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Post by dofd on Jun 3, 2011 22:27:37 GMT -8
Game 2! Being a downtown resident, they say that the game on saturday could draw 300,000 people downtown. I think that might be high, but then again, it is a reason for everyone to party.
I noticed in the last few days that more and more police cars showing up. I live in a area where you never saw police, now it is daily and in force.
GO CANUCKS GO!
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Post by Neil on Jun 8, 2011 21:31:42 GMT -8
What a colossal meltdown Monday and tonight. The Sedins ineffective, the defense spotty (anyone think we'll see Ballard on Friday?), Luongo at 78%, and the forwards making Thomas look like Georges Vezina by telegraphing every shot into his midsection or his glove.
Not to mention temper tantrums worthy of junior B, on both sides.
Taking into account the fact that the Canucks won games one and two by the slimmest of margins, both in play and in goals, tonight's game could very easily have been the fourth win in a Boston sweep.
Boston looks tougher, faster, more skilled, and decidedly better in goal. The Canucks have come back before, but at this point, their reputation is very much at stake, and they look thoroughly rattled.
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Post by mrdot on Jun 8, 2011 21:52:10 GMT -8
:)maybe this is what the nucks, need, Niel to write them off, and they will again surprise, but it's nail biteing time, not fingers! I think I had better stick to shipwatchin, and leave the good ol hockey game to stompin tom! Maybe it was a bit presumptus for the folks downtown to turn on the olympic flame again, and it's time for the olympic shrink wraps to come off the germanic wonderboats! :)mrdot.
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Post by Neil on Jun 13, 2011 21:21:36 GMT -8
Boston deserves the Stanley Cup. It's one thing to wear the fan blinders, it's another thing to recognize that the Bruins have been by far the dominant team in this series. This may be the most one sided 3-3 final deadlock in history.
The three Canuck victories have been by a hair's breadth- one opportunity converted for the advantage. The three Bruin victories have been embarrassments. 8-1. 4-0. And tonight, the fastest four goals in finals history. The Canucks played the first period without composure, poise... and, perhaps, even courage. It looked for a while like the refs would need to invoke the mercy rule they have in kids baseball when one team is smoking the other.
Deja vu, again. The goaltending is so one sided it's ludicrous. Vancouver's power play is something like one for twenty. Tim Thomas sees 75% of the shots fired at him, and clearly. The Sedins, so effective on a rainy November night against Columbus, are not up to the hyper intensity of June hockey, and are playing second and third fiddle to a new teammate culled from the castoff bin of the Anaheim Ducks in March. Tonight the whole team was out hit by a huge margin. They've been outscored 17-3 in Boston; surely another playoff record, and they've held the lead in the whole series for something like 32 minutes, while the Bruins have held it for in excess of 160.
There's regular season excellence, and playoff excellence. They're almost two completely different games, with different skillsets. The Canucks have mastered the first, and credit to them for that. Boston appears to have the talent and determination and effort level to win the latter, and if the Canucks are fortunate enough to squeak out another narrow win on Wednesday, it will be tremendously unfair to the Bruins. Only a big, convincing Vancouver victory will make the Stanley Cup rightfully theirs.
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Post by mrdot on Jun 13, 2011 22:56:02 GMT -8
:)you know I should stick to the shipping news, and compliment my brother for submiting those old impressions of Esquimalt which he has submitmited, but as for those nucks, they may still prevail, and it just might rite the wrong of the last time they came this close, and probably should have beaten the rangers, when they were probably less lucky, than they have been this time around, this may be the last chance they will have in my lifetime! :)mrdot.
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Post by Scott on Jun 14, 2011 6:33:23 GMT -8
You make some good points, Neil, but I think a 7 game series is pretty fair in determining who deserves it most. I can see an unfair winner coming out of a "one-game-takes-all" scenario like the Olympics or maybe even a best of 3, but a best of 7 is hard to win if you're not the best team. And for the team and players to get this far in the playoffs, having beaten three good teams already, I think that they've already proven that they can get it done in the playoffs. The past week sure has been disappointing though.
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Post by Neil on Jun 14, 2011 10:04:42 GMT -8
You make some good points, Neil, but I think a 7 game series is pretty fair in determining who deserves it most. I can see an unfair winner coming out of a "one-game-takes-all" scenario like the Olympics or maybe even a best of 3, but a best of 7 is hard to win if you're not the best team. And for the team and players to get this far in the playoffs, having beaten three good teams already, I think that they've already proven that they can get it done in the playoffs. The past week sure has been disappointing though. Perhaps you're right. If the Canucks win tomorrow, there'll be no asterisk beside their name on the Stanley Cup saying, 'lost 17-3 in Boston'. Still, the nature of those losses, as well as the two blow outs to Chicago, have taken some of the lustre off what was a pretty spectacular season, and if the Bruins prevail, no one outside the Canucks most loyal fan base will be able to say they weren't full value for their win. I guess it should be consolation to mrdot that no matter what happens, this team is still, for the most part, in their prime, and can definitely challenge again for the Cup with this set of players, although clearly they need upgrades in some positions.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 14, 2011 11:36:15 GMT -8
For those interested in learning first-aid or health-and-safety procedures, apparently this is how you are supposed to handle a patient with a serious spinal injury: Can you say "Lawsuit" ? (I hope that Mason makes a full recovery for life)
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Post by Neil on Jun 14, 2011 12:56:17 GMT -8
For those interested in learning first-aid or health-and-safety procedures, apparently this is how you are supposed to handle a patient with a serious spinal injury: Can you say "Lawsuit" ? (I hope that Mason makes a full recovery for life) There's a tremendous amount of violence and very questionable health and safety practises that take place in the context of a hockey game that would never be tolerated in other workplaces, or on the street. Buffoons like Don Cherry, Mike Milbury and others defend it as being part of our essentially Canadian hockey culture, and hockey employers take advantage of the highly competitive nature of their employees to send them out injured, and marinated in pain killers, when in other work situations there would be no question about the need to take time off to recover. It's not always all that civilized, and sometimes you have to turn your brain and your conscience off to be a true fan of it all.
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Post by Neil on Jun 14, 2011 13:24:28 GMT -8
Hockey sport is not the same environment as a workplace. If people don't like the rush 'em, bash 'em into the boards style of Canadian hockey, there's always Disney on Ice to watch. The players know what they are getting into when they sign the contract. Some of the roughness needs to be toned down, but hockey by nature is a physical sport. The Canucks/Boston series has been noticeably rough, more so than the Sharks, Preds series, and certainly more than regular season. What would Canadians watch other than hockey? U.S. baseball? I saw a game at Dodgers Stadium (Dodgers vs. Padres). It was boring. Well said, Don. Nice suit.
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Post by mrdot on Jun 15, 2011 18:50:44 GMT -8
:'(well I am a little sad, as I may not see a Cannuck Stanley cup in my lifetime, but I have to admit that the best team is winning this time around on a brighter note, those pics. from yesteryear, I snapped of a majestic Q. of Esquimalt forging her way through Active Pass, in her youthful years, with a smarter trim to boot, give a cheery rememberance to a sorry looking derelect being towed away to a Mexican boneyard! :)mrdot.
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Post by Scott on Jun 15, 2011 19:01:01 GMT -8
BC Ferries must be happy having their logo behind the Stanley Cup every time it's hoisted!
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Post by Neil on Jun 15, 2011 19:13:12 GMT -8
Pretty disheartening. It wasn't really even close- the game had a sense of inevitability after the first Boston goal, and they were clearer better in every aspect. It wasn't a matter of a few bounces or random plays.
If the Canucks go with exactly the same makeup next season, they'll fall short again, at least in the hyper intense atmosphere of the playoffs. This team is built to excel in the regular season.
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Post by mrdot on Jun 15, 2011 19:22:25 GMT -8
:)linking Boston Bruins cup victory to BCferries slug logo promo, is kindof like linking linking FSG to life on the this coast! almost as hollow a feeling as this cup dissapointment! again I lift my spirts vueing some of these old vintage pics. I am sifting thru. at the moment! :)mrdot.
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Post by Mike on Jun 15, 2011 19:26:12 GMT -8
Well, the rioting has started...
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Post by FNS on Jun 15, 2011 19:27:52 GMT -8
Pretty disheartening. It wasn't really even close- the game had a sense of inevitability after the first Boston goal, and they were clearer better in every aspect. It wasn't a matter of a few bounces or random plays. If the Canucks go with exactly the same makeup next season, they'll fall short again, at least in the hyper intense atmosphere of the playoffs. This team is built to excel in the regular season. I agree. Some work will need to be done in the Canucks organization to eventually bring the Cup to Vancouver. Thanks for a good season, Vancouver Canucks.
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 15, 2011 19:52:35 GMT -8
"May the best team win"
and they did!
Better luck next year to the Canucks.
Now hopefully the people of Vancouver and beyond in Super Natural BC can move on and talk about something other than hockey.
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Post by Balfour on Jun 15, 2011 20:32:49 GMT -8
I'd like to make the point that the rioters are NOT true hockey fans. They are f**k**g morons who started following the team at the start of the Stanley Cup Final series. Honestly it's just a game, there's always next year.
Pardon my french but I think the F-word is justified to describe just how disgusting the situation downtown really is...
Now, we have the core of this team locked for a number of years and they have learned from this experience. I think they will come back next season hungrier than ever. I believe they have another good chance next year.
Cheers,
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Post by FNS on Jun 15, 2011 20:38:51 GMT -8
"Now hopefully the people of Vancouver and beyond in Super Natural BC can move on and talk about something other than hockey. Like why the sky is blue, how beautiful the mountains and flowers are, the birds, the bees (OUCH!), the wildlife, all the things we have to enjoy here on the coast. And ferryboats, too (can't leave this out of this forum)!
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Post by Curtis on Jun 15, 2011 21:07:38 GMT -8
I am upset that we fell short. At the same time though, I can't help but respect Boston for putting up a good fight. It's sad to see what is emerging in Downtown right now considering it was hardly a close decision tonight. Who would have thought a season with so much promise could have such a terrible ending. I agree with Jordan, both on the Rioters and on moving onto next Season. Why couldn't these fans be like the ones in Rogers Arena giving respect to our Team and Respecting the Champions. We've had a great season, Best Record, West Champions, 2 Art Ross Winning Players, a Hart Winner and Nominee, a 3rd Time Selke Nominee, a Jack Adams Winner and Nominee, and the Nominee for GM of the Year. The only Question left now is, what can we do to make us Better? I'd say more, but I have a date with my Razor that is long due. Back to Reality, Time to Focus on my Other Interests... Specially since the NIP is as dysfunctional as the Canucks right now.
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Post by Kam on Jun 15, 2011 21:19:45 GMT -8
Lets hope that the last sailings back are without event....
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Post by FNS on Jun 15, 2011 21:46:31 GMT -8
I agree with Jordan, both on the Rioters and on moving onto next Season. Why couldn't these fans be like the ones in Rogers Arena giving respect to our Team and Respecting the Champions. We've had a great season, Best Record, West Champions, 2 Art Ross Winning Players, a Hart Winner and Nominee, a 3rd Time Selke Nominee, a Jack Adams Winner and Nominee, and the Nominee for GM of the Year. The only Question left now is, what can we do to make us Better? I'd say more, but I have a date with my Razor that is long due. I also agree with Jordan. This is why I have the news turned off. What's said of the past may have sparked a new generation of . Now, with the beards coming off from some who choose to do so, I just wonder how many players would think of putting their facial hair up for bids in auctions to raise money for charity? Just a thought.
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Post by lmtengs on Jun 15, 2011 21:56:27 GMT -8
I was there until about 45 minutes ago. i'll elaborate and post some of the cleaner images tomorrow.
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Post by Neil on Jun 15, 2011 22:24:29 GMT -8
Too disgusting for words. Unbelievable. This wasn't just a few people, either, and there are hordes standing around with their phones and cameras like it's a frigging reality show that they're a part of.
Christy Clark said a couple of days ago that the province wouldn't help Vancouver out with policing because it was a municipal responsibility, but that they would contribute to a Canucks victory parade. So Vancouver is left to deal with every drunken boy-pig from all over the metropolitan area.
Next Stanley Cup final, what is required is a virtual police occupation of downtown Vancouver. No liquor sales at all on the day of game, and no big screen gathering points. We've proven that there are too many stupid, violent young males among us for any other approach.
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Post by Mill Bay on Jun 16, 2011 9:31:59 GMT -8
Normally, I shouldn't respond to heated debates like this, for everyone's best interests, but I am watching videos of the riots right now, and the level of violence is unfathomable. These people have ruined it for all of us, and I am disappointed to the level that I can say, unequivocably, may it be another 40 years before this city ever gets close to a Stanley Cup, because we clearly aren't civilized to even have it in our city, no matter who won it. I can imagine, even if we had won it here, the victory celebrations might also have been simply a cover for mindless violence by some people.
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