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Post by Ferryman on Jan 10, 2011 21:34:16 GMT -8
I think you're right. Cardinal marks are yellow and black. It would be nice if I had access to a chart of Little River to see if they mean anything more than just range markers. However, I also do recall those lights being easily seen on a bright summer day though.
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Post by DENelson83 on Jan 10, 2011 23:29:04 GMT -8
In fact, this range is not on the local charts. When I look on my copy of ENC 470218 (CHS chart 3527) showing the Little River terminal, that range is not plotted. All you see plotted are the lights that mark the docking structures, leaving me to believe that the range markers were erected by BCF, not DFO, and that BCF never told CHS about them. The recommended ferry route into the Little River slip, however, is plotted on chart 3527.
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Post by Curtis on Mar 19, 2011 15:57:50 GMT -8
A photo taken last month at Westview Terminal. The construction they've been doing on the Westview Wharf is starting to take form and the Spirt Square stage is being constructed. Once done local bands and other events will take place there. Also looks like nobody will have to pull a Graham anymore when this job is done.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 28, 2011 11:45:16 GMT -8
A new thread for photos of the 2 terminals on the Comox - Powell River route.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 14, 2011 18:57:05 GMT -8
The corral at Little River, seen in early morning in May 2011.
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Post by lmtengs on Jun 20, 2011 18:30:57 GMT -8
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Post by Mike C on Jul 4, 2011 14:39:49 GMT -8
That would be Westview and I anticipate that would be the Tsawwassen, as the Sidney was retired one month prior to the date given.
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Post by Ferryman on Jul 4, 2011 17:27:51 GMT -8
Actually that would be the Sidney. When the Sidney and Tsawwassen had the expo scheme, the Sidney's name was closer to the rubbing strake on the bow, while the Tsawwassen had her's right below the red and blue stripe at the bow. In the photo, you can see the little name line closer to the rubbing strake. The Sidney was retired just a number of weeks after that photo.
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Post by lmtengs on Jul 4, 2011 19:06:18 GMT -8
That would be Westview Mindfart Thanks, post corrected.
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Post by FerryDude2012 on Jul 17, 2011 20:35:04 GMT -8
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Post by Curtis on Jul 27, 2011 17:36:18 GMT -8
Westview Terminal from Earlier Today. Dock Shot. You'll notice new dock floats in the neighbouring South Harbour. Here's another look at the construction on the Westview Pier. With the Burnaby off in the Distance. Panned Up to show the large crane.
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 30, 2011 20:49:45 GMT -8
Little River Terminal, 19 July 1972, as seen from the departing Queen of the Islands. There is a large orange/white pole sticking up through the trees in behind the terminal. I expect that it was some sort of navigational aid. This is not as sharp a photo as I might wish, but it does give you some idea of what the place looked like 39 years ago.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 30, 2011 21:11:54 GMT -8
Little River Terminal, 19 July 1972, as seen from the departing Queen of the Islands. There is a large orange/white pole sticking up through the trees in behind the terminal. I expect that it was some sort of navigational aid. This is not as sharp a photo as I might wish, but it does give you some idea of what the place looked like 39 years ago. Thanks Jim. - the Comox Glacier looks healthy and large in 1972.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 3, 2011 12:07:36 GMT -8
According to a recent news story in the Powell River Peak, a recent Ferry Advisory Committee meeting was told by BC Ferries that proposed terminal repairs/upgrades for Little River & Westview are likely to happen in the 2013-14 fiscal year; not sooner. from here www.prpeak.com/articles/2011/11/03/news/doc4eb08f7341d86866199128.txtThat's no sooner than April 2013.
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 4, 2011 20:06:06 GMT -8
The improvements will include trestle replacements, an expansion to two-lane ramps and other upgrades.
from here www.prpeak.com/articles/2011/11/03/news/doc4eb08f7341d86866199128.txtThat's no sooner than April 2013. [/quote] Two laned ramps? This seems like a great idea for the future maybe, but for now this is a bit of redundant thing to need. The point of two laned ramps is for faster loading with having the option to load two lanes at once, and to also discharge two lanes at once. If you look at where these terminals are situated, you'll notice that they're situated in awkward locations for two lane discharges. Little River I can maybe understand, but there would be need to be massive road widening leading into Comox. In Westview, the terminal is located in Downtown Westview, and 100 meters from the trestle is a traffic light. There would need to be some more major changes there as well for this to be worth while. But again, this is at a downtown setting.
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Post by Neil on Nov 4, 2011 21:08:07 GMT -8
Two laned ramps? This seems like a great idea for the future maybe, but for now this is a bit of redundant thing to need. The point of two laned ramps is for faster loading with having the option to load two lanes at once, and to also discharge two lanes at once. If you look at where these terminals are situated, you'll notice that they're situated in awkward locations for two lane discharges. Little River I can maybe understand, but there would be need to be massive road widening leading into Comox. In Westview, the terminal is located in Downtown Westview, and 100 meters from the trestle is a traffic light. There would need to be some more major changes there as well for this to be worth while. But again, this is at a downtown setting. I don't think you'd need any road improvements, except for a very short way. Keep in mind that even the Queen of Capilano unloads two lanes at a time at Snug Cove, and the traffic doesn't continue that way up the main road. The idea is just to get it off the boat. I don't understand why they'd need it when the ' Burnaby is on the route, and they have forty minutes in dock.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Feb 21, 2012 1:48:39 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 21, 2012 8:19:58 GMT -8
Is the area at the end of the non-ferry wharf now open and easy to walk down to the edge and capture photos from this angle? - or is it still tough to get to, depending on whether a gate is left open? Or has all this Off-limits stuff changed, now that there's a Spirit-Square on the wharf? - And did the new square put you in good-spirits for taking photos? ;D
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Post by Curtis on Feb 21, 2012 8:55:22 GMT -8
Is the area at the end of the non-ferry wharf now open and easy to walk down to the edge and capture photos from this angle? - or is it still tough to get to, depending on whether a gate is left open? Or has all this Off-limits stuff changed, now that there's a Spirit-Square on the wharf? I can confirm that, Yes, this Wharf is now open to the public again. It actually has for the last few months. I've taken photos there, I just never got around to posting them. (I have a few of the NIP departing Westview last week in the Sunset, I just haven't had time to post them)
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 20, 2012 11:27:30 GMT -8
What this article does not mention is what if any plans BCFS has for dealing with an open-decked ferry & nasty weather in Georgia Strait. This is winter time. The weather can get pretty ugly. There will be cancellations, perhaps many.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Dec 20, 2012 22:35:42 GMT -8
Can they not use the Burnaby out of Saltery Bay or wont she fit the docks there?? Would be faster probably and a better ship for longer crossing especially to Departure Bay.
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Post by Curtis on Dec 20, 2012 23:25:59 GMT -8
Can they not use the Burnaby out of Saltery Bay or wont she fit the docks there?? Would be faster probably and a better ship for longer crossing especially to Departure Bay. From what I've heard, the reason the Burnaby can't dock at Saltery Bay is because the Burnaby can't tie down her bowline since the Dolphins at Saltery Bay aren't long enough for a vessel of her size. I feel like they could use a temp solution for this though. Plus if she's Berthed at Departure Bay I don't see it being a serious issue. It would never pass though.
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Post by Nickfro on Dec 21, 2012 11:56:37 GMT -8
It surprises me that BC Ferries has not mentioned rationale for using the Island Sky instead of the Burnaby between Saltery Bay and Departure Bay. There has to be a clear reason for it, and simply mentioning that via a news article or release would take care of that uncertainty.
From what I've read, Burnaby docking issues at Saltery Bay appear to be the primary reason. The Burnaby will surely be going in for a refit at this time, and considering the lack of support for the Wack on Salish Sea crossings, the Island Sky is the resulting ferry of choice for the job.
I like toiling with the idea of extending the Dolphins at Saltery Bay to accommodate a longer ferry, if that is the only reason that it can't accommodate. This could also bring the Coquitlam into the mix as a viable option in this circumstance, even though it's only 3.5 weeks of disruption. Obviously the Coquitlam is grossly oversized for the job, but would handle better crossing the Strait in the winter season.
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Post by princessofvanfan on Dec 21, 2012 12:10:06 GMT -8
Hmmm. That would be a nice cruise between S.Bay and Nanaimo on a decent day.
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Post by Mike C on Dec 21, 2012 12:23:01 GMT -8
It surprises me that BC Ferries has not mentioned rationale for using the Island Sky instead of the Burnaby between Saltery Bay and Departure Bay. There has to be a clear reason for it, and simply mentioning that via a news article or release would take care of that uncertainty. From what I've read, Burnaby docking issues at Saltery Bay appear to be the primary reason. The Burnaby will surely be going in for a refit at this time, and considering the lack of support for the Wack on Salish Sea crossings, the Island Sky is the resulting ferry of choice for the job. I like toiling with the idea of extending the Dolphins at Saltery Bay to accommodate a longer ferry, if that is the only reason that it can't accommodate. This could also bring the Coquitlam into the mix as a viable option in this circumstance, even though it's only 3.5 weeks of disruption. Obviously the Coquitlam is grossly oversized for the job, but would handle better crossing the Strait in the winter season. I believe they are also planning to synchronize this with the refit for the Nanaimo, sending the Burnaby down to fill in on Route 9 one last time. Is the Burnaby also getting a refit during this time frame...?
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