jromkes
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Post by jromkes on Sept 17, 2018 12:49:12 GMT -8
Yes, that's her, former sjernarøy, la Vida, smal Agt II, and now Noorderkroon(Northern Crown). She was already heavily modified in Norway, to be used as a casino/party ship. Once brought to the Netherlands she was again modified to serve as a training ship for youthful delinquents. The project was too expensive and got shut down after 3 years. But not before modernization of the interior and electronics, at a cost of about a million euros. She then was layed up till 2014, when the seacadetcorps bought her to serve once again as a training ship. It took a period of 5 weeks on the hard, and a long time before and after that to get her back to a good condition, but she serves well, every Saturday as a home base, and we take her out for trips as much as we can. It's a wonderful and easy ship (although not to manouvre!) And the main engine is a piece of art, which will get some serious maintanance this winter. Although the ship is less original then Frances Barkley a lot of it is very recognizable. The engine room is a duplicate (no problems starting that up in the dark) and so are the steering wheel stand and the machine telegraph stand (although they are in a different position in our wheelhouse) the 'salong' and 'nedgang' signs where on our doors as well before maintenance, should be somewhere on board to be placed back though( while sanding last year we found some old painted signs above the door to the lower passenger lounge showing 'salong' ' livbät' ( lifeboat) and 'wc'). The 6 portholes in the middle are indeed for 3 rooms on each side with a single bed, I might have pictures of them and will look them up if anyone's interested(but already in a derelict state when we bought the ship). It's very nice to see pictures of a ship which is so recognizable on the other side of the planet, and I hope to visit for a trip next year.
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Post by WettCoast on May 21, 2019 20:14:12 GMT -8
Well I finally did Alberni Inlet/ Barkley Sound again, having done it twice previously, once in 1979 and again in 1987. This was my first trip on the 'new' boat, Frances Barkley. It seems unlikely that I will get to experience the even newer boat, Alberni Legacy.
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Neil
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Post by Neil on May 22, 2019 9:26:48 GMT -8
Well I finally did Alberni Inlet/ Barkley Sound again, having done it twice previously, once in 1979 and again in 1987. This was my first trip on the 'new' boat, Frances Barkley. It seems unlikely that I will get to experience the even newer boat, Alberni Legacy.
Really? Mike Surrell had told me in a note that they were still working on the plans for the ex- Tenaka. Is that looking bleak now?
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Post by WettCoast on May 23, 2019 22:55:14 GMT -8
Really? Mike Surrell had told me in a note that they were still working on the plans for the ex- Tenaka. Is that looking bleak now? Neil, two points ... It is unlikely that I will do that route again any time soon. Another marine tour on the Island's west coast may happen in the not too distant future, but I would rather go for another Uchuck III trip.
Secondly, the Alberni Legacy looks to be really deprived of TLC. I think LRMS has maybe now figured out the fuel burn difference between her and the Frances Barkley. I am beginning to think that 'AL' will never see revenue service with LRMS.
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Post by whalebreath on May 31, 2019 21:35:25 GMT -8
It certainly looked that way back in March this year-a few steps short of 'hulk' status but no TLC apparent. I also got a good look from the public wharf side of the slip too not encouraging although all it takes is money for a resurrection.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 3, 2019 20:12:52 GMT -8
I was in Port Alberni on Sunday morning, so I stopped by to see the ships at Lady Rose Marine Services. Not much has changed since I last saw them, which was probably a year ago. MV Frances Barkley, on a day off. DSC08921 MV Frances Barkley by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr ex-Tenaka and Frances Barkley DSC08900 ex Tenaka and Frances Barkley by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr I haven't taken a Lady Rose Marine Services cruise since February 2016. I'm due, so maybe it will happen again for me in 2020.
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Post by whalebreath on Dec 10, 2019 18:28:51 GMT -8
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Jan 28, 2020 19:19:16 GMT -8
Looking at the post immediately above this one, and taking into account the recent closure of Highway 4 at the Kennedy Lake project, I thought of how the Frances Barkley would have been utilized. I wonder if LRMS would have been able to run her around the clock, given how Tofino and Ucluelet were completely cut off from everything freight oriented. Stores were running out of groceries, and fuel was in short supply.
Even more useful would have been the ex-Tenaka, now Alberni Legacy, sitting unused in Port Alberni for, what, three years now? After all this time, one can't be very hopeful LRMS will ever get her operational, but occasions like this highlight the need for more than one connection to the Long Beach area.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 28, 2020 20:08:56 GMT -8
Looking at the post immediately above this one, and taking into account the recent closure of Highway 4 at the Kennedy Lake project, I thought of how the Frances Barkley would have been utilized. I wonder if LRMS would have been able to run her around the clock, given how Tofino and Ucluelet were completely cut off from everything freight oriented. Stores were running out of groceries, and fuel was in short supply. Even more useful would have been the ex- Tenaka, now Alberni Legacy, sitting unused in Port Alberni for, what, three years now? After all this time, one can't be very hopeful LRMS will ever get her operational, but occasions like this highlight the need for more than one connection to the Long Beach area. The Frances Barkley route to Ucluelet crosses two wide sections of open Barkley Sound which get some big winter swells. I think this is a main reason of why Lady Rose Marine Services only does a Ucluelet route in the summer, because of weather.
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Jan 28, 2020 21:14:17 GMT -8
Looking at the post immediately above this one, and taking into account the recent closure of Highway 4 at the Kennedy Lake project, I thought of how the Frances Barkley would have been utilized. I wonder if LRMS would have been able to run her around the clock, given how Tofino and Ucluelet were completely cut off from everything freight oriented. Stores were running out of groceries, and fuel was in short supply. Even more useful would have been the ex- Tenaka, now Alberni Legacy, sitting unused in Port Alberni for, what, three years now? After all this time, one can't be very hopeful LRMS will ever get her operational, but occasions like this highlight the need for more than one connection to the Long Beach area. The Frances Barkley route to Ucluelet crosses two wide sections of open Barkley Sound which get some big winter swells. I think this is a main reason of why Lady Rose Marine Services only does a Ucluelet route in the summer, because of weather. Granted, but I think another reason for not operating to Ucluelet off season might be the level of tourist travel. And... for emergency situations, like the last few days, it might be worthwhile for local or even the provincial government to set up a protocol for how LRMS might assist with supplies and connection. In any event, it's unfortunate that things have not worked out to incorporate the ex- Tenaka (still can't quite buy Alberni Legacy as her name)... I recall reading how LRMS was even thinking of buying a second car ferry at one time. In the end, they didn't even make one ferry work.
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Post by Ferryman on Aug 9, 2021 16:17:48 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 9, 2021 17:22:41 GMT -8
Thanks very much for posting this. Very sad indeed. I hope that the owners can personally recover financially from the hardships of keeping the business going for the past 17 months. Some parts of the Lady Rose Marine Services routes were partially funded by the Province through BC Ferries. I wonder if the Province will seek a new end-provider for that.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 16, 2021 18:21:41 GMT -8
Here's a CBC news story on the service provided by Lady Rose Marine Services: H E R E
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Aug 16, 2021 21:06:56 GMT -8
Here's a CBC news story on the service provided by Lady Rose Marine Services: H E R EWell, that's interesting, and rather unexpected. I did think it odd that in the original story about the closing, LRMS owner Mike Surrell stated that the business was closing down, and not being sold. Didn't seem to make sense that no effort would be made to find a buyer. Most likely the futility of the Tenaka/Alberni Legacy effort combined with Covid drained the company's financial resources past the breaking point. I doubt anyone would get rich off this venture, but I hope there's enough operating revenue going forward to sustain things for the new owner(s)... if this actually does come to pass. And I hope the Frances Barkley is in good shape, because there might also be regulatory challenges with keeping a fairly elderly vessel in passenger revenue service.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 16, 2021 21:19:59 GMT -8
The story about the last-minute buyer strikes me as a bit odd, because buying a marine transportation business with an aged vessel and limited revenues isn't someone to be decided on at the spur of the moment.
Perhaps the buyer was already contemplating this, or there is more to the story. As as been said many times on this forum, time will tell.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 17, 2021 6:55:39 GMT -8
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Post by whalebreath on Aug 18, 2021 21:28:38 GMT -8
Yes that could be the fly in the ointment I've never toured the engine room but the passenger areas are worn & tired.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 25, 2021 10:25:09 GMT -8
Here's a news story on the upcoming ownership change at Lady Rose Marine Services: from H E R E
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jul 18, 2022 23:51:15 GMT -8
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Post by whalebreath on Jul 20, 2022 16:21:59 GMT -8
All fine & good yet I was informed this Saturday's cruise is Cancelled because of.............staff shortage.
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Post by rateater on Apr 3, 2023 2:05:50 GMT -8
Does anyone have blueprints of the Frances Barkley?
i'm trying to make a model and i can't get the dimensions right XD any help would be much appreciated
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Post by rateater on Apr 5, 2023 6:34:36 GMT -8
(last time i posted this it got removed probably because i posted it in bc ferries not other) ok so i'm making a model and need blueprints because i screwed up the dimensions if you have any please message me thanks (mods don't delete this pls)
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 5, 2023 6:46:51 GMT -8
(last time i posted this it got removed probably because i posted it in bc ferries not other) ok so i'm making a model and need blueprints because i screwed up the dimensions if you have any please message me thanks (mods don't delete this pls) Mr. R.A. Teater, your post is still there, after being moved to the Frances Barkley thread. You can find it H E R E
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Post by Kahloke on Apr 5, 2023 7:50:37 GMT -8
I moved the above (2) posts into the existing Frances Barkley thread
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Post by FNS on Apr 6, 2023 7:40:07 GMT -8
(last time i posted this it got removed probably because i posted it in bc ferries not other) ok so i'm making a model and need blueprints because i screwed up the dimensions if you have any please message me thanks (mods don't delete this pls) "Low Light Mike" has posted some profiles and deck layouts of the MV FRANCES BARKLEY on this thread. Go to Page 4 and you'll find them near the bottom of that page. All you need to get you started is the vessel's frame spacing.
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