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Post by Barnacle on Jun 9, 2007 22:12:24 GMT -8
"Touching up" won't do it--the whole boat needs paint. And the difficulties in setting up and taking down equipment night after night, to say nothing of the noise factor in Bainbridge, plus the dew-factor that will make it difficult for the paint to adhere... naw, it flat out won't work.
I'm waiting to see what the contingency plan is if/when the Elwha is late.
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Post by zman on Jun 11, 2007 20:34:42 GMT -8
Seems as if the Walla Walla wants some attention...she was out of service this morning due to "electrical" problems...of course, it was the only time that I ever take the 11:30 from Bremerton. It was one of those times when I was forced to relax for an extra hour.
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Post by Barnacle on Jun 12, 2007 16:24:44 GMT -8
Tough gig. Did you survive? The Rhododendron is off the board today, but I suspect that's being discussed elsewhere.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jun 17, 2007 11:57:19 GMT -8
So is the Kitty ready to return to service as of yet? According to WSF, the Sealths' staint at Vashon is done as of today. I was just wondering if the Kitsap will return to Vashon.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 17, 2007 12:25:47 GMT -8
Whoa whoa whoa, okay, when did the cathlamet return to service?
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Post by FNS on Jun 17, 2007 12:58:44 GMT -8
Whoa whoa whoa, okay, when did the cathlamet return to service? CATHY returned to service June 10 after getting her owie bandaided at an Everett harbor hospital.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 17, 2007 13:26:55 GMT -8
So is the Kitty ready to return to service as of yet? According to WSF, the Sealths' staint at Vashon is done as of today. I was just wondering if the Kitsap will return to Vashon. The Kitty won't be back until next month (probably near the middle). The Sealth will probably remain at Vashon until the Tillikum returns from maintenance. From a service bulletin: The way that was worded gives the impression that the Kitsap would be replacing the Sealth either today or tomorrow, but I don't think that's what they meant.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 19, 2007 10:01:31 GMT -8
WSF has the Issaquah listed along with the Tacoma on their website under the news heading of "Summer Schedule starts on June 24". It says both vessels will be out for major topside painting. I missed that. I didn't even look there (I was looking in the IFB section). The schedule for the work on the Tacoma was changed. It's now 7/9 - 10/12. Work on the Issaquah is scheduled from 7/23 - 10/12. Assuming the Klahowya goes in for drydocking as scheduled, there will be 3 ferries out of service during part of the summer at the same time.
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Post by zman on Jun 19, 2007 17:00:33 GMT -8
Make it 4 if the Elwha is not back
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 2, 2007 18:45:15 GMT -8
Has there been another year recently that so much trouble has befallen WSF in regards to such widespread breakdowns?
This is in no way a knock on WSF or their maintenence programs.
I just don't remember so many boats going out consistently.
I sum it up as an aging fleet and a dire need of 4 new boats asap.
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Post by EGfleet on Jul 3, 2007 5:38:48 GMT -8
Has there been another year recently that so much trouble has befallen WSF in regards to such widespread breakdowns? This is in no way a knock on WSF or their maintenence programs. I just don't remember so many boats going out consistently. I sum it up as an aging fleet and a dire need of 4 new boats asap. Yes...in the late 70's early 1980's after the sudden creation of a new ferry route (Hood Canal) and lack of new boats (the Issaquahs were just coming on line. Come to think of it, by about 1976 WSF was in such serious need of new vessels (the old Wood Electrics were gone at that point, or beyond all hope of being put back into service) they actually seriously considered reactivating the San Mateo.In retrospect, it's a pity they didn't...she likely wouldn't be in the state she is today if they had.
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 4, 2007 17:22:39 GMT -8
Has there been another year recently that so much trouble has befallen WSF in regards to such widespread breakdowns? This is in no way a knock on WSF or their maintenence programs. I just don't remember so many boats going out consistently. I sum it up as an aging fleet and a dire need of 4 new boats asap. 2003 had its quirks as well. They were mostly noticeable if you were in the San Juan Islands--the Sealth kept having trouble with her steering gear, eventually knocking her out of service, and the Chelan was late out of the yard. That put the Evergreen State into "mainland" service up here; no sooner was the Chelan available than the Yakima broke a propeller. The Evergreen was in drydock for bottom paint by then, so the Chelan sat in for the Yakima, the Tillikum came up from Vashon, and the Nisqually got dragged off the beach (so to speak) to run at Vashon for a week--her first since 2001 and her last until this year. The boat move scorecard for 2003 looked a lot like a game of Chutes and Ladders, except nobody was having any fun. The last game of Ferryboat Musical Chairs that was as good as 2003's involved the Hood Canal Bridge and the Vashon. ;D
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 9, 2007 19:51:14 GMT -8
I see that the Tacoma was supposed to go into the yard today but that she is still in service. Because the maintenence schedule is basically "out the window", are they waiting until the Kittitas, Illahee and Quinault are available until any more vessels are removed from service?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 9, 2007 19:53:18 GMT -8
It's all dependent on the Elwha. Bremerton would not survive on a 124 and 90 at the same time. We tried that in 2001 and that went so well, that WSF issued an apology letter.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 22, 2007 7:30:10 GMT -8
Since the Steels are to be rotated for inspections and repairs to their hulls, this must be putting yet another delay in the start of maintenence for the rest of the vessels that are due for service.
Does anyone know if WSF has delayed the scheduled maintenence to the rest of the fleet until the Steels are all back on line?
Could they still rotate the boats out as planned and have service shortages, say, at Pt. Townsend?
Will they wait until Autumn to take the Tacoma and the Issaquah into the yard?
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 23, 2007 7:36:58 GMT -8
Since the Steels are to be rotated for inspections and repairs to their hulls, this must be putting yet another delay in the start of maintenence for the rest of the vessels that are due for service. Does anyone know if WSF has delayed the scheduled maintenence to the rest of the fleet until the Steels are all back on line? Could they still rotate the boats out as planned and have service shortages, say, at Pt. Townsend? Will they wait until Autumn to take the Tacoma and the Issaquah into the yard? There won't be delays for the entire fleet, per se; there's obviously no need to delay the smaller vessels save for the Steel-Electric issue. The Tacoma's still on hold, of course. The Issaquah is supposed to be going to the yard within a day or two, I think. As far as the Steel-Electrics are concerned, I suspect the Illahee will be sent out to Port Townsend to fill in for whichever SE is out next. The Quinault... heck, I have no idea what's up with the Quinault. (Edit!) Oh yes... I sincerely doubt there will be intentional service shortages ANYWHERE unless all other options have been exhausted. "Intentional Service Shortage" is loosely defined as "political suicide." WSF is not scoring many points with the travelling public at the moment and any intentional service cuts would probably bring about Dan's long-awaited revolution. Have we beaten this topic into the ground yet?
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Post by zman on Jul 23, 2007 12:05:47 GMT -8
I dont know who did it, but the notice that mentions summer vessels at Bremerton had the Kaleetan crossed out and the Elwha written with a sharpie. True??
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 23, 2007 12:08:35 GMT -8
WSF is not scoring many points with the travelling public at the moment and any intentional service cuts would probably bring about Dan's long-awaited revolution. LOL, I think someone has been obsessed over the crystal ball too much for his own good. For ferries only not for person predictions.
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 23, 2007 20:41:13 GMT -8
I dont know who did it, but the notice that mentions summer vessels at Bremerton had the Kaleetan crossed out and the Elwha written with a sharpie. True?? Not that I ever saw. It'd make too much sense.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 23, 2007 20:57:07 GMT -8
I dont know who did it, but the notice that mentions summer vessels at Bremerton had the Kaleetan crossed out and the Elwha written with a sharpie. True?? Got a pic of it and which vessel was this on?
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Post by zman on Jul 25, 2007 9:30:23 GMT -8
It's on the Walla Walla...No 1 end I believe
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Aug 10, 2007 18:52:38 GMT -8
Since the Klahowya is scheduled to be out of service soon, and the other vessels are being swapped around this weekend, does anyone know which ferry will be put in her place? My guess is the Sealth.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Aug 10, 2007 19:26:59 GMT -8
Since the Klahowya is scheduled to be out of service soon, and the other vessels are being swapped around this weekend, does anyone know which ferry will be put in her place? My guess is the Sealth. Probably the Evergreen State.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Aug 10, 2007 19:30:15 GMT -8
She will probably be delayed until the Tacoma comes back, cause then what do you do in the Juans?
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Post by SS San Mateo on Aug 10, 2007 22:04:36 GMT -8
She will probably be delayed until the Tacoma comes back, cause then what do you do in the Juans? Either place a steel-electric (assuming there's 3 in service by that time) or the Hiyu up there.
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