Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jun 26, 2005 20:19:43 GMT -8
I actually got up to 120 or 130 once on the connector from Merrit to Kelowna! You can sure go fast along there! The highway between Squamish and Cache Creek is slower and is more scenic too! Narrow and windy too!
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Post by YZFNick on Jun 26, 2005 20:33:08 GMT -8
A Dodge Caravan cuts out at 170 km/h. I've only done it twice, and I got up to 180 in my old Caravan. The few times I've gone through the Okanagan I've gone usually under the limit to take in the sights. I like when you make a turn and large vinyard on a hill takes up the whole vista, it's quite a welcome to the Okanagan.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jun 26, 2005 20:42:14 GMT -8
wow, yeah we were in our newer 98 model dodge caravan and the highest was 130 along there! I usually dont speed but is easy to go over the speed limits along those straight stretches and going down hills too.
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Post by Balfour on Jun 26, 2005 20:54:01 GMT -8
Yeah, I haven't done any road trips yet (I've only had my N since October), When I've had to pick up my brother from Working in Dunderave at 1AM I've done 120-125 in my 2000 Grand Caravan. Once you're past Taylor Way in West Van on the Upper Levels, you can make pretty good time to Horseshoe Bay, the Speedlimit is only 90, but the highway could probably handle 100.
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 26, 2005 21:17:07 GMT -8
I've never seen a ferry go to port mellon, for the time that I've lived over here anyway. What is the route of it? Looking on the maps, there is a road that goes to it from Langdale as you get off the ferry going to Gibsons and there's an intersection where the new highway connects to the old. Most of the route is gravel logging roads, the only part of the route that would have to be built is through the mountains coming into Squamish ( I think ) There would have to be a Bridge that goes over the Squamish/Cheakamus Rivers and there isn't any up until about where the highway washed out in the fall of 2003. But if it went through the way I think it's going to, then it would go through the boonies of Squamish or should I say Upper Squamish/Cheakamus, I don't think the people living up there would like that as their narrow windy road is not policed at all as the speed limit it like 40 and people go like 80.
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Post by Doug on Jun 27, 2005 1:56:11 GMT -8
Not Port Mellon, that mill over there one of the old BC Ferries serves. It's just north of Mellon.
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Post by Balfour on Jun 27, 2005 6:38:28 GMT -8
Yeah that's the Garibaldi 2
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Post by Curtis on Jun 27, 2005 7:20:18 GMT -8
Darrel Bay(Squamish)-Woodfibre. Ferry: The 7 car, 332 passengers Garibaldi II
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 27, 2005 8:29:29 GMT -8
Holy, are you sure that it can hold 332 people? It's really not that big of a passenger area. But I have seen the car deck full of workers going to work on the first run of the day though.
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 27, 2005 8:32:18 GMT -8
Yeah, I haven't done any road trips yet (I've only had my N since October), When I've had to pick up my brother from Working in Dunderave at 1AM I've done 120-125 in my 2000 Grand Caravan. Once you're past Taylor Way in West Van on the Upper Levels, you can make pretty good time to Horseshoe Bay, the Speedlimit is only 90, but the highway could probably handle 100. Yeah it's really easy to speed on that highway, I did 110 once but that was to pass someone, but then I had to pass someone on the Sea to Sky when the limit was 80, and I did 100 It's just too scary to go that fast on that highway because it just makes those huge corners come way faster. But usually almost always I try to stay right on or a tiny bit below the limit.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jun 27, 2005 8:55:10 GMT -8
Yeah well I think the Garabaldi carries more passengers than vehicles. They should convert the car deck to only have space for a few vehicles and make the rest of the car deck inclosed as part of the passenger area. Cause it just goes to Woodfibre so they dont really need vehicles!
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Post by YZFNick on Jun 27, 2005 9:25:03 GMT -8
I found a small photo of the Garibaldi in an aerial of the Woodfibre Mill www.globalairphotos.com/large/BC/Woodfibre/All/1999/001/1Click on the picture to get a zoom. As you can see, the ferry is quite a bit larger than the Nimpkish or Nicola. The 7 car capacity is probably only down the centre lane.
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 27, 2005 9:37:05 GMT -8
Ohhh ,right I forgot how she had a modified passenger deck like that, I was looking at the Nimpkish and thinking they would never be able to cram 326 people in her.
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Post by Ian on Jul 5, 2005 9:37:14 GMT -8
Build it!
You will still get ferry travelers on each route and the powell river-comox route would get busier promoting powell river. The earls cve-saltery bay route can run less frequently and the Langdale route will stay the same.
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Post by Ferryman on Jul 5, 2005 9:59:42 GMT -8
Yeah, isn't it cheaper to go on the Comox-Powell River run than on the other major routes? But then there's all of the fuel and time it would take to get from Powell River to Vancouver. But for some people, I guess it would be alot better to take one ferry instead of 3 to get to Vancouver.
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Post by BrianWilliams on Jul 18, 2005 21:39:38 GMT -8
If there were a provincial highway built from PR to Squamish, it would be like the Duffy Lake Road (Hwy 99) from Pemberton to Lillooet. That's an ex-logging road, now paved and (barely) 2 lanes. Beautiful, but slow and often closed in winter. The PR road would be even harder to keep open. Higher passes and more and wetter snow. Along Hwy 99, Duffy Lake in summer: Looking west over the Fraser River near Lillooet, from the Kelly Lake-Pavilion dirt road, you can see the wall of mountains ahead. Hwy 99 goes south (left) of the obvious gap. That's the valley of Seton and Anderson Lakes and it's just passable for BC Railway. Hwy 99 jinks and climbs through the creek valleys SW of Lillooet.
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Post by Balfour on Jul 18, 2005 21:44:24 GMT -8
The Duffey Lake Road is a beautiful drive. I did it with my family in the summer of 1999, when I was going to Barkerville.
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Post by Ian on Jul 18, 2005 22:03:32 GMT -8
I remember it when i was really little.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 19, 2005 8:31:42 GMT -8
Yeah we did a few years ago too! It's a slower route, but a really nice scenic drive!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 19, 2005 18:54:25 GMT -8
Brian: have you walked across the old highway bridge at Lilooet (the closed bridge, over the Fraser) ? That's a neat structure to walk over, especially with the fast-flowing Fraser visible between the cracks and gaps in the old wooden structure.
I presume that you've also walked across the old Alexandra Bridge, at Alexandra Bridge park in the Fraser Canyon.
I've got a thing for historical BC Bridges. Does anyone else?
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Post by Ferryman on Aug 1, 2005 18:36:07 GMT -8
I came back home over the Duffy from Kamloops on Saturday. It took 5 hours and once we got to Pemberton, it felt real good to see fields on both sides of the highway instead of steep dropoffs on the edge of the road. There's no speeding on that road, it's hard enough to do the speed limit. It does have really beautiful scenery, but I prefer the Coquihalla for the speed and amount of time it takes to get to Kamloops, even though you have to back pedal from my house in Squamish to Vancouver but we still get there sooner (not speeding at all)
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Post by BrianWilliams on Aug 2, 2005 21:38:18 GMT -8
To Chris:
If you want really slow someday, but super-scenic: From Lillooet, drive the gravel Bridge River Road to Bralorne, then Hurley Pass down to Pemberton Meadows.
To Flugel Horn:
Yes, I am an old bridge fan, too. I have crossed the ancient Lillooet Bridge (Bridge Of The 7 Camels, I think it's called) and the Alexandria Bridge. When you see the Alex Bridge again, look at the massive stone piers.
Newcastle Island sandstone, they are.
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Post by Quinsam on Aug 2, 2005 21:48:49 GMT -8
I'm just a bridge fan, I like bridges, but I like ferries too, and bridges over the Strait of georgia wouldn't be possible anyways, the Currents of the Georgia are too strong to hold a bridge.
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Post by Quinsam on Aug 2, 2005 21:51:37 GMT -8
I like the Tower Bridge iin London, thats 2 centuries old nearly, Ironworkers and Granville Bridges, the Burrard Bridge, but the Cambie st bridge seems a little to common. My Favourite in Vancouver is the Lions gate Bridge(First Narrows). Alex Fraser is a very cools bridge, it is held by cables in the middle of the bridge, unlike lions gate where the cables are being held together on either side of the Bridge.
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