Boy am I happy our ferries don't spew out fumes like these European ones! They gotta quit that nicotine habit, and fast! According to the website, it's actually the fuel they're putting into them. hhvferry.com/blog/?p=2611
Post by northwesterner on Aug 6, 2010 21:48:07 GMT -8
Mike -
Nice shots of the Dover ferries...
I've been to Europe a few times, but only to England once, and I came and went by plane, so I've never done the chunnel nor the more traditional ferry crossing.
I would love to do some of those ferries over there! Some of them look kinda wierd though! Not as good looking as our ships!
Karl -
Lots of fugly ferries around Europe, but also many older beauties still sailing the mediterranean...
I sailed from Croatia to Italy on the Ancona in 2006, and on Blue Line's other ferry (now retired, and replaced by a slightly newer and larger ferry of Finnish heritage) Split 1700 in 2009.
Looks like she may be forced into retirement this year due to Solas2010 regs:
Although, I already know the objections that would prevent it... Looks like too many separate lounge spaces, which would equal higher crew counts, for one. The visors are a moot point, as they could be added or deleted to a design with no real ill effects. Still... it looks like a highly versatile and interchangeable design able to fit a variety of intermediate routes.
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Post by bergenships on Dec 1, 2010 16:22:14 GMT -8
On Folgefonn is usually 1-2 on deck .. People know how to drive on board and where they should be .. Ramps on the side is often tight in these ferries. people dont like to drive on them.. Newer ferries of this type has a ramp on one side with two fields and three fields on the main deck ..
Her is a picture of the deck on Folgefonn.. Folgefonn takes 75 cars..
Last Edit: Dec 1, 2010 16:22:55 GMT -8 by bergenships
That`s perfect! We finally found a forum name for Flugel that is actually the name of a ferry, and doesn`t take away from the sound of his current handle.
Thanks for showing the deck photos. I didn`t notice the fixed ramps at first. That`s a very effective use of space, by having them run up over the passenger lounges. They should do that with Quinsam and Quinitsa. But it makes the ship look very narrow from on deck.
Last Edit: Dec 1, 2010 16:40:03 GMT -8 by Mill Bay
On Folgefonn is usually 1-2 on deck .. People know how to drive on board and where they should be .. Ramps on the side is often tight in these ferries. people dont like to drive on them.. Newer ferries of this type has a ramp on one side with two fields and three fields on the main deck ..
Forgive my ignorance, but why put the cars above the passenger space? Why not have a level full width deck with passenger space above? The configuration above would have to have the elevated car deck engineered to hold the weight of the cars above the passenger areas.... This just seems a little backwards to me...
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On Folgefonn is usually 1-2 on deck .. People know how to drive on board and where they should be .. Ramps on the side is often tight in these ferries. people dont like to drive on them.. Newer ferries of this type has a ramp on one side with two fields and three fields on the main deck ..
Forgive my ignorance, but why put the cars above the passenger space? Why not have a level full width deck with passenger space above? The configuration above would have to have the elevated car deck engineered to hold the weight of the cars above the passenger areas.... This just seems a little backwards to me...
Seems a little strange doesn't it? But if you think about it, this is probably the way to go if you want to save money and make a lighter, more efficient ship.
To have 5 lanes across and passenger accommodation above would require stairs and an elevator. It wouldn't make sense having two sets of stairs/elevators so that would require a central bulkhead, partially taking away one lane on the boat. Then the passenger areas would have to be raised high enough all the way across to allow for trucks. You're basically looking at the Queen of Capilano, Queen of Cumberland, and Island Sky as the alternative to this. In my opinion, the BC Ferries are probably more comfortable and roomy for passengers, but I bet they cost a lot more to build and are more expensive to operate.
John H is right.. There Folgefonn is crossing it takes about 10 minutes. Then there will be no need for large lounge over the cardeck.. The price of the ferry is also much cheaper when they are built in this way .. I do not like this type of ferries. Like they have a salon of the car deck ..
Great video! Thanks for sharing your ferries with us, and definitely keep the photos and videos coming. I've been "Google-Earthing" Norway lately, and in particular, zooming into some of your coastal ferry routes. That is most certainly a place I want to visit someday.
Here is a movie I shot with my cell phone. To the right is Jondal ferry that takes 36 cars and left is Raunefjord taking 212 cars ..
Wow! Those bad boys sure seem close to each other when coming into dock. Maybe it's just the perception from the video, but I don't think we'd see two ships (especially one that holds over 200 cars) that close together in a bay while both moving.
1,059 cars and 180 lorries, but only 1750 passengers?
Did I miss something here? I did route when I was 6 and 11; so what do I know.
I don't know anything either, but my guess is the Dover-Calais ferries cater mostly to commercial traffic, and perhaps recreational-type vehicles - basically anything larger than your standard car size. I would think the majority of the traveling public use the trains going through the Channel Tunnel. That might be one explanation as to why they have a large vehicle capacity, but not so large passenger capacity, on these ferries.
and 1,059 cars and 180 lorries, but only 1750 passengers? 
