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Post by maximase86 on May 8, 2015 16:02:59 GMT -8
Q13 reported that the Tacoma broke down again.
Just saw an alert on the ferry website:
Friday, May 08, 2015 04:45 PM
Sea/BI - Tacoma Out Of Service The Tacoma is out of service due to necessary repairs. This will cancel the 4:40pm and 6:20pm sailing from Seattle and the 5:30pm and 7:10pm sailing from Bainbridge Island. Updates will occur as conditions change.
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Post by maximase86 on May 8, 2015 16:11:15 GMT -8
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Post by whitieiii on May 8, 2015 17:04:38 GMT -8
Also isn't the Puyallup in at Eagle Harbor? if it's just parked it would be the time to unpark it.... flip it's maintinance scedules
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Post by zargoman on May 8, 2015 18:31:32 GMT -8
The Puyallup is having maintenance done. I do not think that they can't just stop the work and put her into service. I don't know the details, but if it's like the Wenatchee, there is work being done on the engines and/or motors that make the boat move. They have to do sea trials and be approved by the coast guard in able for her to return to service.
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Post by R30A on May 8, 2015 18:42:39 GMT -8
The current applicable service alerts are as follows:
Sea/BI - Issaquah In Service At Seattle/Bainbridge Island The 124 car Issaquah will make a late 6:20pm sailing from Seattle and a late 7:10pm from Bainbridge Island. Expect some delays. Updates will occur as conditions change.
Fa/Va/So - Downsizing Update For This Weekend Washington State Ferries wishes to apologize for the downsizing you experienced this evening, May 8, when the Tacoma went out of service on the Bainbridge route and we moved the Issaquah to provide needed service. We understand that it is Mother’s Day weekend, a very special time, and we will return to three boat service on this route as quickly as possible. If the Tacoma is not repaired, we will use the Evergreen State as the third boat on the Fauntleroy/Vashon/Southworth route so Mother’s Day plans can be kept.
Fa/Va/So - Two Boat Service The Fauntleroy/Vashon/Southworth route will go to a two boat service at approximately 6:00pm. The Issaquah will be on the Seattle/Bainbridge Island route until further notice. Updates will occur when conditions change. Check website for Two Boat Schedule
So if the Tacoma is not quickly fixed, Evergreen State will end up on the Triangle. Perhaps if repair is not immediate the Issaquah might swap with the Kaleetan or an Edmonds Jumbo to lessen the blow to Bainbridge?
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Post by zargoman on May 8, 2015 18:47:29 GMT -8
I think that the best case would to have the Spokane or Walla Walla move to Bainbridge, the Kaleetan to Kingston, Issaquah or Cathlamet to Bremerton and Evergreen State to Vashon. We'll see how it goes.
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Post by zargoman on May 8, 2015 18:49:35 GMT -8
The Yakima is also out of service at Eagle Harbor. I'm sure that she is in the same situation as the Puyallup, where as she can't go into service without having operating equipment put back into place and sea trials done.
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Post by whitieiii on May 8, 2015 20:05:11 GMT -8
oh... that's true.... I'm dumb somtimes... the Double W will be the one to move... the Spokane never moved to another run as a fill in, well not in my lifetime as far as I can remember.... maybe the Tokitae will replace her here at Kingston as that seems to be what happenes 9 times out of 10 but if not I will expect the Hyak as the Yakima is also getting work done
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Post by Kahloke on May 8, 2015 20:10:48 GMT -8
but if not I will expect the Hyak as the Yakima is also getting work done Not likely. Hyak is up at Anacortes as the #2 vessel. It is very much needed in the islands right now.
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Post by whitieiii on May 8, 2015 20:12:42 GMT -8
ok.... I think it will be the Tokitae but if i'm wrong then I am
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Post by R30A on May 8, 2015 20:41:42 GMT -8
I'd rather doubt that the Tokitae would move from its run. No real reason to involve Mukilteo-Clinton. Assuming the Tacoma isn't quickly fixed (Not a safe assumption by any means) I see 4 possibilities(each has the Evergreen State on FVS): 1. Issaquah stays on Bainbridge run. (No changes) 2. Issaquah goes to Bremerton, Kaleetan goes to Bainbridge. 3. Issaquah goes to Kingston, Walla Walla goes to Bainbridge. 4. Issaquah goes to BRemerton, Kaleetan to Kingston, Walla Walla to Bainbridge.
I sort of suspect 2 or 3 is the sweet spot with regards to both minimizing vessel transfers and keeping each line reasonably in line with desired capacity.
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Post by SS San Mateo on May 8, 2015 20:43:03 GMT -8
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Post by whitieiii on May 8, 2015 22:12:22 GMT -8
I'd rather doubt that the Tokitae would move from its run. No real reason to involve Mukilteo-Clinton. Assuming the Tacoma isn't quickly fixed (Not a safe assumption by any means) I see 4 possibilities(each has the Evergreen State on FVS): 1. Issaquah stays on Bainbridge run. (No changes) 2. Issaquah goes to Bremerton, Kaleetan goes to Bainbridge. 3. Issaquah goes to Kingston, Walla Walla goes to Bainbridge. 4. Issaquah goes to BRemerton, Kaleetan to Kingston, Walla Walla to Bainbridge. I sort of suspect 2 or 3 is the sweet spot with regards to both minimizing vessel transfers and keeping each line reasonably in line with desired capacity. i'm gonna guess 3 or 4 will be the case as that will give them a bigger ferry both auto and pass to the island from seattle
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Post by SS San Mateo on May 9, 2015 8:25:30 GMT -8
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Post by SS San Mateo on May 9, 2015 15:17:45 GMT -8
Good news:
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Post by zargoman on May 9, 2015 16:24:07 GMT -8
This is the first time that I have seen the Tacoma's starboard side in a while. Looks awful (reminds me of the Puyallup when she was covered with rust on the starboard (north facing) side.). Untitled by Zack Heistand, on Flickr
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Post by zargoman on May 9, 2015 16:28:00 GMT -8
oh... that's true.... I'm dumb somtimes... the Double W will be the one to move... the Spokane never moved to another run as a fill in, well not in my lifetime as far as I can remember.... maybe the Tokitae will replace her here at Kingston as that seems to be what happenes 9 times out of 10 but if not I will expect the Hyak as the Yakima is also getting work done Once...I have seen it once. Spokane went to Bremerton in 2007 when the Hood Canal Bridge was shut down. If this had turned out to be long-term, I would have expected to see the Issaquah move to Bremerton, Kaleetan to Kingston and Walla Walla to Bainbridge. As previously stated, it would have the lowest overall impact to passengers. Spokane by Zack Heistand, on Flickr Anyways, we don't have to worry about it, as the Tacoma has returned.
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Post by maximase86 on May 9, 2015 21:39:22 GMT -8
Any word on what the issue was?
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Post by whitieiii on May 9, 2015 22:18:09 GMT -8
oh... that's true.... I'm dumb somtimes... the Double W will be the one to move... the Spokane never moved to another run as a fill in, well not in my lifetime as far as I can remember.... maybe the Tokitae will replace her here at Kingston as that seems to be what happenes 9 times out of 10 but if not I will expect the Hyak as the Yakima is also getting work done Once...I have seen it once. Spokane went to Bremerton in 2007 when the Hood Canal Bridge was shut down. If this had turned out to be long-term, I would have expected to see the Issaquah move to Bremerton, Kaleetan to Kingston and Walla Walla to Bainbridge. As previously stated, it would have the lowest overall impact to passengers. Spokane by Zack Heistand, on Flickr Anyways, we don't have to worry about it, as the Tacoma has returned. i stand corrected.... and I mean I didn't think it changed routes since the Puyallup went online but I was too young to remember those things
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Post by zargoman on May 30, 2015 16:25:50 GMT -8
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Post by zargoman on May 30, 2015 16:44:05 GMT -8
Tacoma and Wenatchee at Bainbridge this morning. The Tacoma was the #2 boat today and did not enter service until the 07:55 run. The Wenatchee was the #1 boat and had just arrived from Seattle.
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Post by crashlament on Jun 9, 2015 7:26:59 GMT -8
WSF has been making a few idiodic dicisions this summer and this is one. The Tacoma is a very critical vessel and Edmonds/Kingston has been missing their Mark II (Puyallup) for nearly a year now. I understand that the Tacoma could use some serious paint, but it would have a better outcome if the Tacoma, a Mark II were painted in the off season instead and serving the Bainbridge run with Wenatchee.
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Post by EGfleet on Jun 9, 2015 13:12:26 GMT -8
WSF has been making a few idiodic dicisions this summer and this is one. The Tacoma is a very critical vessel and Edmonds/Kingston has been missing their Mark II (Puyallup) for nearly a year now. I understand that the Tacoma could use some serious paint, but it would have a better outcome if the Tacoma, a Mark II were painted in the off season instead and serving the Bainbridge run with Wenatchee. As Vigor is the only shipyard large enough to drydock the Mark II's, the state pretty much has to take whatever drydock time is available to them according to what is going on at the yard. I'm sure they would have preferred to have the Tacoma out at a slower time of year, but this is likely the only time the work could be done.
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Post by Barnacle on Jun 9, 2015 17:07:17 GMT -8
WSF has been making a few idiodic dicisions this summer and this is one. The Tacoma is a very critical vessel and Edmonds/Kingston has been missing their Mark II (Puyallup) for nearly a year now. I understand that the Tacoma could use some serious paint, but it would have a better outcome if the Tacoma, a Mark II were painted in the off season instead and serving the Bainbridge run with Wenatchee. I've seen some pretty unspectacular results in off-season paint jobs, especially the Yakima's paint that was applied in February some years ago. Came off in sheets within months. Granted, I think they work harder at making that NOT happen, but still. And like EGFleet said, Vigor is available when Vigor's available. Sometimes this board forgets that there is more to the planning than "they oughta."
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Post by northwesterner on Jun 13, 2015 8:50:37 GMT -8
WSF has been making a few idiodic dicisions this summer and this is one. The Tacoma is a very critical vessel and Edmonds/Kingston has been missing their Mark II (Puyallup) for nearly a year now. I understand that the Tacoma could use some serious paint, but it would have a better outcome if the Tacoma, a Mark II were painted in the off season instead and serving the Bainbridge run with Wenatchee. I've seen some pretty unspectacular results in off-season paint jobs, especially the Yakima's paint that was applied in February some years ago. Came off in sheets within months. Granted, I think they work harder at making that NOT happen, but still. And like EGFleet said, Vigor is available when Vigor's available. Sometimes this board forgets that there is more to the planning than "they oughta." I'm with Barnacle here. Sending the Tacoma to dry dock right now is not ideal, but could be the only time available to have the work done within the constraints of the other mechanical work that has to happen with her out of the water. Didn't we send one of the Jumbo Mark IIs up to Vancouver a few years ago for dry docking specifically because Vigor could not accommodate? Finally, it is most critical that Edmonds-Kingston has at least two Jumbos in the summer time. Having the Puyallup there is icing on the cake from a capacity perspective, but the handful of extra cars isn't totally critical. It would be a disaster if a Super had to run there all summer.
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