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Post by Olympic Ferries on Nov 8, 2019 11:21:19 GMT -8
The Salish has not operated at FVS in approx. 5 years. The last time she was there it led to frustrated passengers and crew due to the difficulty of turning cars around on the vessel and the 11 knot service speed causing huge delays. The WSF has placed an Oly Class boat a few times on the Triangle the past couple of years but no KDT. It would be easier to reconsider the problems with the two boat schedule currently and readjust it to work with 2 double decker Issaquah Class boats or come up with a temporary 3 boat schedule where the Salish just travels between Southworth - Vashon, Southworth - Fauntleroy or Vashon - Fauntleroy. Straight shots only for the KDT, eliminating the need to turn vehicles around on the car deck. The Salish is only going for one week, and will operate as the #2 vessel during the week and as #3 vessel during the weekend, as of WSF's announcement today. She'll be replaced by the Cathlamet afterwards.
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Post by iceberg1 on Nov 11, 2019 9:26:03 GMT -8
Talk at last week's planning meeting which I attended is the Cathlamet could be delayed due to addition steel work required. If the funding is found, Salish could be on the Triangle longer than a week.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Nov 11, 2019 10:52:34 GMT -8
Talk at last week's planning meeting which I attended is the Cathlamet could be delayed due to addition steel work required. If the funding is found, Salish could be on the Triangle longer than a week. I believe it was my understanding that the Kittitas would replace the Salish instead. She'll be done first.
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Post by iceberg1 on Nov 12, 2019 13:45:03 GMT -8
I believe everything possible will be done to restore FVS to "regular" service and get the Salish out of there. Did not hear Kittitas mentioned but that will work.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Nov 12, 2019 14:14:57 GMT -8
I believe everything possible will be done to restore FVS to "regular" service and get the Salish out of there. Did not hear Kittitas mentioned but that will work. She's due back on the 24th, and personally, I prefer Kittitas to Cathlamet anyways so it sounds like it's going to work out perfectly.
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Post by iceberg1 on Nov 13, 2019 18:10:45 GMT -8
Little birdie flew by today here on the Triangle. If all goes well with the Kittitas sea trials this weekend, she may replace Salish and be ready for Monday 11/18 service. Salish then would head to Port Townsend to relieve the Kennewick. Remember, please don't hate the player, hate the game should this not go down. At the same time, I will stop feeding the little birdie.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Nov 13, 2019 18:24:56 GMT -8
Little birdie flew by today here on the Triangle. If all goes well with the Kittitas sea trials this weekend, she may replace Salish and be ready for Monday 11/18 service. Salish then would head to Port Townsend to relieve the Kennewick. Remember, please don't hate the player, hate the game should this not go down. At the same time, I will stop feeding the little birdie. That's what I was told by WSF this morning when I confirmed that the Cathlamet would not be coming back first as originally anticipated.
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Post by iceberg1 on Nov 14, 2019 11:46:26 GMT -8
Another update, if all goes well during sea trials, the MV Kittitas will be on the Triangle tomorrow for the Friday afternoon commute. The nightmare called Salish will be gone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 17:00:39 GMT -8
I took a ride on the Salish today on the F/V/S route. They weren't having any issues loading her or keeping the schedule with her. The cars they did have to turn around make the maneuver seamlessly. She certainly seems to be doing her duties just fine while on the route this time around. My friend who commutes daily on the Triangle route has been saying the same thing and he's had no issues turning on the cardeck, overloads or missed sailings. She certainly is better than being down to a two boat schedule which really can make for a long commute if the boats get running late as they almost always do.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Nov 14, 2019 17:02:29 GMT -8
Another update, if all goes well during sea trials, the MV Kittitas will be on the Triangle tomorrow for the Friday afternoon commute. The nightmare called Salish will be gone. I asked WSF about 5 minutes ago and just heard it won't be back until next week. Kittitas is not out of the drydock yet, so trials have not even commenced yet. They're on drydock contract through the weekend still.
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Post by iceberg1 on Nov 14, 2019 18:01:21 GMT -8
I have been told that sea trials for Kittitas start after fuel dock tomorrow at 1030 (100,000 gals). Salish engine room crew are to have cars staged at Southworth for quick pick up after boat switch at Vashon before heading to BI tie up slip. Possibly another case here of the WSF office were the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Anyways, I know where my car will be at 0615 Friday morning in anticipation of the boat switch. If it doesn't go down, it will be ready to take me home again at 1900. I hope for all the FVS commuters that the boat switch does happen Friday, returning some smoothness to the route.
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Post by iceberg1 on Nov 15, 2019 14:55:18 GMT -8
The Kittitas has arrived at the Triangle and in service. Friday night commute is going to be much better now.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Nov 15, 2019 17:58:35 GMT -8
The Kittitas has arrived at the Triangle and in service. Friday night commute is going to be much better now. How very uncool since I had active plans to ride it on Sunday. Pretty bad planning ;(
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Nov 15, 2019 19:05:57 GMT -8
How very uncool since I had active plans to ride it on Sunday. Pretty bad planning ;( It was good news to all the route's Friday Evening commuters, and it's good news for everyone who relies on the route... May have been fun to ride the Salish at F-V-S from the ferry-enthusiast standpoint, but having it on the route has been anything but fun for those who rely on the route. And I'm inclined to think that that is a bit more important than a ferry-fan excursion... Having the Kittitas come back early is a change of plan that I think is very welcome.
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Post by Ignacio on Dec 1, 2019 22:09:28 GMT -8
Post Thanksgiving ride in the cool autumn morning.
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Post by withtheferries on Mar 12, 2020 10:46:33 GMT -8
Quick question. When is Salish going back to pt.townsend/coupeville?
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Post by Kahloke on Mar 12, 2020 11:40:47 GMT -8
Quick question. When is Salish going back to pt.townsend/coupeville? Bump to signify that I moved the above post into the Salish thread. As for the question, Salish is the relief vessel for Kennewick and Chetzemoka in the off-season. Currently, Salish is subbing for Chetzy at Point Defiance. Salish has occasionally subbed for other vessels on other routes, like the inter-island ferry in the San Juans for example, but that's usually when nothing else is available - it's not an ideal situation when she's subbing for a larger vessel. In May, Salish will settle in at PT as the #2 boat alongside Kennewick for her seasonal service on that route.
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Post by withtheferries on May 28, 2021 8:13:42 GMT -8
So.. The Salish is at bremerton. To be honest, when i rode it, it was really not that cramped and also all the cars fit. It was also a stormy day and the Salish took the 5 footers quite well, while the Chimacum passing us was taking waves over the bow. Intresting!
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Post by elwharust on Jun 9, 2021 14:31:03 GMT -8
So.. The Salish is at bremerton. To be honest, when i rode it, it was really not that cramped and also all the cars fit. It was also a stormy day and the Salish took the 5 footers quite well, while the Chimacum passing us was taking waves over the bow. Intresting! it's probably because the salish was built mainly for port townsend so it has to be able to handle the big waves like that
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Post by withtheferries on Aug 12, 2021 10:01:34 GMT -8
So.. The Salish is at bremerton. To be honest, when i rode it, it was really not that cramped and also all the cars fit. It was also a stormy day and the Salish took the 5 footers quite well, while the Chimacum passing us was taking waves over the bow. Intresting! it's probably because the salish was built mainly for port townsend so it has to be able to handle the big waves like that That makes sense, Little but very mighty!
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Jun 12, 2022 23:20:53 GMT -8
So, I took my first ferry crossing in over a couple years (last one was at the first couple months of the Covid-19 pandemic) and this time it was on the M.V. Salish. I was the last car to drive onto the ferry, and was parked at No. 1 End close to the stairwell/elevator casing. It was 7:57 a.m. and the scheduled departure was 8 a.m. And I must say, at ten years old, the ol' girl is looking almost as haggard in spots as the venerable M.V. Hyak did some years back when jokes were made about her rust looking like a Staten Island Ferry.... Anyways, it was an uneventful crossing up to Whidbey Island to attend my nephew's graduation at Oak Harbor High School. Well, correction... Almost uneventful... Upon arrival at Keystone Harbor, I did the usual return to the vehicle, start-the-car-as-directed-by-crew thing and all... When I began driving off the ferry I took a pecular notice to how awfully close I was to the bulkhead on the port side of the vessel which held the stairwell casing (as designated by the fact that No. 1 End is the bow and always faces west from what I've learned). I started inching away from it but I had a box truck to my left that kept me from inching further. Within seconds, I heard a large *CRACK* of plastic shearing off my car. The sound was my passenger side door mirror being ripped off by a steel post welded to that bulkhead, just adjacent the elevator shaft. I just bought the car two months ago, but hey.. Had to inaugurate its first trip on a ferry with a need to replace a mirror! LOL (Some have said I should have filed an insurance claim with WSF. I chose not to as I don't think it's necessary to do so for a $30 car part I can buy on eBay, and it's not worth a hit to the insurance rates). After that debacle I drove straight off the ferry and had my mom grab hold of the mirror so it wouldn't get ripped off by driving down and being ripped off by the force of air rushing past it due to driving. I continued my drive to Oak Harbor, attended the graduation ceremony then took my mom up to go see the Deception Pass Bridges, before heading back. (Oh, and I did fix the mirror temporarily by way of good ol' black duct tape, and a new part has already been ordered!) When I arrived back in Keystone Harbor to depart back to the mainland (and thus, begin the 70-mile drive back home), I fired off a series of photos as the ferry was arriving, and a few aboard her. Anyways, onwards to the pics! M.V. Salish, Washington State Ferries by Steven Rosenow, on Flickr This lifering has definitely seen the wear of time over the last ten years. I remember taking a photo of it when it was new! M.V. Salish, Washington State Ferries by Steven Rosenow, on Flickr M.V. Salish, Washington State Ferries by Steven Rosenow, on Flickr M.V. Salish, Washington State Ferries by Steven Rosenow, on Flickr Taken while on arrival at Keystone Harbor. The next photo, was taken while on the return voyage, on No. 1 End. No. 2 end was similar, in terms of rust. What makes this next photo remarkable, is that right below it, I'll be posting a photo of this same end of the ferry, taken on June 30, 2011 when the ferry went into service. That photo was taken during its open house and dedication ceremony. The change in ten years is remarkable. M.V. Salish - Washington State Ferries by Steven Rosenow, on Flickr M/V Salish No. 2 End picklefork decks by Steven Rosenow, on Flickr And lastly, a photo of the M.V. Salish with Norwegian Cruise Lines' Norwegian Bliss. M.V. Salish - Washington State Ferries, and Norwegian Cruise Lines' Norwegian Bliss, crisscrossing on Admiralty Inlet by Steven Rosenow, on Flickr
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 13, 2022 19:52:58 GMT -8
Its a bit shocking to see such a new vessel looking this tattered. WSF's, I am sure you can do better.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Jun 13, 2022 22:36:21 GMT -8
Its a bit shocking to see such a new vessel looking this tattered. WSF's, I am sure you can do better. I wouldn't say it's totally WSF's fault. They've been starved too much of maintenance revenue by people wanting their car tabs to be a mere $30. Back when we had a motor vehicle excise tax (MVET) things were a bit more well funded.
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Post by FNS on Jun 14, 2022 5:04:27 GMT -8
Within seconds, I heard a large *CRACK* of plastic shearing off my car. The sound was my passenger side door mirror being ripped off by a steel post welded to that bulkhead, just adjacent the elevator shaft. I just bought the car two months ago, but hey.. Had to inaugurate its first trip on a ferry with a need to replace a mirror! LOL Before I take my car aboard a KDT ferry, I retract my side mirrors (they fold in alongside my car). They're extended (folded out for rear viewing) either before disembarking or just after (depending on where I'm placed aboard the 274' ferry).
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Post by northwesterner on Jun 14, 2022 22:06:34 GMT -8
I wouldn't say it's totally WSF's fault. They've been starved too much of maintenance revenue by people wanting their car tabs to be a mere $30. Back when we had a motor vehicle excise tax (MVET) things were a bit more well funded. State general fund revenue grew faster than inflation every year from 2010-2019 and again in 2021. The state has revenue. Lots of it. It is not being allocated to WSF in the budgets passed by the legislature and signed by the governor. 695 happened over 20 years ago. It's not a valid excuse for WSF's issues in 2022. The state has replaced the revenue. The governor needs to do a better job of getting a budget that funds WSF adequately. He doesn't seem to care and he's in his third term.
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