Neil
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Post by Neil on Oct 27, 2013 17:47:40 GMT -8
The Quillayute was long gone by 1978. She was Retired in 63. More likely the wooden car deck we see here is the Pender Queen. Thanks, Curtis. I was thinking that the picture may have been taken earlier than what's mentioned, but it's true that the Pender Queen was still around in '78. Interesting, as I never knew the Pender Queen made her way up to Jervis Inlet from her usual stomping grounds in the SGI... Three or four years ago, I posted a schedule which showed the Pender Queen sailing along with the Powell River Queen, summers, late '70s . That was before the PRQ was stretched. Don't know what thread that might be in.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 27, 2013 18:37:23 GMT -8
Thanks, Curtis. I was thinking that the picture may have been taken earlier than what's mentioned, but it's true that the Pender Queen was still around in '78. Interesting, as I never knew the Pender Queen made her way up to Jervis Inlet from her usual stomping grounds in the SGI... Three or four years ago, I posted a schedule which showed the Pender Queen sailing along with the Powell River Queen, summers, late '70s . That was before the PRQ was stretched. Don't know what thread that might be in. Here it is: Conclusive Proof found here
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Post by mrdot on Oct 27, 2013 19:08:16 GMT -8
:)I vividly remember the day I was subing on the Mayne Queen and I reported on the wooden deck of the old motor princess as she was the on refit, and I was not at all used to loading a wooden car deck! that was long ago in the late 1960's the other vivid memory was the hugemougus steering wheel! mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 16, 2015 18:31:09 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 23, 2016 20:26:39 GMT -8
Many lovely inside views of Pender Queen in this facebook album of Mr. Dave Bartle. SEEN HEREThe in berth shots are at Fulford Harbour, which looked much different then. You can spot small glimpses of Tachek in two of the shots. Photo albums like this one (Mr. Bartle is a retired chief engineer, formerly on Queen of Nanaimo) are gems of history.
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Post by northwesterner on Dec 23, 2016 21:01:48 GMT -8
Many lovely inside views of Pender Queen in this facebook album of Mr. Dave Bartle. SEEN HEREThe in berth shots are at Fulford Harbour, which looked much different then. You can spot small glimpses of Tachek in two of the shots. Photo albums like this one (Mr. Bartle is a retired chief engineer, formerly on Queen of Nanaimo) are gems of history. Any idea what the Tachek was doing at the time?
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Post by Neil on Dec 23, 2016 22:17:13 GMT -8
Many lovely inside views of Pender Queen in this facebook album of Mr. Dave Bartle. SEEN HEREThe in berth shots are at Fulford Harbour, which looked much different then. You can spot small glimpses of Tachek in two of the shots. Photo albums like this one (Mr. Bartle is a retired chief engineer, formerly on Queen of Nanaimo) are gems of history. Any idea what the Tachek was doing at the time? If I could butt in here... I know that Tachek did get borrowed from Highways to do supplementary service on route five, and if the Pender Queen photo is at Fulford, it may also have been that the two were serving there during a Bowen Queen refit.
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 23, 2016 22:42:14 GMT -8
Do we know exactly when the Texada Queen became the Tachek, and when the PQ was finally retired? I am trying to get my head around the history here.
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Post by Neil on Dec 23, 2016 22:58:27 GMT -8
Do we know exactly when the Texada Queen became the Tachek, and when the PQ was finally retired? I am trying to get my head around the history here. From Nauticapedia... Texada Queen renamed in 1978, Pender Queen laid up in 1980, and TC registry closed in 2008.
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Post by Starsteward on Dec 24, 2016 7:24:34 GMT -8
Looking at the numbers '13' and '12' at the centre stern line of the 'PQ', am I to assume that this wee ferry boat had a draught of about 11 feet? If the draught is correct that is truly amazing for a vessel of that age and size. The old 'Motor Princess' does take one back in time though.
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 24, 2016 15:06:16 GMT -8
Looking at the numbers '13' and '12' at the centre stern line of the 'PQ', am I to assume that this wee ferry boat had a draught of about 11 feet? If the draught is correct that is truly amazing for a vessel of that age and size. The old 'Motor Princess' does take one back in time though. You're quite right, that seems to be a bit of a deep draught for a vessel of that size. For comparison, the Skeena Queen draws about 3.25m and the Bowen/Mayne draw about 3.35m.
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Post by chinook2 on May 26, 2017 0:33:05 GMT -8
Alright: one more historical photo scan from me. This one is credited as being the provincial archives, but I couldn't find it in a search of the archives website catalogue. Anyway, the version that I found in an old book was nice and big. So, here we have the Motor Princess, docked and loading cars at Tsawwassen of all places. Now this is, of course, not the Tsawwassen terminal out on the end of a causeway that we know today. Back then, the ferry docked right at the beach, near the town of Steveston. (I dunno if i've ever typed the word Tsawwassen so many times before. At least when I'm typing, no one can complain about how I'm pronouncing the word. It's funny to see how few cars are waiting to the ferry. Tiny compared to now, even pretty small compared to the Albion ferry in her last years of operation. This must be Sidney. Nt. Newton in the mid ground, Malahat in the back.
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Post by coastal memories on Apr 19, 2019 18:24:15 GMT -8
Three or four years ago, I posted a schedule which showed the Pender Queen sailing along with the Powell River Queen, summers, late '70s . That was before the PRQ was stretched. Don't know what thread that might be in. Here it is: Conclusive Proof found hereI actually was able to sail on the Pender Queen during that era. I remember the horseshoe shaped lunch counter. After her retirement, Queen of the Islands worked a summer as the extra vessel on Route 7.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 26, 2019 14:16:51 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on May 29, 2020 20:01:11 GMT -8
Looking through the 1983 Ferryboats- A Legend on Puget Sound (M.S. Kline, G.A. Bayless, Bayless Books, Seattle), I was surprised to see that the Motor Princess, built in 1923, was the first ferry where one could drive on one end and off the other. Since it was part of a discussion of ferries in general at the time, I'm assuming the authors meant in either B.C. or Washington waters. Maybe I'd read this before and forgotten it.
If that assertion doesn't contradict anything else in the book, and if no one has proved otherwise, it seems highly ironic. It can be argued that the CPR dug their own grave on our coast by failing to adapt to an increasingly car-centric culture in the 1950s, continuing to employ pocket liners that took cars and trucks almost as an unwanted burden. Even when they built the Princess of Nanaimo and Princess of Vancouver, they loaded from the stern, and, I believe, through doors on either port or starboard, forward.
They had pioneered a truly drive on, drive off ferry for their Sidney to Bellingham route in 1923, and then did nothing further to truly modernize their service. It was like someone thought... "Let's do something radical"... and then, "nope, stick to the past". They gave an old dinosaur like W.A.C. Bennett an opportunity to look like a visionary when he started B.C. Ferries.
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