Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on Apr 23, 2008 14:47:44 GMT -8
Well I mentioned this before seeing the Queen of Tsawwassen will be on route 9 for about a month begining May 4th. I am thinking about taking a day trip over to Galiano to photograph her from Bellhouse Park and the Bluffs seeing I havent seen her from there when she has been on route 9.
I think for anyone who is interested in going and for the mainlanders a Sunday schedule would be the best.
Departing Tsawwassen at 11:10am and arriving on Galiano around 12:05pm.
Departing Galiano at 5:05pm and arriving back at Tsawwassen at 6pm.
For the islanders 9:35am sailing to Galiano from Swartz Bay arriving at 11:10am
Departing either 4:40pm from Galiano arriving at Swartz Bay at 6:10pm or 8:35pm arriving at 9:55pm.
I think it would be easier for the islanders to take vehicles over than the mainlanders as from Tsawwassen you need reservations definately with the Tsawwassen on the route and it is more expensive too so I would probably drive over from Swartz Bay.
This would be a separate trip in addition to the trip on May 4th which I will also be doing.
This will probably be the last time seeing the Tsawwassen on route 9 so we should take advantage and do a trip over to Galiano.
Now the date, which date works best?? Sunday's the 11th 18th or 25th of this month?? Saturdays could work with advance notice but it is earlier departure for the mainlanders. What does everyone think? Who is interested??
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Nick
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Post by Nick on Apr 23, 2008 15:25:22 GMT -8
I'm interested!! I would also drive over if necessary.
The weekend 10-11 works best for me. Saturday would be best, since Sunday is Mother's Day and such so I don't know if I could get away very easily.
It looks as though the 24-25 is open as well.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Apr 23, 2008 15:56:11 GMT -8
24-25 is the best for me, I just need to make some arrangements ahead of time.
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Post by Mike C on Apr 23, 2008 19:31:32 GMT -8
Either the 10-11 weekend of 24-25 weekend would be great.
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pscurr
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Post by pscurr on Apr 23, 2008 19:45:56 GMT -8
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Post by Esquimalt Queen on Apr 26, 2008 5:52:38 GMT -8
I'm am definitely interested in this!
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Kam
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Post by Kam on Apr 27, 2008 20:23:06 GMT -8
I'm am definitely interested in this! Just talked to Tanya and if we can make it the end of the month we can do it! Sounds like good times ;D
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Mill Bay
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Post by Mill Bay on Apr 27, 2008 20:33:46 GMT -8
I would be up for this as well, but the end of the month is looking better for me. It's just that I wanna try and space out these trips a little, especially the ones that happen on a sunday. Although the V-Class farewell trips I can do as long as it's a later afternoon sailing, like the 4pm one on the Van . So, shoot for the 24-25 and maybe fill in the in between weekends with some V-Class trips.
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Post by Mac Write on May 5, 2008 21:25:12 GMT -8
I am up for the trip as long as someone is driving as due to my CP I have trouble standing for more then a few minutes and walking distances (lesson learned there are benches for viewing the ferries with a easy path to walk on at bellhouse park, and I have sun block so I stay white as a piece of paper.
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Post by Balfour on May 5, 2008 21:30:03 GMT -8
May long weekend of the 24-25 weekend works for me.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 6, 2008 4:23:20 GMT -8
Here's a reminder, re a forum rule for group-trips: As a member of the traveling public, members must act appropriately. Any member acting in an inappropriate manner may not be eligible for participation in future group trips.If anyone is unable or unwilling to comply with this, or isn't sure what is meant by "acting appropriately", please ask. If you're unable to act appropriately in public in a group setting, then please consider excusing yourself from the trip. This is for the benefit of the other members enjoyment of the trip, and the general traveling public's rights to a peaceful trip.
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Post by Mike C on May 6, 2008 12:14:05 GMT -8
Here's a reminder, re a forum rule for group-trips: As a member of the traveling public, members must act appropriately. Any member acting in an inappropriate manner may not be eligible for participation in future group trips.If anyone is unable or unwilling to comply with this, or isn't sure what is meant by "acting appropriately", please ask. If you're unable to act appropriately in public in a group setting, then please consider excusing yourself from the trip. This is for the benefit of the other members enjoyment of the trip, and the general traveling public's rights to a peaceful trip. The people who don't act appropriatley are excluded from a group venture to the SeaWest lounge. The inappropriate member will be exiled to Deck 2 for the remainder of the trip. Oh, and yeah, you'll be banned.
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Neil
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Post by Neil on May 26, 2008 15:29:21 GMT -8
I'm curious as to how this trip came about. The above posts, most recently May 6, don't mention a day being settled on. Were the arrangements made 'off forum'?
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 26, 2008 16:22:39 GMT -8
I'm curious as to how this trip came about. The above posts, most recently May 6, don't mention a day being settled on. Were the arrangements made 'off forum'? "Arranged off-forum" is correct. Yes, from reading this here thread, it does look like there was a time-warp, or something happened magically. I think that the trip's participants were concerned with public-behaviour issues on the trip, and so they wanted to ensure that all who participated would be willing and able to act/behave maturely in public. I guess that a world-wide-(web) openly discussed trip will sometimes attract people who don't have the same public-behaviour standards as we think should be the norm. And when you're having a private-trip in a public-place, it can be tricky to deal with situations where someone is tagging-along and isn't welcome. All that being said, the usual expected-standard of public-behaviour in a group-dynamic is surprisingly typical of what most of us were taught in kindergarten. If you have the self-control to practice what you were taught in kindergarten, then you probably have the ability to "fit in" on a group trip. But we've learned that not everyone in the world (or even on a ferry forum such as ours) has that ability for self-control. So of necessity from past experience, some of these trip-planning discussions are taken "off-forum". If people are interested in participating in these kinds of group trips, and would like to somehow be part of planning discussions for such a trip, I'd suggest that they send a PM (personal message) to one of the forum moderators who seem to be participating in these types of trips. These moderators could then tell you more about what the trip expectation and details are. ......wow, all that sounded really clinical. And I suppose that illustrates the point, that when doing a group-trip, no one wants to have to play the role of police or counselor or case-worker. ;D
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Post by Alex on May 26, 2008 18:35:30 GMT -8
Hm, this kinda sucks...I didn't really hear about this trip. I would have liked to have come.
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Post by Mac Write on May 26, 2008 19:03:27 GMT -8
Same with me, especially since the QoT May Route 9 trip was so enjoyable.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 26, 2008 19:29:53 GMT -8
Same with me, especially since the QoT May Route 9 trip was so enjoyable. Speaking just for myself, if I were doing a trip, I would not be welcoming you to join me. Reason: Our ideas of "enjoyable" are too different. I prefer quiet and calm, and you appear to be the opposite. I don't have any confidence in your ability to fit into "my style" of ferry-fan trip. Of course, I also don't have any confidence in my own ability or desire to fit into your style of a trip. So on a trip that's intended to be leisure, I'd have no qualms in clearly expressing that I wouldn't want you to join me. For me, my leisure time is too scarce for me to risk annoyance and inconvenience. I defend my right to enjoy my leisure time. Sorry for the harshness, but I wanted to clearly express how I feel, and I wanted to get that out into the open.
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Post by Mac Write on May 26, 2008 21:20:45 GMT -8
Lets see it was quiet and calm on the last QoT trip. The we all were very relaxed and enjoyed the trip (beyond the over-crowded ferry from Galiano to Tsawwassen).
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Neil
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Post by Neil on May 26, 2008 21:46:10 GMT -8
Hm, this kinda sucks...I didn't really hear about this trip. I would have liked to have come. Planning trips covertly can send a message to people you aren't really intending the message for. So.. a suggestion. Since forum members are entitled to do outings with exactly who they want to do outings with, it's their right to tell someone, "We're sorry, but we just don't feel comfortable with your presence, and we'll have to ask you not to come on any future trips." The alternative is planning trips off the forum, which could get a bit awkward after a while, and would be somewhat exclusionary to other people who might have thought of coming. (BTW, I'm not speaking personally, in this case, because although I would have enjoyed this trip, I couldn't have made it yesterday.)
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Post by Mac Write on May 27, 2008 0:13:18 GMT -8
Some members on this forum feel my autism which causes me to not notices things is an emberisment to the group like talking loud or not noticing something (though that can be atributed to my vision as well) like talking about killing whales eating another whale on Saltspring (which they considered gore) while around children on the ferry yet, not telling me as I didn't notice. These forum members want 100% perfect people on the group trip and do not tolerate any imperfect people period. This is why the trip was done in secrecy.
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Post by kylefossett on May 27, 2008 4:01:54 GMT -8
Some members on this forum feel my autism which causes me to not notices things is an emberisment to the group like talking loud or not noticing something (though that can be atributed to my vision as well) like talking about killing whales eating another whale on Saltspring (which they considered gore) while around children on the ferry yet, not telling me as I didn't notice. These forum members want 100% perfect people on the group trip and do not tolerate any imperfect people period. This is why the trip was done in secrecy. Mac, this may just show a lack of maturity in some of the group memebers when it comes to this stuff. But for now the trip is said and done with.
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Neil
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Post by Neil on May 27, 2008 9:32:27 GMT -8
Let's not play the intolerance card.
I'm a Jane Austen fan. If I joined a Jane Austen group, and it became apparent that I didn't fit in with the group and I wasn't particularly welcome for whatever reason, I wouldn't force myself on the group simply because we're all interested in Jane Austen. Hobby groups have a right to choose who they enjoy their hobbies with, and if it's not working they should be considerate but firm with the person concerned, and have everybody move on. Mr Horn explained the leisure time concept well, above.
Whether it's a marriage or a ferry fan trip, all parties have to be comfortable with each other, or there's no point.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 27, 2008 9:45:05 GMT -8
I think it's obvious to anyone reading this thread that this trip happened, and that the detail-planning for this trip was kept "under wraps", ie not done on this thread.
I think that it's also obvious re the reason for doing this, re the "group's" desire to exclude Mac Write from taking part. I think that intention has now become clear to all, including Mr. Mac Write himself, and so it's fair to conclude that Mr. Write isn't welcome on these kind of group trips.
It's now clear that a subtle approach to communicating this to Mac Write was not effective, and that Mac has indicated that he needs clear & direct feedback. So I clearly say to Mac Write that "sorry, but the people organizing these group trips prefer that you do not attend as part of the group. Please do not plan on attending any future trips as part of this forum group".
Mac, the core-group that plans and attends these trips is serious about this issue. Please respect this.
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For those others who were offended by this under-wraps planning, and who would have liked to attend (or at least have the opportunity to attend), I say this: "Sorry". I apologize for how this was handled. Our intention was simply to protect our enjoyment of the trip. And this was mainly aimed at excluding 1 member that we believed would have impacted the enjoyment of the trip.
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Post by Alex on May 27, 2008 11:48:13 GMT -8
So to those others who were excluded, Sorry. Now that you know our motivation re this, we ask that you view these actions in light of what our motivation was. No worries dude, I understand. I was just making myself heard so that next time people might remember "oh yeah, Alex might be interested". I'm not offended or anything. I am, however, sorry for digging this up and causing the confrontation that just occured in this thread. That was poorly handled on my part. I didn't realize it would end up this way because of me, and I probably should have just sent someone a personal message about it. Again, I apologize.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 27, 2008 11:52:25 GMT -8
So to those others who were excluded, Sorry. Now that you know our motivation re this, we ask that you view these actions in light of what our motivation was. No worries dude, I understand. I was just making myself heard so that next time people might remember "oh yeah, Alex might be interested". I'm not offended or anything. I am, however, sorry for digging this up and causing the confrontation that just occured in this thread. That was poorly handled on my part. I didn't realize it would end up this way because of me, and I probably should have just sent someone a personal message about it. Again, I apologize. Thanks. But I think it was good to get all that stuff out into the open....so that we can deal with it, and move on. I still haven't met you, so I look forward to seeing you on a group trip, sometime.
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