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Post by WettCoast on Dec 5, 2007 19:29:13 GMT -8
Here are two more pics from the 15th of July, 1978. Both are of Langdale Terminal before double decking. both photos by JST - 1978 ©
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Post by Koastal Karl on Mar 24, 2010 8:35:56 GMT -8
Is there beach access at Langdale??? I know I have been down to that beach before on a forum trip once but I dont remembe how you get down there?? I am doing a route 2 and 3 trip Saturday so I was thinking of seeing if I could get photos of the Coquitlam from the beach at Langdale.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Aug 10, 2010 19:15:39 GMT -8
This is the first year I've noticed this...there is quite a large colony (correct collective term??) of snakes inhabiting the rocks near Langdale's berth 1. When I saw them earlier this month there was a pile of 6 or 7 of them. I thought it was just another rock until they started to move. I didn't have my camera with me that day but I managed to get a pic of 2 of them today.
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Post by lmtengs on Aug 10, 2010 20:02:50 GMT -8
there is quite a large colony [of snakes](correct collective term??) A group of snakes would be called a 'nest'. A group of rattlesnakes, however, is called a 'rhumba'.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Aug 11, 2010 13:46:10 GMT -8
Holy smokes! That was at Langdale??? Where abouts??? I dident think we had rattlesnakes down here! I thought they looked pretty big to be from around here! uh oh! Maybe there will a movie called "Snakes on a Ferry" lol! ugh I dont like snakes!
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Post by lmtengs on Aug 11, 2010 13:54:43 GMT -8
Holy smokes! That was at Langdale??? Where abouts??? I dident think we had rattlesnakes down here! I thought they looked pretty big to be from around here! uh oh! Maybe there will a movie called "Snakes on a Ferry" lol! ugh I dont like snakes! Those aren't rattlers. If I had to guess, I'd say it's the common Garter Snake. We get them around Maple Ridge/Pitt Meadows too. They like hanging around rocks, dry grass, and near stagnant water bodies.
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Post by Mike on Sept 20, 2010 14:19:44 GMT -8
Langdale Terminal, viewed from the departing Queen of Surrey. Taken May 17th, 2009.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 27, 2010 15:24:01 GMT -8
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Post by lmtengs on Dec 25, 2010 10:43:38 GMT -8
Some pictures of Langdale, including the construction of some building on the terminal property. The long footie walkway. Highway signs as you leave the terminal. Looking back into the terminal. The terminal entrance. Construction of a new building on terminal property. What would this be? The overhead ramp. Footies unloading from the Queen of Surrey.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 26, 2010 20:02:58 GMT -8
Construction of a new building on terminal property. What would this be? It might be a building for a sewage pump-ashore program? That's just a guess, since those types of buildings are being constructed at other terminals. I've seen a list of the pump-ashore future locations, but I can't remember the details right-now. - maybe check the 2nd quarter's BCFS MD&A report (we have a quarterly reporting thread for this stuff, that detail might be there....).
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Post by Curtis on Jun 28, 2011 19:15:47 GMT -8
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Post by Mike on Aug 19, 2011 17:50:02 GMT -8
Langdale's secondary berth from the viewpoint of a foot passenger.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 6, 2012 20:37:25 GMT -8
Langdale terminal, seen on September 18, 2012. View from the water. - I like the big house on the hill. That would be a great house for a Route-3 ship-spotter. From from the Hopkins Landing wharf. - Salvation Army's "Camp Sunrise" is on the left side.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2012 16:29:55 GMT -8
Photos of berth 2 in Langdale in action last night. Berth 2 hardly ever sees active serivice these days, and this is the first time in a long time that it's been used twice in two consecutive years. Nearing berth 2, Langdale by Howe Sound Ferries, on Flickr Docking in berth 2, Langdale. by Howe Sound Ferries, on Flickr The ship's spotlight is shining on the bottom of the berth's apron. Queen of Surrey docking in berth 2, Langdale by Howe Sound Ferries, on Flickr Langdale, as seen from the Queen of Surrey docking in berth 2 by Howe Sound Ferries, on Flickr Passengers waiting to disembark via Langdale's berth 2 by Howe Sound Ferries, on Flickr
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Post by Dane on Dec 16, 2012 19:17:17 GMT -8
In 2008 and 2009, when I was an active Route 3 traveler, the secondary vessel ( Queen of Cowichan ) often used berth two for the first and last sailings of the day as there wasn't need for the upper car deck - this was of course in summers when two vessel service was in place.
Has this stopped?
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 16, 2012 21:00:11 GMT -8
Not to divert attention from Dane's question...
Langdale always sort of reminds me of what Horseshoe Bay was like back in the late 80's/early 90's. Not much in the way of accomodation for foot passengers as in no heated walkways leading to the berth and of course no overhead walkway. There is at least an enclosed waiting room to sit in. From what I remember at Horseshoe Bay, I think there was only a bus shelter type of place to sit in right up until around 1996 or so. Pretty ironic since Horseshoe Bay and surrounding Howe Sound areas recieve a fair bit of rain at this time of year, more so than most areas of the South Coast at least. Yet, it seems like there was almost always enclosed walkways and waiting rooms at Sunny Tsawwassen. Route 3 is just a bit of a strange route altogether as well. Deckhands don't even earn Sea time on that run as it's in sheltered waters of course. Yet the vessels running there are much larger than ships like the North Island Princess, or Tenaka, etc which sail Near Coastal Voyages.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2012 21:09:20 GMT -8
In 2008 and 2009, when I was an active Route 3 traveler, the secondary vessel ( Queen of Cowichan ) often used berth two for the first and last sailings of the day as there wasn't need for the upper car deck - this was of course in summers when two vessel service was in place. Has this stopped? No, BC Ferries use Berth 1 on all sailings. The secondary vessel the Queen of Coquitlam always ties up in Berth 2 excluding Tuesday the Queen of Coquitlam ties up in Berth 1 and the Queen of Surrey ties up in Berth 2 during the summer. I do not know, why BC ferries does this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2012 10:44:53 GMT -8
Not to divert attention from Dane's question... Langdale always sort of reminds me of what Horseshoe Bay was like back in the late 80's/early 90's. Not much in the way of accomodation for foot passengers as in no heated walkways leading to the berth and of course no overhead walkway. There is at least an enclosed waiting room to sit in. From what I remember at Horseshoe Bay, I think there was only a bus shelter type of place to sit in right up until around 1996 or so. Pretty ironic since Horseshoe Bay and surrounding Howe Sound areas recieve a fair bit of rain at this time of year, more so than most areas of the South Coast at least. Yet, it seems like there was almost always enclosed walkways and waiting rooms at Sunny Tsawwassen. Route 3 is just a bit of a strange route altogether as well. Deckhands don't even earn Sea time on that run as it's in sheltered waters of course. Yet the vessels running there are much larger than ships like the North Island Princess, or Tenaka, etc which sail Near Coastal Voyages. Very much in agreement with Chris. Route 3 is quite unique... well, first of all, we don't belong to a specific route group in BCFS documents. We have a large ship capable of doing cross-strait voyages. Why? Likely has to do with demand. Route 3 is 3rd on the chart when it comes to capacity utilization, and we have a large number of walk-ons. Virtually every sports team on the Sunshine Coast uses the ferry, so they likely fill more than one car. So, to Cowichan-ize or to not Cowichan-ize route 3? I would, because the passenger areas feel so much more spacious. The Surrey can feel quite crowded on a busy sailing, even with those extra seats at each end. Plus it's a relatively short sailing compared to route 2. But then again, Sunshine Coasters fell in love with the Queen of Surrey since she came to this route in 1996. Now back to the topic... And yes, it does surprise me that we don't have an enclosed walkway from the drop off area to the berth. Until recently, you had to arrive early (before the ship docks) to cross the berth's unloading path if you wanted any kind of shelter. A bus like shelter was built in the berth 1 waiting area for those who arrive after the ship docks (I don't remember when it was built but it was after the surrey's MLU). And to this day, you still do have to arrive early if you want to wait in the heated building. I'm guessing the terminal building was built at the same time berth 1 was double-decked (1984)? To your question, Dane... I don't think they do anymore, no matter the load. Either way, most of the Coquitlam's sailings require use of the UCD. On another note - On Saturdays in the summer, when the Surrey's Langdale/HSB 1305/1415 trip is cancelled, not once have I seen (in real life and on Current Conditions) the Coquitlam depart HSB at 1335 with less than a 90% load. So the Coquitlam unloads at berth 1, then reverses out of berth 1, then docks in berth 2. This is done so the bridge crews don't have to switch to the other wheelhouse during the procedure.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 17, 2012 11:27:16 GMT -8
Route 3 is quite unique... well, first of all, we don't belong to a specific route group in BCFS documents. We have a large ship capable of doing cross-strait voyages. Why? Likely has to do with demand. Route 3 is 3rd on the chart when it comes to capacity utilization, and we have a large number of walk-ons. Virtually every sports team on the Sunshine Coast uses the ferry, so they likely fill more than one car. During 2012, BCFerries got the classification of Route-3 changed, so it is now part of the "Major routes" group. - this was finalized in the Performance Term #3 agreement, dated April 1, 2012. The majors group is now: 1, 2, 30 & 3. The main purpose of this was regarding Federal subsidy funding. If route-3 was still non-major, it would need to share some of the federal subsidy. With route-3 moved to the no-subsidy major group, it's old share of the federal subsidy can be moved and reallocated amongst the more needy minor routes, thereby reducing the shortfall on minor routes which would otherwise be covered by fare tariffs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2012 16:29:44 GMT -8
Route 3 is quite unique... well, first of all, we don't belong to a specific route group in BCFS documents. We have a large ship capable of doing cross-strait voyages. Why? Likely has to do with demand. Route 3 is 3rd on the chart when it comes to capacity utilization, and we have a large number of walk-ons. Virtually every sports team on the Sunshine Coast uses the ferry, so they likely fill more than one car. During 2012, BCFerries got the classification of Route-3 changed, so it is now part of the "Major routes" group. - this was finalized in the Performance Term #3 agreement, dated April 1, 2012. The majors group is now: 1, 2, 30 & 3. The main purpose of this was regarding Federal subsidy funding. If route-3 was still non-major, it would need to share some of the federal subsidy. With route-3 moved to the no-subsidy major group, it's old share of the federal subsidy can be moved and reallocated amongst the more needy minor routes, thereby reducing the shortfall on minor routes which would otherwise be covered by fare tariffs. Page 70 (of the entire PDF) of the performance term 3-agreement, finalized on 06-30-2012, shows route 3 as its own route group.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 17, 2012 17:30:31 GMT -8
Page 70 (of the entire PDF) of the performance term 3-agreement, finalized on 06-30-2012, shows route 3 as its own route group. Legal documents are so much fun.... Page 4 of the PDF is section 3.8 (a) (1) of the Performance Term 3 Agreement. - this is the amendment, and it refers to the original Coastal Ferries Services Contract Schedule-A which is shown on Page 70. ----------------------- ps: this is the legal doc that both myself and Julien are referring to: www.bcferrycommission.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/CoastalFerryServicesContract120401Amendments.pdfLet me try to explain: - There are 2 different documents in this same PDF. - The top part is the Performance Term 3 agreement. Part of this agreement, is to do amendments to the OTHER agreement (the Coastal Ferry Services Contract). This is noted on Page 3, item #3, header, that this section of the term-3 agreement is now about the changes to the Coastal Ferry Services Contract. The header for Section #3.8 on page 4 makes it clear that the 3.8 (a) (1) item is concerning the Schedule A of that other contract (the schedule that Julien saw). In these types of agreements, when they make changes, they don't go back and change the original contract, and they don't release a fully updated version of it either. Instead, they show both the original, and they show the amendments which were done by that separate term#3 agreement. The Term #3 agreement ends on Page 13 of that PDF. - page #15-73 of this PDF then shows Appendix 1 which is excerpts from the ORIGINAL Coastal Ferry Services Contact, which, as I've explained above, is still shown in original form. So to read the chart on page #70 of this document, you need to understand that page #70 is part of the original Coastal Ferries Services Contact, and that Page #4 of the PDF is part of the Performance Term #3 Agreement. - And that the item on Page #4 Amends the item on Page #70. Wow, that was a fun analysis. Thanks for prompting that Julien. I learned a few things.
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Post by Curtis on May 7, 2013 19:13:40 GMT -8
Photos of Langdale Terminal from May 2 nd, 2013. Warning: Photo Heavy!All Photos are © CS16 Photography and may only be used with Permission from the Owner.Queen of Surrey Unloading at Berth 2 Langdale by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Queen of Surrey Unloading at Berth 2 Langdale by CS16 Photography, on Flickr The "Prepare to Stop when Amber Flashing" Sign that is usually on the Langdale Ramp taken down for Berth 1 Maintenance. Prepare to Stop When Amber Flashing Sign Langdale by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Taken as I was Boarding. Boarding the Queen of Surrey at Langdale Berth 2 by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Boarding the Queen of Surrey at Langdale Berth 2 by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Holding Area. Langdale Holding Area by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Loading Berth 2 Langdale by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Berth 2 Langdale by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Berth 2 Langdale by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Ready for Departure. Berth 2 Langdale by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Departing. Departing Berth 2 Langdale by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Departing Berth 2 Langdale by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Langdale Terminal by CS16 Photography, on Flickr That's All For Now.
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Post by Curtis on May 8, 2013 11:12:06 GMT -8
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Post by Curtis on May 24, 2013 10:52:40 GMT -8
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