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Post by lmtengs on Mar 15, 2011 14:28:49 GMT -8
I'd like to make a personal appeal here regarding Deas. Please don't impede on private property. Trust me, I've had a run-in with managerial staff. They can and will be pr*cks. You've been warned (And please, be careful and don't "ruin" it for the rest of us). I'm confused. You say to not impede on private property, yet after, you mention not to ruin it for the rest of us. What's to be 'ruined' if you're saying to not go there in the first place? It sounds almost as if you're telling whoever that's directed at not to go impede on private property, since that might ruin it for when you want to impede on private property yourself in the future. Those two statements seem to really contradict each other.
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 20, 2011 21:49:06 GMT -8
I'm confused. You say to not impede on private property, yet after, you mention not to ruin it for the rest of us. What's to be 'ruined' if you're saying to not go there in the first place? It sounds almost as if you're telling whoever that's directed at not to go impede on private property, since that might ruin it for when you want to impede on private property yourself in the future. Those two statements seem to really contradict each other. Yes, yes those two statements do seem to contradict each other, The Canadian Viking. For a long while I've had concerns over DPM property and our ability to not trespass. I'm simply asking here for a little respect for the property and the workers when you *do not* trespass. The fact remains that there is only a small perimeter that's actually physically secured at DPM. I would really like it to remain that way for the sake of all people who wish to document vessels there. To clarify what I was trying to get at previously: I felt compelled and continue to feel compelled to make a statement condemning illegal trespass. My previous words might not have appropriately expressed that. No offence intended towards those of us who step-up and realize that the photographic documentation of vessels at Deas is so necessary. Thank you all for your contributions.
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Post by mrdot on Apr 21, 2011 14:09:07 GMT -8
:)I guess I need to fess up, cus I've been tresspassin thru the Deas docklands for years, ever since my move to tsawwassen, for that matter, and brother wettcoast has accompanied me many times! guess I better go to the confessal booth! the ageing process is not kind and it is more of a struggle now than it used to be! mrdot.
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Post by Neil on Apr 22, 2011 20:12:04 GMT -8
...The only reason that that manager grabbed me by the arm was because he had just-previously asked for my credentials, to-which I refused to answer. In this situation, I absolutely "preach" easygoingness... i.e. Treat every step that you take on such property the same that you would as an invited guest to any of your trusted friends' places. This, I've racked my brain over-about for ages, is the way to adhere to respecting those who invite us into their pervue, for one. I don't think Viking is the only one who's a bit confused about the line of your posts here. Something seems to be getting lost in the translation. You started by asking that everyone respect the private nature of BC Ferries' Deas facility, which is fair enough. But you relate at least one episode where your actions, rightly or wrongly, caused 'management' to be [censored]. Were you on BC Ferries property? Who challenged you- management, security, or a staffer? I'm assuming it wasn't a railroad employee. Why would you not answer their question about your 'credentials', if you were on their property? And if you weren't on their property, why did the person grab you by the arm? Did you tell them that such an action constituted assault? I can't square the remarks about being an 'invited guest' with the comment about the management [censored] and the ambiguity about exactly where you were when challenged, and I don't quite follow the lesson this teaches about maintaining good Forum relations with BC Ferries. Sorry if I'm being a bit thick, but I'd like to understand the background to your posts on this topic a little better.
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Post by lmtengs on Apr 22, 2011 22:15:57 GMT -8
Okay, thank God I'm not the only one in the confused category, because all I'm getting here is what sounds like a one sided almost-argument between Retro and himself regarding the wrongs and more wrongs of trespassing, while still hinting that trespassing is great due to its photographic and sentimental benefits... Are you by any chance a politician, because with the way you're talking, you wouldn't be half-bad
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 30, 2011 21:26:40 GMT -8
Apologies to all here. The effect of what I'm doing with my words is to drag my name through the mud. I can only chalk this upto a form of self-sabotage, but certainly acknowledge that this is no excuse my behaviour here as of late.
All that I can really do here (this goes for any other threads that I've made cryptic-sounding messages in) is ask for you all to hang-in and bear with me. I am committed bringing my 'A' game back to the table from here on out. Thank you for your patience.
I felt this was the most appropriate thread to post this message in as it's where I've blundered the worst recently as is evidenced above by members rightfully pointing it out, but am aware that this post is very OT and welcome it being shuffled aside by staff if necessary.
Thanks again, Graham
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Post by Retrovision on May 9, 2011 7:54:45 GMT -8
Has it been mentioned that there is one Lomaiviti Princess now at Deas' Berth 3 according to AIS-tracking? If I have some extra time today I'll stop-by for a look.
The Lomaiviti Princess (keeping in mind that Deas has moored private vessels in the past, though) is not in the Transport Canada Vessel Registration Query System database and similarly isn't assigned a flag of registration through AIS. Also, the only sign of that name that comes up pertaining to shipping using Google is from a handful of AIS-tracking websites, even fewer when you add her so-called MMSI number: 11868.
Am I missing a post about this vessel in another thread possibly?
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Post by Ferryman on May 9, 2011 8:12:43 GMT -8
Has it been mentioned that there is one Lomaiviti Princess now at Deas' Berth 3 according to AIS-tracking? If I have some extra time today I'll stop-by for a look. The Lomaiviti Princess (keeping in mind that Deas has moored private vessels in the past, though) is not in the Transport Canada Vessel Registration Query System database and similarly isn't assigned a flag of registration through AIS. Also, the only sign of that name that comes up pertaining to shipping using Google is from a handful of AIS-tracking websites, even fewer when you add her so-called MMSI number: 11868. Am I missing a post about this vessel in another thread possibly? This thread should answer that question. ferriesbc.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=qa&thread=7279&page=7#129881
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Post by Retrovision on May 9, 2011 11:48:52 GMT -8
Has it been mentioned that there is one Lomaiviti Princess now at Deas' Berth 3 according to AIS-tracking? If I have some extra time today I'll stop-by for a look. The Lomaiviti Princess (keeping in mind that Deas has moored private vessels in the past, though) is not in the Transport Canada Vessel Registration Query System database and similarly isn't assigned a flag of registration through AIS. Also, the only sign of that name that comes up pertaining to shipping using Google is from a handful of AIS-tracking websites, even fewer when you add her so-called MMSI number: 11868. Am I missing a post about this vessel in another thread possibly? This thread should answer that question. ferriesbc.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=qa&thread=7279&page=7#129881Thanks for that. Getting back into the swing of things around here takes some doing, but moreso in this case - as our QPR was certainly a favourite of mine and therefore among the threads that I try to look at even when I don't have all the time in the world - I think that I was avoiding the thread because of this inevitable news. Onward and upward for her in her golden years, let's hope.
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Post by lmtengs on May 14, 2011 12:06:21 GMT -8
The berthing-aid for Northern vessels at Deas in berth 4: Taken yesterday. EDIT: A quick note for anybody planning on venturing around Deas in the future... As I was leaving yesterday, I had a bit of a run-in with a coyote as I was walking through the forested area between Rice Mill Road and the facility. Not surprising, seeing how many rabbits live around there. The coyote growled at me, and I grabbed a stick and flailed it a bit, being loud and big. The coyote eventually slunk off, and I shouted at it as it left. Just be cautious, and if you have limited mobility or are more paranoid than I, maybe bring bear-spray or something.
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Post by Mill Bay on May 15, 2011 20:07:14 GMT -8
A quick note for anybody planning on venturing around Deas in the future... As I was leaving yesterday, I had a bit of a run-in with a coyote as I was walking through the forested area between Rice Mill Road and the facility. Not surprising, seeing how many rabbits live around there. The coyote growled at me, and I grabbed a stick and flailed it a bit, being loud and big. The coyote eventually slunk off, and I shouted at it as it left. Just be cautious, and if you have limited mobility or are more paranoid than I, maybe bring bear-spray or something. You should have tried to take its picture. I'm sure that would have scared it off with no problem.
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Post by Northern Exploration on May 16, 2011 8:15:17 GMT -8
A quick note for anybody planning on venturing around Deas in the future... As I was leaving yesterday, I had a bit of a run-in with a coyote as I was walking through the forested area between Rice Mill Road and the facility. Not surprising, seeing how many rabbits live around there. The coyote growled at me, and I grabbed a stick and flailed it a bit, being loud and big. The coyote eventually slunk off, and I shouted at it as it left. Just be cautious, and if you have limited mobility or are more paranoid than I, maybe bring bear-spray or something. You should have tried to take its picture. I'm sure that would have scared it off with no problem. While the bite would be nasty, it would be the rabies shot afterward in the stomach after that might be worse.
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Post by FNS on May 16, 2011 10:01:09 GMT -8
A quick note for anybody planning on venturing around Deas in the future... As I was leaving yesterday, I had a bit of a run-in with a coyote as I was walking through the forested area between Rice Mill Road and the facility. Not surprising, seeing how many rabbits live around there. The coyote growled at me, and I grabbed a stick and flailed it a bit, being loud and big. The coyote eventually slunk off, and I shouted at it as it left. Just be cautious, and if you have limited mobility or are more paranoid than I, maybe bring bear-spray or something. You should have tried to take its picture. I'm sure that would have scared it off with no problem. It's no wonder why Warner Brothers did cartoons featuring Wile E Coyote's craving appetite for Rabbit Stew. Poor Wile, he just gets out smarted by Bugs Bunny. ;D Rather interesting creatures, to say the least. Quite a howl, too! As we see below, Wile has fun trying to catch that Road Runner. PLEASE DON'T TRY THIS ON YOUR MOUNTAIN SLOPES!Thanks for that coyote warning around the Deas area.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 17:50:28 GMT -8
hey, i just had to make an account so i could post here and ask a couple questions. why are you guys so fascinated with the ferries and whats going on w/ them, where they are ect? im not putting you guys down, dont get me wrong, but going around to take pictures of them, that just seems obsessed or something. so please educate me. i enjoy working on the ferries and like them, but i didnt think there was actually forums about them. thanks in advance for the relpies and the education
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Post by lmtengs on May 16, 2011 18:07:30 GMT -8
hey, i just had to make an account so i could post here and ask a couple questions. why are you guys so fascinated with the ferries and whats going on w/ them, where they are ect? im not putting you guys down, dont get me wrong, but going around to take pictures of them, that just seems obsessed or something. so please educate me. i enjoy working on the ferries and like them, but i didnt think there was actually forums about them. thanks in advance for the relpies and the education For some of us, it could be considered our hobby. Young girls have Justin Bieber, some people obsessively collect stamps, some are jeweled by different world currencies, and our niche is ferries. Some of us are ex-crew members with BCF, and they like to know how the ships they worked on, their 'babies' by some definition, are faring after they leave the job. Some of us are photographers, and we specialize in marine transportation. Some of us are teens or young adults, and we see ourselves working with BCF in the future. And then some of us grew up around the ferries, maybe they lived on one of the islands, or up north, and the ferries were or are their lifeline to civilization. They like to know what's going on. And then there are the rest of us, who just foam at the mouth whenever we see a ferry. No real reason why, we just do. ;D Ferries aren't the only things you see forums about. There's politicians, airplanes, transit buses, and even skyscrapers. There's forums about dogs, forums about bridges, forums about japanese art styles, and forums about pretty much everything else. Here, I just searched this up on google. It's a French forum about tupperware food containers: tupperware34.superforum.fr/ ;D Call us ferry-freaks original, eh?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 18:16:08 GMT -8
oh ok, i can see that now. i guess its just cause i work at deas, that it is the last place i would go after work lol. the coolest parts of them are the places that passengers cant go. i couldnt believe how much of the ship isnt seen. thanks for your reply, it makes sence now
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 16, 2011 18:40:01 GMT -8
hey, i just had to make an account so i could post here and ask a couple questions. why are you guys so fascinated with the ferries and whats going on w/ them, where they are ect? Thanks for the questions. Ship-spotting is not yet an Olympic sport (haha), but it is a world-wide hobby, much like train-spotting, or people who are interested in cars, trucks, planes, etc. For me, I grew up on the Coast, and in my 40something years of life, I've travelled on the ferries a lot. The history of the ferries is part of the history of the coast, and I like that connection. I don't deny that there's a "nerd" or "geek" aspect to this hobby, and I'm a good example of a detail-nerd who has found his fun hobby. The Internet makes it easy for people with similar obscure interests to find each other and share stories and of course photos. In our ferry-fan group, we appreciate each other's photos and experiences, and learn from each other. Cheers, and thanks for helping to make our hobby a reality by keeping those ships running (even the 'Chilliwack, haha)
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 18:48:19 GMT -8
lol thats funny that you mentioned the chilliwack, i have been on there for months redoing a bunch of stuff on it
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Post by Quatchi on May 16, 2011 20:50:51 GMT -8
lol thats funny that you mentioned the chilliwack, i have been on there for months redoing a bunch of stuff on it"it", "it", "it" shes a lady, call her as such! Cheers,
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 20:59:22 GMT -8
well she is one old hagared lady then
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 21:01:29 GMT -8
but she has a whole lot of new stuff put in her, so she looks alot better. (is that better how i said that?) why do they refer to ships as ladies anyways?
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Post by lmtengs on May 16, 2011 21:08:27 GMT -8
but she has a whole lot of new stuff put in her, so she looks alot better. (is that better how i said that?) why do they refer to ships as ladies anyways? I'm not totally sure, but I know it dates back hundreds of years. Say, if it's not contra-regulations, we would worship you if you could post some pictures of the new equipment that's being put into her during the refit! ;D
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Post by Northern Exploration on May 17, 2011 18:05:46 GMT -8
hey, i just had to make an account so i could post here and ask a couple questions. why are you guys so fascinated with the ferries and whats going on w/ them, where they are ect? Thanks for the questions. Ship-spotting is not yet an Olympic sport (haha), but it is a world-wide hobby, much like train-spotting, or people who are interested in cars, trucks, planes, etc. For me, I grew up on the Coast, and in my 40something years of life, I've travelled on the ferries a lot. The history of the ferries is part of the history of the coast, and I like that connection. I don't deny that there's a "nerd" or "geek" aspect to this hobby, and I'm a good example of a detail-nerd who has found his fun hobby. The Internet makes it easy for people with similar obscure interests to find each other and share stories and of course photos. In our ferry-fan group, we appreciate each other's photos and experiences, and learn from each other. Cheers, and thanks for helping to make our hobby a reality by keeping those ships running (even the 'Chilliwack, haha) Last week I stopped the Welland Canal in St. Catharines. Ontario. It enables ships to get between the lakes and bypass the drop of Niagara Falls. I go sporatically because it is interesting to see various ships go through. There are hardcore shipspotters there everytime. One lock has a museum with an observation bridge two stories tall. On many days and especially weekends there are volunteers (lock nerds) who are on hand to answer questions. Perhaps BC Ferries would give passes to ferry nerds to act as docents on routes .
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 18:16:20 GMT -8
i would but i had to sign a thing saying i wouldnt take pictures. probably said too much on here already
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 18:21:04 GMT -8
lol id highly doubt they would give you a pass. i get mine taken away when i get layed off (which happens quite often)
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