double-enders for the English Channel are no more 'hideous' (or for that matter, attractive) than our not so big double-enders. What I find is that after the passage of time what looked 'strange' in the beginning, begins to look normal ...
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Post by Kam on Jan 6, 2020 12:11:11 GMT -8
Really? Is it any worse than the Coastals? I don't think so. I agree with you Neil. These huge double-enders for the English Channel are no more 'hideous' (or for that matter, attractive) than our not so big double-enders. What I find is that after the passage of time what looked 'strange' in the beginning, begins to look normal ... Personal preference I suppose I actually like the look of the coastals
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Post by paulvanb on Aug 21, 2020 22:08:45 GMT -8
We aren't the only jurisdiction getting hammered by covidd-19.
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Post by Neil on Mar 5, 2021 11:42:02 GMT -8
We aren't the only jurisdiction getting hammered by covidd-19.
I was just looking up ferries in the Faroe Islands, and of course, had to click 'translate', from Danish to English. There was a question about accepting cookies, and the two options to choose were "I kind of feel compelled" or "I accept beer". I clicked "I accept beer", but I bet they won't send me any.
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Post by paulvanb on Mar 5, 2021 14:40:47 GMT -8
We aren't the only jurisdiction getting hammered by covidd-19.
I was just looking up ferries in the Faroe Islands, and of course, had to click 'translate', from Danish to English. There was a question about accepting cookies, and the two options to choose were "I kind of feel compelled" or "I accept beer". I clicked "I accept beer", but I bet they won't send me any.
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Post by hwy19man on Mar 17, 2022 14:55:49 GMT -8
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Post by Kahloke on Mar 17, 2022 15:27:08 GMT -8
Wow! that is shocking, to say the least. It's most especially shocking to those 800 people they just sacked. P&O isn't exactly a small operation, either. Here's a BBC article on the same thing: www.bbc.com/news/business-60779001
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Post by paulvanb on Mar 17, 2022 20:38:46 GMT -8
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