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Post by Barnacle on Dec 15, 2014 6:34:11 GMT -8
I'm curious how your colleagues view these bad weather days on the water? Does everyone have the same perspective that you do? Or do you work with other colleagues who genuinely look forward to the bad weather days? I'm sure there are some who look forward to the heavy weather days; however, I really can't vouch for anyone else's opinion on the matter. My issues with heavy weather are, perhaps, predictable. In maritime terms, WSF's fleet is old. They've been taking everything we and the weather have been dishing out for years. I just don't like adding to the abuse. Also, our boats are built for capacity, not weather. Quite honestly, WSF runs in much more sheltered conditions than the BC fleet does and I'm pretty comfortable in saying for the vast majority of the time WSF's boats don't need enclosure. Maybe a half-dozen times a year it would be a nice option.
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Post by zargoman on May 10, 2015 15:26:19 GMT -8
Of course, we can't just have one boat break down and go on our happy ways...Elwha is having some issues. Has been sitting in Anacortes due to "necessary repairs to the vessel".
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Post by Kahloke on May 11, 2015 16:36:05 GMT -8
Whatever Elwha's problem was, it was short-lived, thankfully. Elwha was back up and running that same evening. I rode on Elwha a bunch last week in my travels to and from Orcas. It had been awhile since I had been on that vessel, so I noticed a few changes not seen by me before. 1. Elwha now has the same dreaded "cage" on the shelter decks that Kaleetan and Yakima have, leaving Hyak as the only Super without them, for now. 2. Also, They have dramatically reduced the forward life raft platforms, and have gone to a single raft instead of 3, as you can see in these photos. current what it used to look like
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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on May 11, 2015 17:31:48 GMT -8
Whatever Elwha's problem was, it was short-lived, thankfully. Elwha was back up and running that same evening. I rode on Elwha a bunch last week in my travels to and from Orcas. It had been awhile since I had been on that vessel, so I noticed a few changes not seen by me before. 1. Elwha now has the same dreaded "cage" on the shelter decks that Kaleetan and Yakima have, leaving Hyak as the only Super without them, for now. 2. Also, They have dramatically reduced the forward life raft platforms, and have gone to a single raft instead of 3, as you can see in these photos. current what it used to look like The Hyak is probably not going to get them. Since she will be out of the islands and onto Bremerton.
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Post by Barnacle on May 14, 2015 11:39:09 GMT -8
Whatever Elwha's problem was, it was short-lived, thankfully. Elwha was back up and running that same evening. I rode on Elwha a bunch last week in my travels to and from Orcas. It had been awhile since I had been on that vessel, so I noticed a few changes not seen by me before. 1. Elwha now has the same dreaded "cage" on the shelter decks that Kaleetan and Yakima have, leaving Hyak as the only Super without them, for now. The Hyak is probably not going to get them. Since she will be out of the islands and onto Bremerton. The Hyak will get them. It isn't going to be a 100% Bremerton boat, and there may be times when even on the Bremerton run the upper deck will need to be secured.
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Post by northwesterner on May 14, 2015 22:28:28 GMT -8
The Hyak will get them. It isn't going to be a 100% Bremerton boat, and there may be times when even on the Bremerton run the upper deck will need to be secured. It is interesting that the Olympic class are being delivered without physical barriers to the upper deck at the same time the Supers are having them retrofitted. That's all...
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Post by Cascadian Transport on May 15, 2015 15:30:20 GMT -8
It is interesting that the Olympic class are being delivered without physical barriers to the upper deck at the same time the Supers are having them retrofitted. That's all... The Olympics have locks on all doors leading out onto the Sun Deck. You can get up to the top of the stairwells, but not any further if the doors are locked.
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Post by zargoman on May 21, 2015 13:22:44 GMT -8
WSF put larger life rafts on the Elwha, reducing the number from twelve to four.
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Post by crashlament on Jul 12, 2015 7:47:20 GMT -8
Hey guys! Just before the Elwha broke down I got a tour. I now have tours on all the Supers!!! Enjoy
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jul 14, 2015 14:53:15 GMT -8
From the Kitsap Sun Facebook page:
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Post by crashlament on Sept 15, 2015 15:57:00 GMT -8
I've been thinking about how the Elwha is doing and I'm beginning to think the she may be retired before Tillikum. I say this because she had problems the last to summers that are showing heavy unreliability
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Post by Barnacle on Sept 18, 2015 13:15:06 GMT -8
I've been thinking about how the Elwha is doing and I'm beginning to think the she may be retired before Tillikum. I say this because she had problems the last to summers that are showing heavy unreliability Not tremendously likely. The Elwha's not up against a legislative mandate that insists our boats be retired at the age of sixty. (Even so, it looks like the Evergreen will make it to 62 or 63 before her time is through with WSF.) Besides, the Elwha's still faster and larger. When it runs.
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Post by Kahloke on Sept 18, 2015 14:17:42 GMT -8
I've been thinking about how the Elwha is doing and I'm beginning to think the she may be retired before Tillikum. I say this because she had problems the last to summers that are showing heavy unreliability Not tremendously likely. The Elwha's not up against a legislative mandate that insists our boats be retired at the age of sixty. (Even so, it looks like the Evergreen will make it to 62 or 63 before her time is through with WSF.) Besides, the Elwha's still faster and larger. When it runs. If they were to build the 4th OC vessel to meet SOLAS requirements, the new boat could replace Elwha on the international route, pushing Elwha into reserve status, not necessarily a bad way to go given the current state of Elwha and the other Supers. In such a scenario, I would be prone to assigning the 4th OC to the #1 vessel position in the San Juans for the fall and spring schedules, when that vessel's extra capacity will be needed for domestic sailings before and after the international run, and in the summers, assign it to domestic duty in the San Juans (either #2 or #3 position), keeping Chelan as the #1 vessel in the summers. But, that's just my take.
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Oct 31, 2015 19:05:58 GMT -8
Some pictures I got today of the Elwha, which was tied up in Slip 2 at Colman Dock. With the Wenatchee, taken from aboard the approaching Kaleetan As seen from my favorite photo spot in Seattle; the Great Wheel. With the Sealth Leaving her behind as we set sail to Bremerton
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Oct 31, 2015 19:33:33 GMT -8
According to the reservation system, the Elwha is set to return to the San Juans on Tuesday (Nov 3) with the 5:30am to Orcas and Shaw. I know this is tentative but it will be nice to have the Elwha back to give the Chelan a break who has been working non-stop since June. November 2 - Reservation Status - No Elwha November 3 - Reservation Status - Elwha Returns!
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 1, 2015 10:15:13 GMT -8
Not tremendously likely. The Elwha's not up against a legislative mandate that insists our boats be retired at the age of sixty. (Even so, it looks like the Evergreen will make it to 62 or 63 before her time is through with WSF.) Besides, the Elwha's still faster and larger. When it runs. If they were to build the 4th OC vessel to meet SOLAS requirements, the new boat could replace Elwha on the international route, pushing Elwha into reserve status, not necessarily a bad way to go given the current state of Elwha and the other Supers. In such a scenario, I would be prone to assigning the 4th OC to the #1 vessel position in the San Juans for the fall and spring schedules, when that vessel's extra capacity will be needed for domestic sailings before and after the international run, and in the summers, assign it to domestic duty in the San Juans (either #2 or #3 position), keeping Chelan as the #1 vessel in the summers. But, that's just my take. My sources say 'not gonna happen.' I'm assuming that the redesign would play some serious hob with the contract. I'd be looking for it to happen with the first one of the next flight, so that the contract can be written for it instead of implementing a Nevada-sized "change order." Assuming, of course, WSF gets another flight of the Olympics.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Nov 1, 2015 10:59:23 GMT -8
Looks like the Elwha is on the move (up to Anacortes?). I will try to ride her in the next few weeks if she is running.
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 1, 2015 12:22:26 GMT -8
If they were to build the 4th OC vessel to meet SOLAS requirements, the new boat could replace Elwha on the international route, pushing Elwha into reserve status, not necessarily a bad way to go given the current state of Elwha and the other Supers. In such a scenario, I would be prone to assigning the 4th OC to the #1 vessel position in the San Juans for the fall and spring schedules, when that vessel's extra capacity will be needed for domestic sailings before and after the international run, and in the summers, assign it to domestic duty in the San Juans (either #2 or #3 position), keeping Chelan as the #1 vessel in the summers. But, that's just my take. My sources say 'not gonna happen.' I'm assuming that the redesign would play some serious hob with the contract. I'd be looking for it to happen with the first one of the next flight, so that the contract can be written for it instead of implementing a Nevada-sized "change order." Assuming, of course, WSF gets another flight of the Olympics. I would love to see them expand the Olympic Class design for the next flight. Lengthen the vessel by 40' to increase vehicle capacity to 163 (up 22 from the current 141). That would be a useful bump in capacity, actually putting it a little over the original 1967 Super Class capacity of 160. I know, it's probably not likely to happen, but one can dream, right?
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Post by Elwha on the Rocks on Nov 3, 2015 10:17:01 GMT -8
And according to the schedule page and Vessel Watch she is now back! Good to see that she is in service and that it didn't take longer that they expected to get her fixed!
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Nov 3, 2015 19:39:29 GMT -8
Good to see that it didn't take longer that they expected to get her fixed! I was in the Islands the morning she broke down, four months ago. I was told she'd be back in service by that afternoon. She was out just a little longer than originally expected...
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Jan 16, 2016 9:52:32 GMT -8
The Elwha is at Slip 2 at Colman Dock. She is supposed to replace the Samish on Monday January 18th while the Samish has flammable insulation materiel removed from the engine room.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Jan 18, 2016 6:47:56 GMT -8
The Elwha is back in the Islands! She will operate in the #3 position today starting with the 0620 departure from Anacortes, the 0710 departure from Lopez and the 0805 departure from Friday Harbor.
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Post by R30A on Feb 3, 2016 14:16:57 GMT -8
I rode the Elwha on Sunday(Along with the other two Supers out of Anacortes.) I noticed that the Elwha is sporting a most interesting seating pattern! Elwha Seats by Lincoln McMahon, on Flickr Makes what is otherwise one of the more boring boats rather interesting! The other end was more normal. Both it and the Hyak could surely use the Evergreen State's seats!
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Post by northwesterner on Feb 3, 2016 14:49:24 GMT -8
I rode the Elwha on Sunday(Along with the other two Supers out of Anacortes.) I noticed that the Elwha is sporting a most interesting seating pattern! Elwha Seats by Lincoln McMahon, on Flickr Makes what is otherwise one of the more boring boats rather interesting! The other end was more normal. Both it and the Hyak could surely use the Evergreen State's seats! I pointed out a couple of years ago that both Hyak and Elwha are getting extremely short of these free standing chairs on both ends. They have, to my eye, substantially fewer chairs than they once did. Hopefully someone thinks to pull the chairs off of Evergreen State, recover, and redistribute as appropriate.
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Post by Barnacle on Feb 4, 2016 7:42:29 GMT -8
I rode the Elwha on Sunday(Along with the other two Supers out of Anacortes.) I noticed that the Elwha is sporting a most interesting seating pattern! Elwha Seats by Lincoln McMahon, on Flickr Makes what is otherwise one of the more boring boats rather interesting! The other end was more normal. Both it and the Hyak could surely use the Evergreen State's seats! I pointed out a couple of years ago that both Hyak and Elwha are getting extremely short of these free standing chairs on both ends. They have, to my eye, substantially fewer chairs than they once did. Hopefully someone thinks to pull the chairs off of Evergreen State, recover, and redistribute as appropriate. I'd be surprised if they received reupholstering, but not in the slightest bit surprised if they ended up on the Hyak and Elwha--at least some of them, anyway.
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