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Post by marino on Nov 13, 2018 11:05:18 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Nov 13, 2018 12:41:11 GMT -8
Nice try. With the Campbell/Clark legacy, the very last thing that BC Liberals can pretend is that they're the friends of ferry dependent communities.
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Post by marino on Nov 13, 2018 13:48:35 GMT -8
So who's our Ferry Friends, then?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 13, 2018 14:33:44 GMT -8
So who's our Ferry Friends, then? I don't think that any politician will be a true friend of ferry dependent communities. I think that some will have less of a negative impact than others. I think are ferry friends are the people who work hard to keep the ships running, and who work hard to advocate for change and better service.
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Post by Neil on Nov 13, 2018 14:38:04 GMT -8
So who's our Ferry Friends, then? Well, I would suggest that with the change in government, there's been a distinct change in the direction of BC Ferries. Re-instatement of previously cancelled service, rolling back of fares, and an openness to significant investment going forward, as seen with the plans for Quadra, Gabriola, and other runs. Bottom line accounting seemed to be the only criteria for ferry service with the Liberals. The viability of coastal communities seems to be more of a consideration with the present government.
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Post by marino on Nov 13, 2018 15:49:59 GMT -8
Thank you for your kind replies, but this thread is named, "Possible Nanaimo passenger ferry - Island Ferry Services Ltd."
What other candidate is supporting this much needed, Nanaimo/ Vancouver passenger foot ferry? The Mid-Isle does need this.
We moved to Nanaimo (2004) dependent on the HarbourLynx, and are anxious for such a great service to be in place again.
Anyone have any promising information?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 13, 2018 16:41:20 GMT -8
We moved to Nanaimo (2004) dependent on the HarbourLynx, and are anxious for such a great service to be in place again. Anyone have any promising information? I also live in Nanaimo, and I try to follow the possible-foot-ferry story as closely as I can. I've heard nothing lately, either in news or from local government regarding a status update. The new Nanaimo city council can be seen as a "Green Council" (political leaning, not just the lack of council experience), and so I'd think that a non-vehicle ferry would be something that the new council would support and advocate for. The Port of Nanaimo just underwent a change of leadership (CEO position) and I'm not sure how that might impact the timeline of the passenger ferry. I do think that the "Big City Connector Ferry" idea is something that the business community wants, and this translates into being something that the free-enterpriser politicians would advocate for. - This particular ferry idea is a different market & demographic than the small island lifeline car ferries that the free-enterpriser politicians might commonly ignore.
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Post by Neil on Nov 13, 2018 17:06:47 GMT -8
Thank you for your kind replies, but this thread is named, "Possible Nanaimo passenger ferry - Island Ferry Services Ltd." What other candidate is supporting this much needed, Nanaimo/ Vancouver passenger foot ferry? The Mid-Isle does need this. We moved to Nanaimo (2004) dependent on the HarbourLynx, and are anxious for such a great service to be in place again. Anyone have any promising information? Some information that would definitely not qualify as promising would be the fact that every single attempt at a private, non-subsidized passenger ferry service from the Vancouver area has failed. Multiple ventures to Nanaimo, Victoria, Gibsons, and Bowen Island, with varying degrees of financing behind them, have not worked. The latest attempt at an upscale route to Victoria has had low patronage. If this latest attempt gets going successfully it will set a precedent, but I suspect that we just don't have the population for private services, charging what they need to charge, without government support. And chances are that the position of candidates for the local MLA vacancy are not really key, either way.
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Post by marino on Nov 13, 2018 17:17:17 GMT -8
Much appreciation for your response, "Low Light Mike"--you present solid points-!
Perhaps, no news is good news from IFS (Island Ferry Services Ltd.), so our fingers are crossed for the better.
We have high hopes that Nanaimo *will* become a waterfront, bedroom community to Vancouver, but will this soon happen - w/ a foot ferry - is our query.
Maybe, w/ Mr. Tony Harris, it is more probable than not, as he is actually talking about it--that's very encouraging for us.
BTW: I have a Yamaha Flugel horn ... :-)
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Post by marino on Nov 13, 2018 17:27:04 GMT -8
Thanks for your reply, too, Neil. You posted while I was responding to Low Light Mike - missed ya there-!
You also have strong points ...
Sometimes though, there are "Black Swan" events-!
Maybe a foot-ferry Nanaimo run will finally break the mold, especially given housing costs on the Mainland.
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Post by whalebreath on Nov 14, 2018 21:08:48 GMT -8
I'm not saying never but....
I have never met anyone who commuted to/from Vancouver Island regularly for any amount of time-from where will these intrepid workaday warriors come?
What demographic, what thriving industry will help break the mold?
The cyber age is all about not having to commute.
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Post by Neil on Nov 14, 2018 21:24:39 GMT -8
I'm not saying never but.... I have never met anyone who commuted to/from Vancouver Island regularly for any amount of time-from where will these intrepid workaday warriors come? What demographic, what thriving industry will help break the mold? The cyber age is all about not having to commute. Excellent point... one that I had not really thought of. Workplaces are changing, including our physical connection. If potential operators are banking on people going back and forth five days a week, they might be dreaming.
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Post by Dane on Nov 14, 2018 23:36:09 GMT -8
I commute every week across the Salish Sea. It isn't five days, but, it's frequent enough!
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Post by marino on Nov 15, 2018 17:35:54 GMT -8
My wife & I both still commute for career-related projects. Not everything can be done via computer.
But, there’s more than just workplaces involved … what about ‘everything’ else?
When we moved to Nanaimo, the Harbourlynx was perfect for "child access," for one other example :-)
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Post by Dane on Nov 15, 2018 19:44:13 GMT -8
BC Ferries passenger numbers also show any idea of a digital workplace making a dent in travel across the Straight probably isn't well founded.
Route 2/30 obviously don't do near what Route 1 does, but still enough there that it seems like a well run company could drive a wedge into the market.
V2V in Victoria isn't doing great, I don't think, averaging in the mid-30s per crossing based on stricly anecdotal observation. But, they're priced into a ridiculously high bracket that's inaccessible for any reasonable local.
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Post by Neil on Nov 15, 2018 20:42:17 GMT -8
BC Ferries passenger numbers also show any idea of a digital workplace making a dent in travel across the Straight probably isn't well founded. Route 2/30 obviously don't do near what Route 1 does, but still enough there that it seems like a well run company could drive a wedge into the market. V2V in Victoria isn't doing great, I don't think, averaging in the mid-30s per crossing based on stricly anecdotal observation. But, they're priced into a ridiculously high bracket that's inaccessible for any reasonable local. YYJ/marino: I would suggest that of the people who move from the mainland to Vancouver Island, the number of those who do so with the intention of commuting back on a daily or semi-daily basis is vanishingly small. That's what past operators have found, and probably why they failed.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Nov 15, 2018 21:54:55 GMT -8
I am wondering what Island Ferries LTD. is doing since has been updated since June 4, 2018. I hope Island Ferries starts in winter or spring of 2019 because it seems like there could be good mixture of commuters and tourists for this service.
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Post by Neil on Nov 15, 2018 22:06:07 GMT -8
I am wondering what Island Ferries LTD. is doing since has been updated since June 4, 2018. I hope Island Ferries starts in winter or spring of 2019 because it seems like there could be good mixture of commuters and tourists for this service. And you're basing that view on...?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Nov 15, 2018 22:13:20 GMT -8
I am wondering what Island Ferries LTD. is doing since has been updated since June 4, 2018. I hope Island Ferries starts in winter or spring of 2019 because it seems like there could be good mixture of commuters and tourists for this service. And you're basing that view on...? Directress and quickness of service since it is go direct to Downtown Vancouver.
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Post by Neil on Nov 15, 2018 23:31:44 GMT -8
And you're basing that view on...? Directress and quickness of service since it is go direct to Downtown Vancouver. I was thinking more in terms of any indication that such a service has a potential viable ridership. We've never seen that.
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Post by marino on Nov 17, 2018 9:19:44 GMT -8
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Post by marino on Nov 29, 2018 15:12:11 GMT -8
Ahoy, 'Ferry Friends'
Last Saturday, November 24 - during candidate Tony Harris's "Super Saturday" - a canvasser for Tony gave us an informative handout, that listed "Tony's Priorities."
There were four points--I'm sure many of you have seen this handout.
The 2nd point read: "Commuter ferry service between Nanaimo and Vancouver."
This is an awesome commitment from Mr. Harris, that I have not seen prioritized by any other candidate.
I strongly suggest that our beautiful Harbour community should consider Mr. Harris's platform, if we want to assist in helping - and benefit from - Island Ferry Services Ltd. getting their much-needed commuter ferry business operational-!
Thoughts?
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Post by marino on Nov 29, 2018 16:27:34 GMT -8
BREAKING NEWS--New Update From IFS, Ltd:
You Do Not need to Log-In to Facebook to read.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 29, 2018 17:34:17 GMT -8
Ahoy, 'Ferry Friends' Last Saturday, November 24 - during candidate Tony Harris's "Super Saturday" - a canvasser for Tony gave us an informative handout, that listed "Tony's Priorities." There were four points--I'm sure many of you have seen this handout. The 2nd point read: " Commuter ferry service between Nanaimo and Vancouver." This is an awesome commitment from Mr. Harris, that I have not seen prioritized by any other candidate. I strongly suggest that our beautiful Harbour community should consider Mr. Harris's platform, if we want to assist in helping - and benefit from - Island Ferry Services Ltd. getting their much-needed commuter ferry business operational-! Thoughts? Just asking, because the thought occurred to me: Are you a short-term member here who is using this forum to social-media campaign for the BC Liberal Party? You'll know that my asking is a legitimate question, given the outspoken and absolute nature of the various political comments in your posts in the last few weeks. I've got no time or interest in reading party campaigning on this here forum. If the regular members on this forum are being used, please let us know. Thanks.
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Post by Neil on Nov 29, 2018 17:41:30 GMT -8
Ahoy, 'Ferry Friends' Last Saturday, November 24 - during candidate Tony Harris's "Super Saturday" - a canvasser for Tony gave us an informative handout, that listed "Tony's Priorities." There were four points--I'm sure many of you have seen this handout. The 2nd point read: " Commuter ferry service between Nanaimo and Vancouver." This is an awesome commitment from Mr. Harris, that I have not seen prioritized by any other candidate. I strongly suggest that our beautiful Harbour community should consider Mr. Harris's platform, if we want to assist in helping - and benefit from - Island Ferry Services Ltd. getting their much-needed commuter ferry business operational-! Thoughts? It's clear that you're voting for this fellow, if not working for him... which is fine. What I'm not clear on is what tangible role a rookie MLA for a (currently) opposition party could play in advancing this private enterprise proposal. It's not as if the Horgan government is going to be throwing up roadblocks against a project that they don't have to subsidize. So he's in favour of it. All well and good. I'm not sure that's relevant, given that every other private ferry project in this province has failed, no matter how much goodwill has been offered by any politician.
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