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Post by R30A on Feb 3, 2016 19:51:33 GMT -8
One way to tell the Yakima from the Kaleetan that could be visible from further away than the nameplate- Pilothouse door is white on the Yakima, and finished wood on the Kaleetan.
With regards to the fleet guides- Paper ones without the Hiyu, but with both Chimacum and Evergreen State are available at the Southworth terminal schedule rack.
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Post by maximase86 on Feb 4, 2016 11:30:02 GMT -8
Another sort of subtle detail. If you look at just above lower car deck port holes (sorry for the crude description), Kaleetan has about 4 or so small openings that look like either vents or allow water to drain from the upper car deck. If you compare to Yakima, it doesn't have these openings. They appear to be big enough to spot from further away.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Mar 15, 2016 16:14:35 GMT -8
Another sort of subtle detail. If you look at just above lower car deck port holes (sorry for the crude description), Kaleetan has about 4 or so small openings that look like either vents or allow water to drain from the upper car deck. If you compare to Yakima, it doesn't have these openings. They appear to be big enough to spot from further away. S As I recall, they're ventilation ducts. They aren't freeing ports on the gallery deck lanes, that's for sure. I've just checked all my Kaleetan image archives and there are no openings on either side gallery deck.
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 15, 2016 17:21:25 GMT -8
Another sort of subtle detail. If you look at just above lower car deck port holes (sorry for the crude description), Kaleetan has about 4 or so small openings that look like either vents or allow water to drain from the upper car deck. If you compare to Yakima, it doesn't have these openings. They appear to be big enough to spot from further away. S As I recall, they're ventilation ducts. They aren't freeing ports on the gallery deck lanes, that's for sure. I've just checked all my Kaleetan image archives and there are no openings on either side gallery deck. Rats. Now I'll have to try to remember to look and see what those openings are. I can't recall ever noticing them off the top of my head.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Mar 15, 2016 17:50:33 GMT -8
As I recall, they're ventilation ducts. They aren't freeing ports on the gallery deck lanes, that's for sure. I've just checked all my Kaleetan image archives and there are no openings on either side gallery deck. Rats. Now I'll have to try to remember to look and see what those openings are. I can't recall ever noticing them off the top of my head. I looked at my 200+ pix of the Kaleetan when I saw that question and despite that many in my archives, surprisingly none were ever taken from the from the lower level on the car deck's lower level gallery deck. Those that were taken from the upper gallery decks, show no freeing ports or hawser line hookups. I also looked at my copy of 'Ferryboats' by MS Kline which shows them as being there on a brand-new Kaleetan in 1967, and can be seen on a framed original Kodak 8x10 B&W I have of the vessel taken on its inaugural crossing @ Winslow.
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 16, 2016 4:16:00 GMT -8
Rats. Now I'll have to try to remember to look and see what those openings are. I can't recall ever noticing them off the top of my head. I looked at my 200+ pix of the Kaleetan when I saw that question and despite that many in my archives, surprisingly none were ever taken from the from the lower level on the car deck's lower level gallery deck. Those that were taken from the upper gallery decks, show no freeing ports or hawser line hookups. I also looked at my copy of 'Ferryboats' by MS Kline which shows them as being there on a brand-new Kaleetan in 1967, and can be seen on a framed original Kodak 8x10 B&W I have of the vessel taken on its inaugural crossing @ Winslow. They're too small to be chocks for the lines (there are no cleats up there anyway) and no freeing ports either (the drains are set into the deck). I've just never noticed them, is all. I'll have to look when I get close enough to the Kaleetan. And if she's the only one with said holes... why? Not that we'll ever figure THAT part of the equation out.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Mar 16, 2016 14:06:08 GMT -8
She indeed appears to be the *ONLY* Super Class vessel to have those openings.
I just looked at all my photos of the other three and none show up.
The plot thickens! Especially since photo evidence suggests she's had those openings since her first crossing.
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 16, 2016 14:57:31 GMT -8
She indeed appears to be the *ONLY* Super Class vessel to have those openings. I just looked at all my photos of the other three and none show up. The plot thickens! Especially since photo evidence suggests she's had those openings since her first crossing. Yes, that's an oddity. And moreso because none of the other three appear to have ever had the openings, whatever they turn out to be. EDIT: Check that. On page 119 of "The Evergreen Fleet" by Harre Demoro, there is a photo of the Elwha under construction and the same four openings appear to be there. Unfortunately it's a really small half-tone photo, so it's hard to tell. Same book indicates there's *something* on the Hyak, but most of the photos are when the green bulwark stripe was too high and I can't make anything out in detail.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Mar 16, 2016 21:32:19 GMT -8
She indeed appears to be the *ONLY* Super Class vessel to have those openings. I just looked at all my photos of the other three and none show up. The plot thickens! Especially since photo evidence suggests she's had those openings since her first crossing. Yes, that's an oddity. And moreso because none of the other three appear to have ever had the openings, whatever they turn out to be. EDIT: Check that. On page 119 of "The Evergreen Fleet" by Harre Demoro, there is a photo of the Elwha under construction and the same four openings appear to be there. Unfortunately it's a really small half-tone photo, so it's hard to tell. Same book indicates there's *something* on the Hyak, but most of the photos are when the green bulwark stripe was too high and I can't make anything out in detail. I'll have a looksee at some high-resolution shots of the Hyak I found online when she was new. I'm curious now.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Mar 16, 2016 21:51:05 GMT -8
Here's the Kaleetan, brand new in 1967. Note the holes, even then. M/V Kaleetan in 1967 by Steven Rosenow, on Flickr I bought this 8x10 at an antique shop in Port Angeles back in 2011 for $25. It came in a nice oak wood frame.
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 22, 2016 14:56:26 GMT -8
I'd have to actually get aboard the Kaleetan to verify this, but they do in fact appear to be deck drains. I finally happened to look over at the Kaleetan and seeing the holes reminded me to, well, look at the holes.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Mar 22, 2016 18:17:00 GMT -8
I'd have to actually get aboard the Kaleetan to verify this, but they do in fact appear to be deck drains. I finally happened to look over at the Kaleetan and seeing the holes reminded me to, well, look at the holes. Makes sense. *checks my photo library again*
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Mar 23, 2016 21:15:30 GMT -8
MYSTERY SOLVED. They're freeing ports! (although why they have them up on the upper gallery decks, is beyond me. LOL) I had a looksee at the photostream of our very own zargoman (who I notice has been inactive), and looked at the photos I've taken and compared them to his. I found this one, of the top gallery deck of the Kaleetan taken from what appears to be No. 2 End, looking towards No. 1.End, from the port side. Kaleetan by Zack Heistand, on Flickr You'll notice the cutouts on the steel curb of the deck.
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 27, 2016 3:54:07 GMT -8
MYSTERY SOLVED. They're freeing ports! (although why they have them up on the upper gallery decks, is beyond me. LOL) I had a looksee at the photostream of our very own zargoman (who I notice has been inactive), and looked at the photos I've taken and compared them to his. I found this one, of the top gallery deck of the Kaleetan taken from what appears to be No. 2 End, looking towards No. 1.End, from the port side. Kaleetan by Zack Heistand, on Flickr You'll notice the cutouts on the steel curb of the deck. Because the rain doesn't know to not go upstairs? Seriously, it's because the deck is flat, rather than hogged, so the water will sit there without those drains. The Elwha won't have those freeing ports because they've been replaced with proper deck drains at some point.
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Post by Kahloke on Jul 1, 2016 19:58:43 GMT -8
1-July-2017: Kaleetan at Bremerton: My artistic shot for the day. No, it doesn't show Kaleetan really clearly, but I still think it's a cool photo A more traditional shot
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Sept 26, 2016 18:48:11 GMT -8
On Sunday the 18th, I went to Bremerton for a round-trip on the Kaleetan. Here are a couple shots of her approaching Bremerton. Arriving, as seen from the fountain park. (that park has got to be one of the pest ferry vantage points in existence) Putting on the brakes In the dock
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Post by R30A on Jan 19, 2017 12:24:16 GMT -8
eek!
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Post by EGfleet on Jan 19, 2017 12:53:58 GMT -8
And further more... The 12:35 p.m. sailing from Seattle, and the 1:45 p.m. sailing from Bremerton remain cancelled as a result of some interior structural corrosion found on the M/V Kaleetan. Beginning with the 3:00 p.m. sailing from Seattle, the 87-car M/V Tillikum will operate in place of the 144-car Kaleetan until further notice. This will restore two-boat service the route, but drivers are advised to plan accordingly for this temporary reduction in capacity.
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Post by Kahloke on Jan 20, 2017 4:55:27 GMT -8
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Post by Barnacle on Jan 31, 2017 17:29:05 GMT -8
The Kaleetan is one of my favorite boats by far. She should be getting her gold stripe in March right? Or did WSF stop doing that... As far as I know, the anniversary bands still happen. I hope so. The Supers have done their time and deserve to be recognized.
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Jun 26, 2017 14:32:42 GMT -8
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Post by Steve Rosenow on Mar 1, 2018 17:28:27 GMT -8
From the Kitsap Sun Archives: Taken 12-26-1967 in Winslow. The M.V. Kaleetan awaits its first formal day of service. In the background is the M.V. Willapa.
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Post by FNS on Mar 1, 2018 23:37:58 GMT -8
From the Kitsap Sun Archives: Taken 12-26-1967 in Winslow. The M.V. Kaleetan awaits its first formal day of service. In the background is the M.V. Willapa. Besides the WILLAPA, we see the first CHETZEMOKA as well. Those two looked small compared to the big KALEETAN. Yet, the old CHETZY was the " Superferry" of the Columbia Beach run in her happier years there.
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Post by Kahloke on Mar 5, 2018 7:15:10 GMT -8
Went into Seattle on Saturday, and rode Kaleetan. Haven't been on Kaleetan in quite awhile, so I noticed a couple of things: 1. I haven't seen these "guide wires" above the front windows before, and I don't think the other Supers have them, at least not yet. I'm assuming they are there for workers to clip onto for safety when out there cleaning the windows? 2. It looks like Kaleetan has recently received a fresh coat of paint. The seats and railings are all looking nice and new, and it looks like they resurfaced the plating on the outside decks. She still hasn't received her gold stripe yet. I expect that will happen soon. Lastly - Kaleetan at Colman Dock in Seattle
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Post by PNW_ferrynerd on Mar 6, 2018 2:02:01 GMT -8
Why does the Kaleetan and Yakima have big windows
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