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Post by Neil on Jul 15, 2009 9:59:35 GMT -8
Borat, meet 'qonw'. Not quite as ambitious as Making Fame To Glorious People's Republic of Kazakhstan, but, hey, when you're thirteen years old and you've been sent to your room for a time out, there's got to be something you can do... Interesting that the 'friend' materializes on the very day his li'l bud is forced to take a breather. Interesting, too, the fractured English that is spelled perfectly. I think Mill Bay called it right. Our industrious young member is certainly clever enough to continue the ruse, if he so chooses.
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Post by Mill Bay on Jul 15, 2009 10:11:54 GMT -8
Borat, meet 'qonw'. Not quite as ambitious as Making Fame To Glorious People's Republic of Kazakhstan, but, hey, when you're thirteen years old and you've been sent to your room for a time out, there's got to be something you can do... Interesting that the 'friend' materializes on the very day his li'l bud is forced to take a breather. Interesting, too, the fractured English that is spelled perfectly. I think Mill Bay called it right. Our industrious young member is certainly clever enough to continue the ruse, if he so chooses. To his credit, he was also at least shrewd enough to make sure that the bosom buddy was gracious enough to heap praise on his own artistic devices.
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 16, 2009 9:14:54 GMT -8
Borat, meet 'qonw'. Not quite as ambitious as Making Fame To Glorious People's Republic of Kazakhstan, but, hey, when you're thirteen years old and you've been sent to your room for a time out, there's got to be something you can do... Interesting that the 'friend' materializes on the very day his li'l bud is forced to take a breather. Interesting, too, the fractured English that is spelled perfectly. I think Mill Bay called it right. Our industrious young member is certainly clever enough to continue the ruse, if he so chooses. To his credit, he was also at least shrewd enough to make sure that the bosom buddy was gracious enough to heap praise on his own artistic devices. Everyone: I'm laughing right now. qonw (sean) IS a real person. He live a few houses down fromme on my street, and I presume he lied about his age, because he's only 14. He is in no way from Quebec, and I have no idea why he was creating such a lame attempt at that. He can't even speak french. His laptop's in the shop right now, so he's been using my computer for the past 2 weeks, which probably explains the same IP address. He IS however a fan of the ferries, and it was mere coincidence that he joined the day I was banned ( I had told him the evening before of the forum). His name isn't even Sean, it's Andrew. And we were over at my house hanging out when I posted one message thru his account. He isn't going to like me for this
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 16, 2009 9:20:05 GMT -8
To his credit, he was also at least shrewd enough to make sure that the bosom buddy was gracious enough to heap praise on his own artistic devices. Everyone: I'm laughing right now. qonw (sean) IS a real person. He live a few houses down fromme on my street, and I presume he lied about his age, because he's only 14. He is in no way from Quebec, and I have no idea why he was creating such a lame attempt at that. He can't even speak french. His laptop's in the shop right now, so he's been using my computer for the past 2 weeks, which probably explains the same IP address. He IS however a fan of the ferries, and it was mere coincidence that he joined the day I was banned ( I had told him the evening before of the forum). His name isn't even Sean, it's Andrew. And we were over at my house hanging out when I posted one message thru his account. He isn't going to like me for this Since Andrew is a little liar, I'm going to delete his account and let him start over on a truthful basis, if he wishes to re-join. I suggest you explain the forum rules to him and let him know that he'll be banned / deleted again if he acts up again. This forum is not a playground. And if he messes up on his account while using your computer (ie. breaks the rules), and we ban the IP address that he was last using, then it's going to affect you. So that gives you incentive to ensure that he doesn't act up. Clear?
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 16, 2009 9:23:58 GMT -8
okay. I think he didn't know that you all were adults. He can be a smart-alec sometimes.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 16, 2009 9:27:53 GMT -8
okay. I think he didn't know that you all were adults. He can be a smart-alec sometimes. Oh, so that means that we'll be deleting lots of his posts and likely banning him by tomorrow, given his maturity level? Take a look at some late edits I made to my previous post here, about how an IP ban on his account might hurt you. - I'm not sure that you understand the seriousness of the posts made by your friend. It's not a funny item to be laughing about. It destroys your friend's credibility here and hurts your credibility here too. Trust is a hard thing to rebuild.....but it can be done, just not instantly.
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 16, 2009 9:29:26 GMT -8
oh, yes: while I was gone I made some progress on my model: The ferry is starting to take shape I extended the bridge, creating the crew's quarters, and made stairwells in the side and stern of the boat. (Aft stairwell is the indentation in the back) I'm starting to make the windows. Guides are still in place
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Post by Nickfro on Jul 16, 2009 13:13:05 GMT -8
okay. I think he didn't know that you all were adults. He can be a smart-alec sometimes. Oh, so that means that we'll be deleting lots of his posts and likely banning him by tomorrow, given his maturity level? Take a look at some late edits I made to my previous post here, about how an IP ban on his account might hurt you. - I'm not sure that you understand the seriousness of the posts made by your friend. It's not a funny item to be laughing about. It destroys your friend's credibility here and hurts your credibility here too. Trust is a hard thing to rebuild.....but it can be done, just not instantly. I second Flugel's points here. May I suggest you sit back, relax, do some quality light reading thru the forum and its many informative threads, and you will be better off when mingling with the group that participates here. I recall this tidbit from the [url=http://www.westcoastferries.ca/forum/ForumRules.pdf ]forum rules[/url] that was mentioned before. . . I like your enthusiasm, but me thinks that you might want to ease up on your frequency of posts and, more importantly, the threads you create. This can be a good way to establish some respect and credibility in this fine establishment. I feel like you are going to catch my number of posts before July ends. ;D 500 Posts. . .that's a huge milestone for me..!I'm not a moderator, but it's probably also important to know what others think as well.
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Post by Neil on Jul 16, 2009 13:16:44 GMT -8
Everyone: I'm laughing right now. qonw (sean) IS a real person. He live a few houses down fromme on my street, and I presume he lied about his age, because he's only 14. He is in no way from Quebec, and I have no idea why he was creating such a lame attempt at that. He can't even speak french. His laptop's in the shop right now, so he's been using my computer for the past 2 weeks, which probably explains the same IP address. He IS however a fan of the ferries, and it was mere coincidence that he joined the day I was banned ( I had told him the evening before of the forum). His name isn't even Sean, it's Andrew. And we were over at my house hanging out when I posted one message thru his account. He isn't going to like me for this Here's the thing, for me: In your short time on this forum, you've told at least three whoppers. One, that you just happened to have ridden on the same Albion ferry 36- or was it 72- times in a row. Try flipping a coin in the air, and get back to me when you get heads 36 times in a row. I suspect you'll be seeing your 100th birthday card from the Queen first. Then you told us that you biked 70 kilometres in the hail and snow, along a highway, to the Tsawwassen ferry terminal, on a school field trip, and 'camped' in Victoria. You're thirteen years old- no school would sanction such a thing. Then, you get caught in a juvenile prank inventing a new forum member, and you blame it on a friend, who's computer just happened to be in the shop, and who just happened to use yours on the day you were sidelined, to play his joke. And now you're telling us on the Wikipedia thread that it's fine to plagiarize other people's information by changing a few words. You're a young kid with your own sense of honesty. I have no problem with your participation in the forum, but my view on the value of your posts will be influenced by what I've seen so far.
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 16, 2009 14:32:43 GMT -8
Everyone: I'm laughing right now. qonw (sean) IS a real person. He live a few houses down fromme on my street, and I presume he lied about his age, because he's only 14. He is in no way from Quebec, and I have no idea why he was creating such a lame attempt at that. He can't even speak french. His laptop's in the shop right now, so he's been using my computer for the past 2 weeks, which probably explains the same IP address. He IS however a fan of the ferries, and it was mere coincidence that he joined the day I was banned ( I had told him the evening before of the forum). His name isn't even Sean, it's Andrew. And we were over at my house hanging out when I posted one message thru his account. He isn't going to like me for this Here's the thing, for me: In your short time on this forum, you've told at least three whoppers. One, that you just happened to have ridden on the same Albion ferry 36- or was it 72- times in a row. Try flipping a coin in the air, and get back to me when you get heads 36 times in a row. I suspect you'll be seeing your 100th birthday card from the Queen first. Then you told us that you biked 70 kilometres in the hail and snow, along a highway, to the Tsawwassen ferry terminal, on a school field trip, and 'camped' in Victoria. You're thirteen years old- no school would sanction such a thing. Then, you get caught in a juvenile prank inventing a new forum member, and you blame it on a friend, who's computer just happened to be in the shop, and who just happened to use yours on the day you were sidelined, to play his joke. And now you're telling us on the Wikipedia thread that it's fine to plagiarize other people's information by changing a few words. You're a young kid with your own sense of honesty. I have no problem with your participation in the forum, but my view on the value of your posts will be influenced by what I've seen so far. Would you rather i send along a video of himself saying 'hello, my name is Andrew, and I am sorry for the trouble that I have caused with my false identity'? Andrew is not a lie, he's my neighboor. This is like saying that 'Hullnumbers' (sorry for bringing him into this) is actually Coastal Skier's second I.D. The Tswassen bike thing: It's my schools outdoor club. They also allowed us to climb a mountain with a 2 foot wide ledge (Golden Ears). The ferry thing may have been a bit exaggerated, but for as long as i can remember, I have never been on the Kulleet until I actually made a point of getting on her last week.
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 16, 2009 14:33:25 GMT -8
Now please let us drop this topic, or move it to a different thread. This thread is for SketchUp, not arguing about if my neighboor is real.
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 18, 2009 23:11:13 GMT -8
I have finished all the windows on the port side. they are almost 4 metres wide. Panoramic View! I made two Aft Solariums. I also completed one of the lifeboats. Here are my most recent photos: Please give advice.
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 19, 2009 9:34:05 GMT -8
I edited the entrances to the solariums, to reduce wind blowing in from the front of the ship. I also have signage all over the ship too.
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 20, 2009 18:47:35 GMT -8
The Queen of the Coast is FINISHED! Here are some photos: the mast the ship I have a dogwood instead of the national flag on the aftermast because I could not find or make any suitable ones for the ferry
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Post by Balfour on Jul 20, 2009 18:50:28 GMT -8
Well done! It's good to see the classic old Dogwood on a ferry, even if it's a model.
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 20, 2009 18:55:40 GMT -8
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Post by lmtengs on Jan 25, 2010 22:46:04 GMT -8
I'm working on a drawing of the 'Fraser Queen'. It's sort of a second generation spirit, with design features from the Coastal Class, the NorEx, the Spirit Class, V-class, and Sidney Class. I'm not done yet, so you can suggest new features, or things to be removed, before I make the final floor plans. Here's what I've drawn so far: Fullsize: farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4305336535_110119fe43_b.jpgNot Fullsize:
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Post by lmtengs on Jun 13, 2010 11:21:23 GMT -8
Here are some more of my recent ferry drawings: I'd appreciate constructive criticism, input, and/or comments about them, so I know how they could be improved in my next drawings. First up, we've got the Pacificat Excursion: Full size: farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4697071110_3615d850f5_b.jpgSecondly, a second-generation Queen of Prince Rupert, which remains more-or-less the same, but with some changes around the edges. The other one on the page is a replacement for the T-Class vessels. Full size: farm2.static.flickr.com/1279/4696436985_e5a5391e5f_b.jpgThirdly, two potential designs for the Northern Discovery. I feel that the second one seems to be of better size. I think the first one looks to tall for it's length: Full size: farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4696436861_c5cb01129a_b.jpgLastly, I've got some more futuristic second Generation Pacificats. The first is a full-out catamaran fast ferry, and the second is an experimental trucks-only ferry with NO passenger lounge space except for an outside deck aft of the wheelhouse. full size: farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4697065028_497e653824_b.jpg
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Post by lmtengs on Aug 7, 2010 20:06:52 GMT -8
Over the past week, I've been working on a new ferry model on SketchUp. The Salish Queen is one meter longer than the Quinitsa, and has much more passenger space. I envision it as a ferry serving a route with much more walk-ons than there are vehicles. Here's a link to the model that can be downloaded to SketchUp: sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=7f05275eddecedd06f3d18c7cf5f8b6Her bow: Her vehicle deck, from the bow. She carries five lanes of traffic. Note that the starboard lounge is wider than it's twin on the port side. This is outside deck 3: The 'Tengs Ferries' logo on the funnel. I would've attempted a BC Ferries slug logo, but decided not to, for obvious reasons... at least I got the colour right this time. Her mast: The cafeteria, located in the aftmost part of starboard deck one: The narrow port deck one lounge: The hallway from the forward starboard lounge to the staterooms and cafeteria on deck one. The deck one starboard lounge. Note how all spaces are unfurnished. This is because if I add too much detail, the computer would slow down a lot, and when that happens the modeling gets rather boring... Outside port deck two. deck two starboard, looking aft. Deck two starboard, looking aft from the bow. Deck two starboard lounge. I'm not posting photos from the port lounge on this deck, because it looks the same without the outside deck next to it... Larboardside Starboardside Aft Top The wheelhouse on deck three, looking aft.
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Post by Scott on Dec 3, 2010 0:19:48 GMT -8
Anyone come across this toy ferry before? www.hlj.com/product/TOM71066It's made by the Japanese toy company Tomica. I don't think they have any distributors in Canada, and I just happened to read a little line in a newspaper today about the company trying to make inroads into the USA this Christmas for the first time in 40 years. It's probably the best looking/operating toy ferry I've seen that's been mass produced.
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Post by lmtengs on Dec 15, 2010 17:17:08 GMT -8
The Spirit-X class ferry. It's a little less than double the length of a normal Spirit Ferry. Kind of like a Spirit on steroids. The picture's a tad small, but a full size copy can be downloaded HERE. The Spirit-X is packed full with amenities without taking away from the normal seating lounges. the ship is 13 vehicle lanes wide, yet the bulkheads reduce the actual lanes to 11 for most of the length of the ship. The two gallery decks are 3 lanes wide, respectively, and they can be hoisted. Those really tall windows, about amidships, are the atrium. Each window is actually a semi-circle, and they jut out of the side of the ship a bit. Their bottoms are a thick plexiglass, so passengers can look down at the water 3 decks below them. Decks 6 and 7 are open to below in the atrium area, with a corridor on each of the two decks spanning the length of the atrium. On deck 5, the bottom deck of the atrium, there is a marketplace where vendors would sell trinkets to tourists. And no, the hull part of the side-drawing is not supposed to be at all accurate. I'm not an expert in that field. I do like the idea of her having three bow thrusters, three aft thrusters, and 4 screws propelling her, though. It would increase speed and maneuverability. My goal speed for this ship is 26 knots. She would serve route 1 along with the two original spirits. I'm not sure if these ships would fit through active pass, hence the faster travel speed so they can go around the long way without affecting travel time. The Driftwood class is a potential replacement for the Queen of Burnaby. The ship is just a little bit longer than the Sidney Class ferries, but it is designed to be able to be extended in the future if needed. The ship is 9 vehicle lanes wide, but the center bulkhead reduces that to 8 lanes on the car deck. Her gallery decks accommodate 2 lanes each. I think they will be hoistable. I wrote a bunch of notes at the bottom of the Driftwood class drawing. If you can actually read my scribbly mess, feel free to comment on them. ;D
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 16, 2010 8:21:40 GMT -8
Funnel placement needs to move forward; remember that the funnel has all the exhaust lines running up to it and you have your uptakes running right through a stairwell. Plus, the machinery casing that far aft will be a royal P.I.A. to load and offload around.
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Post by lmtengs on Apr 30, 2011 11:59:29 GMT -8
A Front view of the completed Hartley bay Queen Recently I revisited this old model I made awhile back, and wondered what it would look like if I renovated it to meet my current 'standards of perfection'. So, I looked it over and decided it would need a TOTAL gutting and rebuilding. So I erased every inside piece of this ship, and redrew that, lifting the ship by a few feet in a few places and lowering it by a few in other areas. Then I extended it a whole whack to eliminate that gross front-heavy and top-heavy look, and I built a solarium onto the ship in the process. I built a whole new wheelhouse, and also widened the vehicle deck to eliminate that weird passenger space I had on both sides of the vehicle deck. And, I did a whole bunch of other stuff, like adding stairwells inside, fixing the paint colour to the exact BCF Blue, etc, etc, etc.... Well, here are two photos, and a link to the new model on the 3D warehouse: sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=34644d0c1106ca16852ae095a967f0caA front view A back view. Click on the pictures for larger versions.
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Apr 30, 2011 13:17:42 GMT -8
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Post by lmtengs on Jun 11, 2011 17:14:46 GMT -8
I finished a model of the Driftwood Class ferry today. It's 118 meters long, 20 meters wide, has one car deck, and an option to add hoistable gallery decks in the future. The ship has three passenger-accessible decks above the car deck, with the upper one being mainly just outdoor space and solarium. Decks are numbered in the same way that they are on the Super-C class and the NorEx, skipping deck 3 so that all the upper decks don't have to be renumbered when/if I add gallery decks. Originally this ship was a drawing, posted earlier in this thread: The Driftwood class is a potential replacement for the Queen of Burnaby. The ship is just a little bit longer than the Sidney Class ferries, but it is designed to be able to be extended in the future if needed. The ship is 9 vehicle lanes wide, but the center bulkhead reduces that to 8 lanes on the car deck. Her gallery decks accommodate 2 lanes each. I think they will be hoistable. I wrote a bunch of notes at the bottom of the Driftwood class drawing. If you can actually read my scribbly mess, feel free to comment on them. ;D So, major changes from the original drawing are that the ship has six lanes on the car deck, not 8, and as previously mentioned, the gallery decks were not added on the model. I still might add them in the future. The 'curvy' bow railing, similar to that on the NorEx/Ad was changed to the traditional straight railing. She IS equipped to accept skywalks. I didn't really go with the 'less' or 'more' option on car deck windows, instead mainly just rearranging them. I did not eliminate deck 5, and went with one elevator, and two stairwells for access from car deck to pax decks. Also, if you look at the windows on the model, they are designed in an endless line style. I like the look of it, and it ensures that every seat has a great. Funnel placement needs to move forward; remember that the funnel has all the exhaust lines running up to it and you have your uptakes running right through a stairwell. Plus, the machinery casing that far aft will be a royal P.I.A. to load and offload around. I took Barnacle's advice with funnel placement, and moved it forward. Likely not as much as I should've, but it's a start. So here are the pictures: A construction photo. Note the presence of a bow section of the Spirit-X class ferry (not sure if I ended up posting pictures of her here) so I could have something to go by while designing the bow section of the new ferry. The bow, viewed from below. The bow, from above. The stern. Note the further-forward positioning of the funnel compared to in the drawing. It's not much, but it's some. The starboard side. Looking forward on the upper passenger deck (6). Looking forward on deck 4. The first little lump is the railing from the aft stairwell to the car deck. The next stairwell leads up to deck 5, and it's harder to see, but near the front the stairwell/elevator tower is visible. Stairs there go both up and down. Passenger decks are unfinished save for paint and carpeting. The elevator on deck 6. The stairs are visible just aft of it. Looking forward on the car deck. The aft tower contains the machinery casing and aft stairs, and the forward tower contains the elevator and forward stairs. I guess additional vehicles could be placed in the void between the two towers during a period of high-traffic. The wheelhouse. Notice the stairs running up into the mast. There is a door in the back of the mast to access Monkey's Island (visible in one of the stern views), which could double as exterior bridge-wings if I were to add railings (which I won't). I really like this design. Probably this and the Spirit-X are my favorites of my designs. EDIT: For those who have SketchUp, I've uploaded her to the 3D warehouse: sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=4cb135ddc5d3211c713a67cd30c1e1dc
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