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Post by Neil on Sept 18, 2007 21:12:28 GMT -8
(I wonder if there were people in Prince Rupert who would write notes on the community bulletin-board, wondering why Grand Trunk Pacific wouldn't put on an extra ship for the overload traffic wanting to get down to Vancouver to go see a Millionaires hockey game?). Oh, probably. And I'll bet there were a lot of people thinking, "Jeez, I wish little WAC would hurry up and grow up and nationalize those so-and-so's, and get us some decent clam chowder on board".... Actually, hockey fans were probably more likely going home on one of these...  I wonder if they put on extra runs after the games? Fans would have had a fairly long street car ride from here....  ...the Denman Arena, home to Vancouver's only Stanley Cup winners. Built in 1911, it was the biggest indoor hockey arena in the world, until the Montreal Forum opened in 1926. (Housing the Maroons, not the Canadiens.) With 10,500 seats, it was home to the Millionaires when they won the Stanley Cup over Ottawa in 1915. It was fatally damaged by fire in August of 1936, and never rebuilt. Sorry for the digression from steamships; like a lot of things on this forum, it was Mr Horn's fault. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 18, 2007 21:36:01 GMT -8
Sorry for the digression from steamships... Here's a tie-in thought, bringing this back to topic of old coastal steamships and the local shipyard heritage: If sports arena corporate-naming-rights had been in-fashion during the first part of the 20th Century, would the old Denman Arena have been named something like Wallace Arena? ps: For the Grand Trunk ships, their name-mark (reflecting that company's heritage) is on an entire town: Melville, Saskatchewan. www.city.melville.sk.ca/siteengine/activepage.asp?PageID=173...bet you didn't think a topic about west-coast steamships would include a reference to Saskatchewan.... ;D |
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Post by BreannaF on Sept 19, 2007 6:39:08 GMT -8
On a lighter note: Actually, hockey fans were probably more likely going home on one of these... Hey Mom! Look! A Sea Bus! ***************************************************** Anyway, I wanted to thank those who have posted these great historical pictures. I thoroughly enjoy them. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 22, 2009 19:44:44 GMT -8
Former North Vancouver Ferry #5, as a restaurant:  (photo poached from Alec of Securidy. He likely poached it from R.R. Horne's Flikr. So I give photo credit to R.R. Horne) |
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Post by Northern Exploration on Nov 23, 2009 8:01:02 GMT -8
Former North Vancouver Ferry #5, as a restaurant: (photo poached from Alec of Securidy. He likely poached it from R.R. Horne's Flikr. So I give photo credit to R.R. Horne) That is a cool pic of the old Seven Seas. Was a big deal as a kid to go aboard a ship to have dinner. It was more of an "adult" type restaurant than a family place so it made it more special to go there as a kid. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 15, 2010 18:41:32 GMT -8
I was talking to someone in Tofino today, and she mentioned that one of the shacks on Strawberry Island (just off Tofino, on its sheltered inlet) is an old car ferry. That was news to me. I will see if I can find out more about it, and report back. Has anyone ever heard of this before? =============== edit: I've done some googling, here is what I've found: from here: www.tgw.net/sailing/csa/ch3.htm----------- from here: www.westcoaster.ca/modules/AMS/article.php?storyid=2278--------------- I will see if I can get some photos of this. |
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Post by Neil on Feb 15, 2010 22:47:50 GMT -8
From Ferry Across the Harbour (James Barr, Mitchell Press), this is the Norvan, later renamed North Vancouver Ferry No. 1. Built 1900, 73'x20', 83 tons. No indication in the book as to what became of her, but if her hull is in Tofino, she is certainly the oldest surviving ferry in BC, by a longshot.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 16, 2010 7:33:05 GMT -8
No indication in the book as to what became of her, but if her hull is in Tofino, she is certainly the oldest surviving ferry in BC, by a longshot. I will try to take some photos this week (yes, I'm at Tofino), and I'll post them here, on the weekend. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 19, 2010 21:59:22 GMT -8
Photos of North Vancouver Ferry No.1, taken February 16 & 17, 2010 in Tofino. Location is Strawberry Island, just off of the Weigh West marine pub/hotel in Tofino: View from Weigh West marina (she's easy to miss):  View from Jamie's Whaling Station:  View from 4th Street dock:  View of stern, from Weigh West marina:   Side view, from 4th Street dock:   Zoom of the life-ring hanging on her side:  |
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Post by Northern Exploration on Feb 22, 2010 8:11:23 GMT -8
Until you looked into it Flug, I always assumed that was an old larger tug that had the upper wheelhouse removed and was beached there.
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Post by Neil on Aug 11, 2010 14:49:15 GMT -8
Old news, this, but new to me... The August Western Mariner reports that the last of the West Vancouver ferries, the Hollyburn, was scrapped this past February after being berthed on the Fraser for some time. I always used to think that the Hollyburn and her sister, the Harbour Princess, were two of the nicest, classical looking passenger vessels residing in our harbour. After the West Van ferry stopped running in 1947, the Hollyburn was apparently most often employed by owner Harbour Navigation (later named Harbour Ferries) in running tours, and taking people up to the Wigwam Inn. Before she sank in Coal Harbour a couple of years ago, she was used as a ticket office by Harbour Ferries. I thought she looked kind of rough last time I walked by. This picture is from the West Van archives, and shows her in her active ferry days. I wonder if the boneheads who designed our seabuses ever noticed how all the old harbour ferries always had hordes of people outside, enjoying the view.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 11, 2010 14:59:22 GMT -8
Old news, this, but new to me...
The August Western Mariner reports that the last of the West Vancouver ferries, the Hollyburn, was scrapped this past February after being berthed on the Fraser for some time. ....and this is all new info to me. Thanks for the education. A couple thoughts about the photo: 1) The awning-covered open-air lounge on the stern is similar to what the Lady Rose still has. I wonder if this was a common feature on these types of ships in this era. (re the L'Rose, I've heard nothing new about her, in the past few months). 2) If you try, you can imagine the wheelhouse being at the stern, imagine the ship being only 1 deck high, and you might be seeing a ship similar to the Coastal Runner. Imagine, it's easy if you try... |
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Post by lmtengs on Aug 11, 2010 16:57:24 GMT -8
Old news, this, but new to me...
The August Western Mariner reports that the last of the West Vancouver ferries, the Hollyburn, was scrapped this past February after being berthed on the Fraser for some time. Interesting piece of news. I've always thought the same as you, Neil about the Seabuses not having a promenade deck. It wouldn't be too hard, either! They'd just need to put some railings on the roof of the pax deck, cut a hole in the ceiling, and put a ladder in! The only issue they might have is people bonking their heads as the SeaBus enters the terminals. there's not too high of a clearance there. (re the L'Rose, I've heard nothing new about her, in the past few months). 2) If you try, you can imagine the wheelhouse being at the stern, imagine the ship being only 1 deck high, and you might be seeing a ship similar to the Coastal Runner. Imagine, it's easy if you try... I see it! Nice one, Mike! Regarding the Lady Rose, where's she supposed to be moored right now? I'm gonna be up the Alberni/Tofino/Ucluelet way next week, and I could get an update... |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 12, 2010 15:56:46 GMT -8
Photos of North Vancouver Ferry No.1, taken February 16 & 17, 2010 in Tofino. Location is Strawberry Island, just off of the Weigh West marine pub/hotel in Tofino: Zoom of the life-ring hanging on her side:  Field-trip assignment for Luke & Jason: re above Post #113 in this thread. |
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Post by mrdot on Aug 19, 2010 22:10:38 GMT -8
this is a facinating thread of old memorabilia, some of it in my timeframe, which terribly dates me! the pic. of fugel with the patrica's bell puts me to mind of wac bennet, standing proud over the builders model of qpr. my old ship! mr.dot.
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 5, 2010 9:32:58 GMT -8
Field-trip assignment for Luke & Jason: Couldn't get it, Flug  Sometime in the next year or two I'll be getting a bigger lens (yay mm - 400mm lens) then I'll be able to get the pic   |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 13, 2010 11:14:12 GMT -8
Here's a new thread for photos and discussion about the various historical North & West Vancouver ferries.
- I'll be moving applicable items from the general "west coast steamships" thread, to this one.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 9, 2011 9:08:03 GMT -8
Here are 2 more shots of North Vancouver Ferry No.1, in nice evening light on April 7, 2011:   |
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Post by lmtengs on Oct 20, 2011 19:05:20 GMT -8
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 23, 2011 8:08:57 GMT -8
I can even tell you which ferry it is... it's the Crosline, in her North Van period (between Black Ball Line (PSN) ownership and her purchase by the Washington Highway Department). |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2011 9:23:17 GMT -8
A side note to the post about the Hollyburn .... I'm not sure when they started, but the Hollyburn or the Harbour Princess would sub for the Garibaldi II when she went for annual refit. Trucks would have to be barged over. (After the Garibaldi II was transferred from Highways to BCF we got loaners from BCF. Nicola , Nimpkish, AJ ) They built a platform on the bow of the Princess or Hollyburn and at Darrell Bay we would go bow in and use a gangway from the ramp. At Woodfibre we went alongside a float and used the side doors. After the Darrell Bay dock fire, we ran the Harbour Princess from Britannia to Woodfibre until repairs to the dock and ramp were completed. The Hollyburn was telegraph / engine room controlled ( direct reversible ) and the Harbour Princess was wheelhouse controlled and both used a spring line when going alongside which made for some "interesting" landings.
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Post by Neil on Feb 2, 2012 15:28:16 GMT -8
Two things you can't do on our dumb Seabuses: one, get a coffee, and two, most inexcusably on a harbour as grand as ours, go outside. North Van ferry, 1950s, from the Leonard Frank collection at the Vancouver Public Library.   |
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Post by dorothybell on Jul 28, 2014 5:47:01 GMT -8
I am doing some research on the Number 5 Ferry in North Vancouver. The City of North Vancouver had her demolished because they said she was a liability. Two unattributed sources say that she was deemed seaworthy when she was sent for destruction to a drydock. Any idea where I can get the info?
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Post by mariner42 on Jul 28, 2014 8:30:07 GMT -8
I am doing some research on the Number 5 Ferry in North Vancouver. The City of North Vancouver had her demolished because they said she was a liability. Two unattributed sources say that she was deemed seaworthy when she was sent for destruction to a drydock. Any idea where I can get the info? I suggest you try the library at Vancouver Maritime Museum. They are very helpful. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 18, 2016 20:26:02 GMT -8
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