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Post by Scott on Aug 3, 2008 22:19:32 GMT -8
www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/08/03/bc-missing-plane.htmlSad news about an airplane carrying six passengers crashing on a mountain on northern Vancouver Island. Good news is that two survived. It does have a marine angle to it as well as it is being reported that the passengers were working for Seaspan International and were heading to a logging camp to load barges.
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Post by Flugel Horn on Aug 4, 2008 5:47:09 GMT -8
I've taken a Pacific Coastal Airlines Grummon Goose twice from Port Hardy, in 2003. It was a great, unique type of aircraft.
Because of my experience flying in the Goose, I was particularly saddened to hear of this crash. I think that PacCoastal has 2 Geese, so there would be 1 remaining. I wonder if the remaining Goose will be grounded?
I'm also curious if the Grummon Goose is similar to the DeHavilland Beaver, in that it's out-of-production, and a working piece of history.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Aug 4, 2008 6:48:52 GMT -8
The Goose is a great piece of aviation history. It has appreciated in value because there are not that many still around. Of course the loss of the 5 people is the biggest tragedy. But the number of aircraft still flying keeps shrinking so the loss of any of the aircraft is important. I have never flown in one and it is on my list of planes I want fly on. The Otter(Twin and Single) and the Beaver rights have been purchased and are going back into production. I think this came up last year and there is a thread somewhere on it. The Otters and others with pontoons are Float Planes, while the aircraft with hulls that actually ride in the water are Flying Boats. The Mallard is a smaller and older sister to the Goose also built by Grumman. The 415 family (215) from Bombardier, one from Russia and one from Japan are the most current examples of flying boats. Cee Bee's are the really small ones. There was one that landed quite frequently in Vancouver harbour when I was young. The front windshield was a door that openned and you could beach the thing and step out the front. Looked almost like an AMC Pacer with wings not the most elegant of aircraft.
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Post by Mirrlees on Aug 4, 2008 22:37:59 GMT -8
I'm also curious if the Grummon Goose is similar to the DeHavilland Beaver, in that it's out-of-production, and a working piece of history Yes they are similar in that they have the same 9 cylinder 450 HP Pratt & Whitney R-985 Wasp Junior engines. These planes are indeed working legends.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Aug 5, 2008 8:53:05 GMT -8
Last night's news said there were fewer than 60 examples left (not all are in flying condition) of the Goose. I remember seeing one fitted out as private aircraft on a TV program about 10 years ago. It may have been a bit on one of the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous type shows. It was expressly fitted out to do day trips on the west coast and could land and nose into a beach or anchor in a cove where an inflatable dingy was used to get to shore. It was often used to explore remote out of the way places and go for picnics in pristine areas. (hello bears if they weren't scared away by the aircraft engines). I don't recall who it was (the owner wasn't shown only the crew) but it sounds like something Paul Allen would do.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 16, 2008 21:19:47 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2008 23:08:59 GMT -8
I was at Langdale tonight, awaiting the ferry and as it docked a CTV and CBC News van each disembarked, the satellite feed rigs, and I wondered why they were coming over. This may be the reason.
I pray for peace for the families of those lost.
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Post by Mike C on Nov 17, 2008 18:00:23 GMT -8
I second what CoastalLink said.
According to Fluge's earlier posts in this thread, he says there are only two Geese in the Pac-Coastal fleet. Was this the demise of the last remaining one?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 17, 2008 18:30:04 GMT -8
I second what CoastalLink said. According to Fluge's earlier posts in this thread, he says there are only two Geese in the Pac-Coastal fleet. Was this the demise of the last remaining one? ooops, I thought there were just 2. But I saw a media report yesterday that said it was either 4 or 6 (before August's crash). Sorry if I misled. (2 is however the number of trips that I've taken on Pacific Coastal's Grummon Geese).
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