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Post by princessofvanfan on May 8, 2010 0:23:35 GMT -8
I remember getting stuck on the Saltspring Queen going from Swartz Bay to Fulford...man, that thing was slow. Trip took damn near an hour. Interesting old boat, though. I used to enjoy the Vesuvius Queen to Crofton when I was a kid. Loved the old wooden benches and brass fixtures up top.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 27, 2010 14:28:37 GMT -8
From the BC archives (originally posted by Retro in April 2006) -------- Saltspring Queen at Fulford Harbour. - she's still showing the "Delta Princess" name on her hull. I saved the photo and then enlarged it, and although the wording is fuzzy, it's clear that it's a short name followed by a long name. www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/cgi-bin/www2i/.visual/img_med/dir_26/i_26722.gif
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Post by sebsbcferries on Nov 22, 2011 17:05:11 GMT -8
Klitsa could run Crofton-Vesuvius as the Howe sound Queen is to be retired soon. WHAT?? Wow good thing I already got a video of 'er
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 22, 2011 18:27:10 GMT -8
Klitsa could run Crofton-Vesuvius as the Howe sound Queen is to be retired soon. WHAT?? Wow good thing I already got a video of 'er Keep in mind that the post you quoted is six years old. BCF doesn't have any immediate plans to retire the HSQ.
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Post by Mike C on Nov 23, 2011 14:13:07 GMT -8
WHAT?? Wow good thing I already got a video of 'er Keep in mind that the post you quoted is six years old. BCF doesn't have any immediate plans to retire the HSQ. ...not to mention that is an unlikely and non-viable solution - the HSQ does sail full at 70 AEQ, the Klitsa is back to work full-time and has a 26 AEQ (or something like that). As Luke said, despite the HSQ's shortcomings, there are no immediate plans to retire her. She recieved an MLU within the past couple years. I suggest redirecting your attention to the Howe Sound Queen thread for further discussion.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 18, 2012 21:16:33 GMT -8
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Post by mrdot on Feb 18, 2012 22:05:48 GMT -8
:)what a time capsule pic. of the old delta queen at the foot of rice mill road not far from the deas isl. tunnel sections would be constructed at the basen which in a few years would be the deas dock maintence base for the new ferry system. This marked the start of very rapid change for all transportation, and very fast change in the entire region! :)mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 12, 2013 19:03:37 GMT -8
A photo of the "Salty" working as the Delta Princess. - seen by me at the Sidney museum. Yes, it really does say "Delta Princess" on her side.
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Post by Mike C on Nov 12, 2013 19:33:25 GMT -8
A photo of the "Salty" working as the Delta Princess. - seen by me at the Sidney museum. Was this during her time working the pre-George Massey Tunnel run? Photos from this section of the former ferry's resume seem to be few and far between. I do the aforementioned stretch of road every weekday, and I always have a hard time imagining waiting for a ferry.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 12, 2013 19:43:58 GMT -8
A photo of the "Salty" working as the Delta Princess. - seen by me at the Sidney museum. Was this during her time working the pre-George Massey Tunnel run? Photos from this section of the former ferry's resume seem to be few and far between. I do the aforementioned stretch of road every weekday, and I always have a hard time imagining waiting for a ferry. It looks to me like this would be from the pastel-blue era of BC Ferries. - that's because a previous post in this thread of her on the Fraser River shows a black hull. It's not uncommon for a vessel new to BCF to firstly get her new livery before she gets her new name. The same thing happened with Motor Princess and also with Sonia. So I think this photo is of her in Southern Gulf Islands service.
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Post by Nick on Nov 12, 2013 20:42:22 GMT -8
Was this during her time working the pre-George Massey Tunnel run? Photos from this section of the former ferry's resume seem to be few and far between. I do the aforementioned stretch of road every weekday, and I always have a hard time imagining waiting for a ferry. It looks to me like this would be from the pastel-blue era of BC Ferries. - that's because a previous post in this thread of her on the Fraser River shows a black hull. It's not uncommon for a vessel new to BCF to firstly get her new livery before she gets her new name. The same thing happened with Motor Princess and also with Sonia. So I think this photo is of her in Southern Gulf Islands service. The landscape in the background doesn't really look like the Fraser much, either.
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Post by WettCoast on Nov 12, 2013 20:52:01 GMT -8
I gather that the Salty kept the name Delta Princess from the time BC Ferries acquired the Gulf Island ferry company (1961) until BC Ferries mass-rechristened almost all the ferries as 'Queens'. That took place in 1963 when the first 'Queens' (the Esquimalt & Saanich) were introduced.
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Post by Mike C on Feb 16, 2014 17:27:53 GMT -8
I found this on Google Maps the other day. Upon further evaluation, it appears to have the same vehicle deck pattern as the SSQ/VQ. www.google.com/maps/@49.0856084,-123.1098066,60m/data=!3m1!1e3 (copy/paste into browser)I went down there today to see if I could get a glimpse, but no avail. Anyone have any thoughts...?
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Post by Neil on Feb 16, 2014 22:58:42 GMT -8
I found this on Google Maps the other day. Upon further evaluation, it appears to have the same vehicle deck pattern as the SSQ/VQ. www.google.com/maps/@49.0856084,-123.1098066,60m/data=!3m1!1e3 (copy/paste into browser)I went down there today to see if I could get a glimpse, but no avail. Anyone have any thoughts...? I'm not clear about this reference, and I can't make the address work- are you saying this is local? Where, exactly?
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Post by Curtis on Feb 17, 2014 2:27:49 GMT -8
The place Mike C is referring to is at Port Guichon in Ladner near 41b Street and River Road. Link (this should work)
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Post by Mike C on Feb 17, 2014 8:29:43 GMT -8
I found this on Google Maps the other day. Upon further evaluation, it appears to have the same vehicle deck pattern as the SSQ/VQ. www.google.com/maps/@49.0856084,-123.1098066,60m/data=!3m1!1e3 (copy/paste into browser)I went down there today to see if I could get a glimpse, but no avail. Anyone have any thoughts...? I'm not clear about this reference, and I can't make the address work- are you saying this is local? Where, exactly?
Sorry for not elaborating on this (or having a working link) - what Curtis posted seems to work a lot better. The vessel (or what's left of it) is at Lions Gate Fisheries on River Road, according to the satellite imagery provided by Google Earth. When I went to the adjacent Ladner Marina, I couldn't see it from the dyke, nor could I see it from the pier at Wellington Park to the west, which has a view down the shoreline. It seems that the only way to get a visual confirmation is to either access the Lions Gate Fisheries compound, or rent some kayaks and check it out from the water.
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Post by WettCoast on Feb 17, 2014 10:48:58 GMT -8
That does look like a small ferry, but if its the Salty, then she must have lost most of her superstructure. Perhaps this was once one of the the BC Highways ferries serving on the coast, or up the Fraser River.
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Post by Mike C on Feb 17, 2014 11:20:59 GMT -8
That does look like a small ferry, but if its the Salty, then she must have lost most of her superstructure. Perhaps this was once one of the the BC Highways ferries serving on the coast, or up the Fraser River. What made me think it was the SSQ was the four lane configuration, and the center separation where the superstructure/engine room access would be. I am definitely open to the idea that it could be a BC Highways ferry, or even another former ferry that may have made it's way up the coast.
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Post by Neil on Feb 17, 2014 12:26:41 GMT -8
That does look like a small ferry, but if its the Salty, then she must have lost most of her superstructure. Perhaps this was once one of the the BC Highways ferries serving on the coast, or up the Fraser River. What made me think it was the SSQ was the four lane configuration, and the center separation where the superstructure/engine room access would be. I am definitely open to the idea that it could be a BC Highways ferry, or even another former ferry that may have made it's way up the coast. It looks exactly like the SSQ/VQ to me. None of the long retired highways vessels on the coast had four lanes, nor did the Albion or Agassiz boats. The deck profile certainly fits. Also, if you look at the vehicles nearby, it looks like this vessel may have carried 32-36, which would be right.
Is there no access through what looks like scrubby vacant land adjacent, or is that swamp, or perhaps fenced off?
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Post by Mike C on Feb 17, 2014 12:45:05 GMT -8
What made me think it was the SSQ was the four lane configuration, and the center separation where the superstructure/engine room access would be. I am definitely open to the idea that it could be a BC Highways ferry, or even another former ferry that may have made it's way up the coast. It looks exactly like the SSQ/VQ to me. None of the long retired highways vessels on the coast had four lanes, nor did the Albion or Agassiz boats. The deck profile certainly fits. Also, if you look at the vehicles nearby, it looks like this vessel may have carried 32-36, which would be right.
Is there no access through what looks like scrubby vacant land adjacent, or is that swamp, or perhaps fenced off?
Further venturing was prevented by a combination of rogue blackberry bushes and poor weather. I considered scaling the swampy area a little more, but ultimately decided against it - the barbed wire fence was rather discouraging. The dyke is a greenway and open to the public, but it seems that's as far as one would get.
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Post by Neil on Feb 17, 2014 13:36:41 GMT -8
Further venturing was prevented by a combination of rogue blackberry bushes and poor weather. I considered scaling the swampy area a little more, but ultimately decided against it - the barbed wire fence was rather discouraging. The dyke is a greenway and open to the public, but it seems that's as far as one would get. Blackberry bushes? Poor weather? Swamp? Barbed wire? I can almost hear Canadian Viking chortling in derision.
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Post by WettCoast on Feb 17, 2014 14:04:37 GMT -8
The canoe/kayak rental would be the way to go. Easy to explore the river front by that route. Or maybe rent a powered boat & do the Ladner waterfront & then go up the river, say to Deas and see what sort of shots you might get. Some WCFF members toured Horseshoe Bay last year in a small powered boat & got some pretty nice photos...
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 19, 2014 7:58:17 GMT -8
I checked with Lions Gate Fisheries, and they didn't know about an old ferry nearby. Perhaps one of their neighbours knows.
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Post by Mike C on Feb 21, 2014 12:26:30 GMT -8
I have recieved confirmation this morning that we have correctly identified the vessel as the Delta Princess, later Saltspring Queen.
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Post by gnaz on May 27, 2015 15:03:09 GMT -8
Steamship Historical Society Archives, www.sshsa.org. Photos used with Permission.
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