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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Mar 7, 2016 18:32:00 GMT -8
It's been postponed: No mention on which vessel needs repairs. The Chetzemoka. The Salish is now on Point Defiance-Tahlequah.
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Post by R30A on Mar 8, 2016 9:50:33 GMT -8
The Salish has been there for a while now though. Repairs makes it sound like something else is about to drop out of service for a bit.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Mar 8, 2016 14:32:42 GMT -8
The Salish has been there for a while now though. Repairs makes it sound like something else is about to drop out of service for a bit. That's what I thought. I couldn't remember when the Chetzemoka was supposed to return to service. I'm guessing something happened and the Salish stays on the Tahlequah - Pt. Defiance route.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Apr 30, 2016 7:00:42 GMT -8
So the Salish will be in drydock for the first part of the spring schedule, leaving one boat service in place for an extra 3 weeks. She has rudder problems.
Can it be described as rudder flop or did she hit something while in service.
Another question. Yes it is supposedly for only 3 weeks but why not shift vessels around and put the Tilly down at Talequah and bring the Chetzy up to fill in for the three weeks? That way, the schedule could have stayed the same.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Apr 30, 2016 7:26:43 GMT -8
Another question. Yes it is supposedly for only 3 weeks but why not shift vessels around and put the Tilly down at Talequah and bring the Chetzy up to fill in for the three weeks? That way, the schedule could have stayed the same. According to the most recent maintenance (04/20) schedule, the Tillikum replaces the Issaquah (drydocking) the week of 04/09. So that would not be an option (unless the Hiyu could be pressed into service).
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Post by sounder on Apr 30, 2016 14:58:35 GMT -8
Another question. Yes it is supposedly for only 3 weeks but why not shift vessels around and put the Tilly down at Talequah and bring the Chetzy up to fill in for the three weeks? That way, the schedule could have stayed the same. According to the most recent maintenance (04/20) schedule, the Tillikum replaces the Issaquah (drydocking) the week of 04/09. So that would not be an option (unless the Hiyu could be pressed into service). If I remember correctly, both the Tillikum and Klahowya both have had issues trying to fill in at Tahlequah with trying to run the boats at the constant 8-9 knot service speed on that route. Aside from the maintenance schedule if the Chetzy went to Pt. Townsend; the Sealth has been used at Tahlequah and worked pretty well. The Evergreen State before her retirement also was able to handle the reduced service speed. Of course the mighty Hiyu used to live on that route.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Sept 1, 2016 16:40:52 GMT -8
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Post by R30A on Mar 7, 2017 20:19:16 GMT -8
Was up in the San Juans yesterday. Was hoping to get a photo of the Salish at Friday Harbor. Got set up at the end of the pier about 10 minutes before departure. Then a downpour started. I was not pleased. Then a minute before the Salish left, the rain stopped! salisgfhbanner by Lincoln McMahon, on Flickr
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Mar 8, 2017 14:44:50 GMT -8
Was up in the San Juans yesterday. Was hoping to get a photo of the Salish at Friday Harbor. Got set up at the end of the pier about 10 minutes before departure. Then a downpour started. I was not pleased. Then a minute before the Salish left, the rain stopped! salisgfhbanner by Lincoln McMahon, on Flickr The faint rainbow across the shot above the Salish is really pretty. Nice shot! Friday Harbor is always great for photos.
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Post by rusty on Sept 25, 2017 9:59:53 GMT -8
It's now well into the second month of the Salish's repair. Any news on when she is to return to service?
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Sept 27, 2017 17:53:33 GMT -8
It is so close to the end of the two boat season, that maybe she will not return. October 9th is the last day of what was supposed to be the two boat schedule.
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Post by spokaneferry on Sept 28, 2017 15:17:30 GMT -8
Just saw that Salish showed up on VesselWatch in Eagle Harbor today, so I'm curious if it's about to come back.
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Post by hergfest on Sept 29, 2017 19:46:10 GMT -8
WSF Twitter said she was doing Sea Trials today.
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Post by chokai on Oct 2, 2017 15:08:12 GMT -8
Neat video of Salish arriving at Keystone Harbor during somewhat inclement weather.
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 14, 2017 6:36:26 GMT -8
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Post by northwesterner on Nov 14, 2017 18:48:44 GMT -8
It was rare for the steel electrics to cancel runs on this route due to bad weather - though it did happen. I wonder how the KDTs handle in comparison...
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 3, 2017 18:53:23 GMT -8
It was rare for the steel electrics to cancel runs on this route due to bad weather - though it did happen. I wonder how the KDTs handle in comparison... I didn't think there was any real difference, once the PT-Keystone gang got a good feel for their boats. Of course, I have no statistics to back my belief up.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Dec 4, 2017 19:58:21 GMT -8
In my opinion, the Steels were a better foul-weather boat, hands down. I can remember many crossings of my youth from Vashon to Fauntleroy in very bad weather, on a Steel Electric, Wood Electric or an Evergreen class boat. Yes, a completely different route, sheltered and all but in the worst of storms, a wild ride. But back in 2001, February to be exact, I rode a Steel from Pt. Townsend to Keystone. My car was 3/4 of the way back on the boat, center lane and the weather was so bad that huge rollers made the Klickitat bob like a tub-toy. I vividly remember seeing the bottom of a roller then seeing the sky and back, plus watching sea water flow 1/2 way back on the auto deck. This lasted for most of the ride across Admiralty Inlet and the run was shut down afterwards.
I seriously doubt that the Salish could handle any weather like that, the hull design is too flat. Looking back on it, WSF should have never attempted crossing the Inlet that day.
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Post by rusty on Dec 11, 2017 16:28:35 GMT -8
The Steels had a double flare in the bows.The KdT's pretty much go out horizontal to meet the car deck. When short fetch wave height gets high enough it pounds that part of the hull like a drum, so much so that you think the boat will disintegrate (it isn't though). Also with the KtD's higher, wider passenger cabins the rolling is accentuated and that can be a hazard to the public. Besides, nobody wants a crossing to feel like a death defying event.
To me, overall, they seem to make about the same amount of crossings as the Klickitat (the other Steels though were not as capable heavy weather boats). On particularly rough days the KdT's don't make as many runs -- thankfully.
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Post by PNW_ferrynerd on Sept 11, 2018 21:54:03 GMT -8
So what happend with the Salish the other day? Steering Problems
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Post by Kahloke on Sept 14, 2018 13:28:24 GMT -8
According to today's WSF Weekly Update, Salish is likely to be out for a minimum of 4 weeks, and because there are no replacement vessels that would allow Chetzemoka to be kicked loose from Point Defiance to come north and help out, Kennewick will soldier on as the lone vessel at PT-KEY for the remainder of the peak season. I'm afraid two vessel service at PT-KEY is finished until next May. The weekly update has a good photo of Salish's bent rudder. www.wsdot.wa.gov/NR/rdonlyres/105768E1-30AA-4CC4-9FE2-AF7DD36B3258/125372/WSFWeeklyUpdate091418.pdf
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 14, 2018 21:13:02 GMT -8
Question: Would it be possible, in a pinch, for WSF to temporarily operate a double-ended ferry such as the Salish with damaged steering gear on one end, as a single-ender? I believe that BCF's has done such in similar situations in our end of the Salish Sea.
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Post by Edmondsguy on Sept 15, 2018 10:15:59 GMT -8
Question: Would it be possible, in a pinch, for WSF to temporarily operate a double-ended ferry such as the Salish with damaged steering gear on one end, as a single-ender? I believe that BCF's has done such in similar situations in our end of the Salish Sea. While that has been done many years ago on on some runs like Clinton-Mukileo and Point Defiance-Tahlequah, it is really not something that could be safely done one PT-Keystone (Coupeville). It is also a question of what kind of damage it has and if the rudder is locked in-place so to speak and is it at such a way that it would not be a hazard to so.
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Post by compdude787 on Sept 15, 2018 13:44:03 GMT -8
If the rudder is bent, it seems like this will cause a problem with the ferry constantly having to have its course corrected.
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Post by maximase86 on Sept 15, 2018 22:03:56 GMT -8
This was posted by King5 on youtube. Seems the incident was captured on video.
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