grk
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Post by grk on May 17, 2011 10:54:16 GMT -8
I've noticed an interest from some as to which routing the cruise vessels are using for the Canadian portion of the inside passage. Her then for the next few weeks are the vessels that will use Hecate St rather than the Inside Passage (N-north bound S-south bound): Island Princess N/S, Millennium S, Zuiderdam S, Norwegian Star N, Coral Princess S, Century N, Statendam N.
Those that will use a portion or the entire Inside Passage between Port Hardy and Rupert: Volendam N/S, Infinity S, Disney N/S, Millennium N, Zuiderdam N, Regatta S, Norwegian Pearl N and Seven Seas Navigator S.
This pattern is unlikely to change for the season, but on occasion it will. Much depends on currents for portions of the voyage which can cause the ships to either run slow or full sea speed for timings of the tides at crucial points on the voyage.
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Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on May 17, 2011 11:02:54 GMT -8
When we did our Alaska Cruise back in May 2009 on Norwegian Sun from Vancouver we sailed up the Strait of Georgia then up past Port Hardy out into the sound then we were in the strait till around the Gil Island area then we sailed North from there up Grenville Channel and a smaller Holland America ship was following us along with the Nor Ex up Grenville Channel. Then we exited again near Prince Rupert then up to Ketchikan from there. On the way down we were in Hecate Strait then went into Milbank Sound and down past Bella Bella the and the Inside Passage right down from there to Vancouver! I think most of the ships that sail out of Seattle take the Westbound route out in the open ocean off the Westside of Vancouver Island.
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Post by gordon on May 17, 2011 12:10:08 GMT -8
The Millennium , the Zuiderdam and the Zaandam use Gerenville Channel the volendam usually uses Seafourth Channel and fisher Channel to connect up with the Ip ferry route. orher maor vessels don't seem us any part of the Northern IP.
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grk
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Post by grk on May 17, 2011 19:33:42 GMT -8
Several regular readers who know me, have contacted me today, and asked if they can check and see which cruisers are going which way. Indeed you can!! All vessels require a pilot between the northern tip of Vancouver Island and Vancouver if sailing down the eastern shore. Any vessel travelling in whole or in part of the inside route north of Vancouver Island also requires a pilot; those that sail Hecate Strait do not. The boarding station at Port Hardy is called Pine Island, the one at Prince Rupert is Triple Island. If you check the Pilotage website, and see Triple Island, you know the vessel has pilots aboard, and can, if it wishes ,travel any portion of the Inside Passage. If the embarking or debarking is at Pine Island, the ship is using Hecate Strait and may not enter any part of the inside route. Here is how to find the information: go to: www.ppa.gc.caselect: traffic reports in the red bar for "Regions" change the selection to "long jobs" There you will see either Triple or Pine for all cruise ships,
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Post by gordon on May 18, 2011 7:49:41 GMT -8
Good info
Are ships like the Diaond Princess(120,000 gross tons) too large to use the Inisde Passage ( Grenville Channel for example.)
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Post by gordon on May 19, 2011 12:40:39 GMT -8
Can ships use areas like Desolation Sound?
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Post by gordon on May 31, 2011 18:49:01 GMT -8
Do ships need a pilot to use Principe Channel?
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mrdot
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Post by mrdot on May 31, 2011 19:03:52 GMT -8
:)I believe the cdn pilot-s get the full meal deal for all cdn waters and then the us pilot-s get the rest of the trip thru the panhandle and all points beyond! so they take in all scenery and do a safe glide by the various glacial inlets and bays, such as Hubbard, etc. and don't miss any of the meal times! ; mrdot.
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Post by gordon on Jun 26, 2011 9:43:39 GMT -8
Would the Diamond Princess be able ti sail up Grenville Channel (116,000 tons 123ft beam-excluding bridge wings- 28ft draft.)
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grk
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Post by grk on Jun 28, 2011 10:39:49 GMT -8
There are no cruise ships currently sailing the Alaskan market that are not physically capable of sailing the Grenville Channel. Whether or do or don't is dependant on their timings for scheduled arrangements. Usually used for northbounds rather than southbounds owing to hours of daylight!
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