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Post by corporalrabbinoff on Oct 9, 2008 14:10:25 GMT -8
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Post by Koastal Karl on Oct 9, 2008 14:55:54 GMT -8
Could you please post these photos in the correct thread. This is the Coastal Inspiration thread and I dont see the Inspiration in any of your photos. I assume these photos would be better suited in the Coastal Celebration thread or in the photos section.
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Post by gordon on Oct 9, 2008 16:54:24 GMT -8
The CI can do a 1h45M crossing on Route# 30 If the route could be run on that type of schedule would that help ballance outh the traffic out between Routes 2 & 30?
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Post by CFG on Oct 9, 2008 17:58:46 GMT -8
The CI can do a 1h45M crossing on Route# 30 If the route could be run on that type of schedule would that help ballance outh the traffic out between Routes 2 & 30? I pretty sure the Alberni could as well if she and her crews wanted to, she and her sisters are capable of the same speeds as the coastals. As far as balancing out the traffic, I think it would make it worse. This is because each vessel will only ever make 4 round trips per day. Having and 2 1/2 hour turn around time helps to spread the time it takes to complete 4 round trips out to over an extended period of time. IE 19 1/2 hours total time on route 30 vs 16 on route 1. What I am trying to say is that the first and last sailings are popular with people trying to put in long days. If you moved them closer to the first and last sailings of routes 1 and 2 then you would loose traffic. I myself have used the 10:45 from TSW to DUKE get home to Sidney when I have missed the last sailing to Swartz. If your point was to have a shorter crossing time, I don't think people would really care if it was 10min shorter when you still end up in a different location.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Oct 9, 2008 18:30:51 GMT -8
I have posted this a couple of times in various threads - so I promise to never quote this again after this . Costs skyrocket once a ferry goes past its economical cruise speed. The Queen of the North burned 1,100 litres of fuel at 18 knots and it doubled to 2,200 at 22 knots. I don't know what the corresponding figures are for the Coastals and maybe their fuel burn increases at a gentler curve. But the extra speed adds an enormous overhead is undoubtedly true. Hyper cruise is a new term as well for cars. You brake less, coast more, go slower, keep your windows up and turn off your A/C when you don't need it. I will look for the link later but I saw an article that one of the Euro ferry firms were slowing their speeds to save fuel. I was at Chapters and glanced quickly at one of the shipping mags quickly. *"Shipping - Today and Yesterday" Stena line slows to save fuel.
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Post by gordon on Nov 13, 2008 12:03:42 GMT -8
Why has the CI been pulled out of service thru the weekend?
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Post by corporalrabbinoff on Nov 13, 2008 12:33:56 GMT -8
I stayed up late last night, and did hear her call away from Duke Point at 01:16am bound for Departure Bay.
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Nov 13, 2008 16:55:34 GMT -8
Why has the CI been pulled out of service thru the weekend? Warranty work...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2008 9:29:44 GMT -8
She is running fine now
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Post by Nickfro on Nov 28, 2008 14:07:54 GMT -8
Here is something I don't know, and may contribute to the CI being positioned on Route 30. . .
The Alberni, during her MLU, had some coin operated showers installed after receiving some feedback from some long haul truckers that regularly use that route. Did the CI have any coin-op showers installed on her?
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Post by Nick on Nov 28, 2008 14:20:51 GMT -8
No, the only ship in the southern fleet that has showers remains the Alberni. The 'Inspiration is a carbon copy of the Renaissance, with the exception of the interior decor and exterior decals.
I think the only reason the CI is on route 30 is for development of commercial traffic. Like it or not, there are no ships in the fleet capable of taking the overheight loads the Super-Cs can, with the exception of the Spirits (which still only have the one OH deck), and Alberni. The fact that the passenger space isn't utilized is just a price to pay for the OH capacity. Somebody is going to suggest that the New West can take the loads, which is true, but she is needed on Rt 1 because, for some reason or another, BCF doesn't want to run any Cs through Active Pass.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2008 9:59:26 GMT -8
Well, had a job up in Nanoose last week, and decided to take the CI back (little out of my way, rather than going to HSB), because I've been dying to check out these new beasts.
VERY nice boat, I must say. Really impressed by all the space, on both car and passenger decks. Coffee lounge is really nice. Found it a little odd that there's no inside access directly to the solarium areas, that you can't get to the covered areas without going out on the open deck. Not that I smoke, I was just exploring... but it was bleedin' cold with the wind and rain last Tuesday evening...
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Post by corporalrabbinoff on Dec 16, 2008 13:19:37 GMT -8
I am pretty sure you were on the Coastal Renaissance, The Inspiration has been out of service and sitting in Departure Bay for several weeks. The Renaissance is currently replacing the Inspiration on the Duke Point to Tsawwassen run, but they are very Identicle.
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Post by gordon on Dec 16, 2008 13:57:46 GMT -8
The CI has been tied up at DB for around 2 weeks having some warrenty work done. she is due back on route #30 Friday, allowing The CR to return to regular service on route #2.
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Post by hwy19man on Dec 18, 2008 14:27:49 GMT -8
No, the only ship in the southern fleet that has showers remains the Alberni. That is unfortunate. I know that a friend who works on route 1 said that showers on the other C-class vessels and other ships were requested by many customers on the island\mainland crossings. It makes sense that the second vessel on route 30 should have showers as well. For route 2, it also makes sense because when one has been on the road for a while and has to wait for three hours in warm or cold weather, it would terrific to freshen up with a shower.
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Post by Taxman on Dec 18, 2008 15:32:16 GMT -8
I don't know about Rt. 2 or Rt. 1, but although I never used it I think Rt. 30 is well placed for a shower. I was thinking, could the CI's Seawest be refitted into a showering facility?
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Post by Neil on Dec 18, 2008 15:55:53 GMT -8
I don't know about Rt. 2 or Rt. 1, but although I never used it I think Rt. 30 is well placed for a shower. I was thinking, could the CI's Seawest be refitted into a showering facility? The SeaWest lounge is probably big enough for about thirty showers. If you've never used route 30, how do you know there are so many smelly people on board? I can assure you, that as a route 30 user, I shower just as often as those bluebloods who leave their British Properties estates and travel through Horseshoe Bay. My home is actually fitted with a shower. So lay off the route 30 customers. Even the truckers smell okay.
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Post by Hardy on Dec 19, 2008 4:51:13 GMT -8
So lay off the route 30 customers. Even the truckers smell okay. Being one of those aforementioned, I'd like to chime in and say that it is not so much the 'smell' per se but the 'feel'. Most truck drivers know what deodorant is, and contrary to some popular belief, we need to have a lot of customer service skills - we do deal with people, not just haul stuff A->B. That feeling of having a coating of "grime" on you, or feeling slightly "tacky" from dried sweat (amazingly a more prevelant feeling in THIS weather when you are all bundled up) are some of the main factors for "throwing in the towel" and using a public shower. There are some truck stops (if you can call them that, because Metro Vancouver is NOT very truck friendly at all) that have showers. Most are commercial card lock fueling stations, and the showers can be in various states of dis-repair (you are at the whimsy of what the guy in front of you did, sometimes including rinsing off his slushy rusty tire chains!). You need to bring your own everything including FLIP-FLOPS (hint to everyone using public showers -- never EVER go into them with your bare feet unless you want to make multiple trips to your doctor/podiatrist).
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Post by Hardy on Jan 9, 2009 21:12:02 GMT -8
Do we have any word yet on what the ailment is that the CI came down with today? Glad that they were able to get the QoC pulled down from DepBay to cover for the CI ...
Whatever the Flensburgian Mechanical Flu is, it seems to have caught the CR too -- I guess that the CC has been eating her oranges and taking her ginko/echinachea mix ...
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Post by DENelson83 on Jan 9, 2009 21:14:01 GMT -8
I believe I heard on the 'A' News that the CI had a problem with her steering.
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Post by Coastal Canuck on Jan 10, 2009 10:34:33 GMT -8
She's back in service today
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Post by Taxman on Jan 10, 2009 15:42:47 GMT -8
I don't know about Rt. 2 or Rt. 1, but although I never used it I think Rt. 30 is well placed for a shower. I was thinking, could the CI's Seawest be refitted into a showering facility? The SeaWest lounge is probably big enough for about thirty showers. If you've never used route 30, how do you know there are so many smelly people on board? I can assure you, that as a route 30 user, I shower just as often as those bluebloods who leave their British Properties estates and travel through Horseshoe Bay. My home is actually fitted with a shower. So lay off the route 30 customers. Even the truckers smell okay. My appologies, I was not implying that, I frequently use route 30, I just haven't used the shower. I was just suggesting that the length of the route and the target market (overheight trucks and especially campers) combine better for route 30 than either of the main routes. Also, our esteemed trucker suggests that there is a lack of public shower facilities available in Metro Vancouver. I also note that both times I have been on the Alberni I saw people using the shower OR inquiring about it. I feel that these combine to support my initial assertion.
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Post by Hardy on Jan 11, 2009 3:45:34 GMT -8
Also, our esteemed trucker suggests that there is a lack of public shower facilities available in Metro Vancouver. I also note that both times I have been on the Alberni I saw people using the shower OR inquiring about it. "Esteemed"?? wow, a status-increase for me, to be sure! Anyways, it is not just public shower facilities in specific, rather ANY and ALL truck-stop type services. There are actual truck stops out in Chilliwack area, and a few informal ones between Abbotsford and Surrey, but nothing formal, or on the scale of actual "truck stops" or more commonly called "travel plazas". Those of you that have travelled throughout the United States know what I mean. The best you can do once you get into Metro Vancouver is a commercial cardlock site that has 5-10 "parking slots" where an OTR trucker can dump his rig and crash for the night. The cardlock may have a driver's "lounge" available (haha, a telephone, table, crappy old TV (maybe!) and sometimes a shower). Some of the older ones don't even have CAT-5 internet hookups, although there are usually plenty of unsecured WiFi around if you have your laptop set up. The lack of truck stops/plazas is a conscious decision by the cities; I think it is a silly one. They do not want to encourage truckers to run through or stay in their city, yet we need to deliver to and pick up from the warehouses and industrial areas that they so readily embrace for the bottom line tax base. Damned if you do and damned if you don't situation, being treated like the adopted red-headed step-child... [/vent] ;D
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Post by Northern Exploration on Jan 11, 2009 8:53:55 GMT -8
Also, our esteemed trucker suggests that there is a lack of public shower facilities available in Metro Vancouver. I also note that both times I have been on the Alberni I saw people using the shower OR inquiring about it. "Esteemed"?? wow, a status-increase for me, to be sure! Anyways, it is not just public shower facilities in specific, rather ANY and ALL truck-stop type services. There are actual truck stops out in Chilliwack area, and a few informal ones between Abbotsford and Surrey, but nothing formal, or on the scale of actual "truck stops" or more commonly called "travel plazas". Those of you that have travelled throughout the United States know what I mean. The best you can do once you get into Metro Vancouver is a commercial cardlock site that has 5-10 "parking slots" where an OTR trucker can dump his rig and crash for the night. The cardlock may have a driver's "lounge" available (haha, a telephone, table, crappy old TV (maybe!) and sometimes a shower). Some of the older ones don't even have CAT-5 internet hookups, although there are usually plenty of unsecured WiFi around if you have your laptop set up. The lack of truck stops/plazas is a conscious decision by the cities; I think it is a silly one. They do not want to encourage truckers to run through or stay in their city, yet we need to deliver to and pick up from the warehouses and industrial areas that they so readily embrace for the bottom line tax base. Damned if you do and damned if you don't situation, being treated like the adopted red-headed step-child... [/vent] ;D Since you are "venting" maybe a spanish person would say you are "es-steamed" .
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Post by corporalrabbinoff on Jan 21, 2009 20:01:04 GMT -8
Heads Up:
I was on todays 3:10 sailing from Gabriola to Nanaimo this afternoon and to my suprise I saw both Coastal ships off of Duke Point from the Bowen Queen. When I get more computer time I will upload pictures.
It was very cool to be on the Bowen Queen dodging behind the Coastal Renaissance then behind the outbound Inspiration.
Pictures will be added to the Proper "New Pictures" thread in the next several days.
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