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Post by Curtis on May 12, 2006 7:01:17 GMT -8
That's the oldest photo Taken from Little River I've seen yet looks like it hasn't changed much since then
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Post by Mike C on May 12, 2006 8:08:31 GMT -8
...It hasn't changed a bit....
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Post by EGfleet on May 12, 2006 15:01:52 GMT -8
Another old photo of the Sechelt QueenSee if you can figure out where, when, etc. Wow another great photo of my favorite retired boat! Thanks again for sharing. Boy...those colors weren't very flattering on the old girl, were they?
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Post by Mike C on May 12, 2006 17:23:41 GMT -8
I highly detest the colour scheme on our BC Ministry of Transportation boats, it looks ugly and quite plain...
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Post by WettCoast on May 12, 2006 22:34:53 GMT -8
The BC Hwys Dept colour scheme was perhaps even worse then the current "two slugs mating" scheme use by BCFS.
The photo was taken on 15 July 1978 on Comox - Powell River run.
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Post by Neil on May 13, 2006 8:52:36 GMT -8
Dept. of Highways did absolutely nothing more than the safety minimum to maintain the Sechelt Queen. It was disgraceful the state they let her get into.
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Post by Mike C on May 13, 2006 9:00:39 GMT -8
This is beginning to sound a lot like the Queen of Chilliwack...
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2006 9:15:32 GMT -8
Her interior must have been in bad shape as well. The pics I have seen of her as the Chinook the passenger lounges were really nice. I don't think they were that way when BCF had here either. Does anyone have a deck plans or interior photos of her? I have always wondered what she how she was laid out inside.
I was supposed to ride her in 1983 between Comox and Powell River but they had taken her off the route just a week earlier. As a kid I was very disappointed. The NIP was on there in her place at that time. The morning we went to ride it was so windy the North Island Princess backed out of the dock, did a 360 and went back in. They had to turn the cars around on the cardeck to get us off.
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Post by Curtis on May 13, 2006 10:25:01 GMT -8
Would have hated for that to happen to me as well.
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Post by bcfcbccsscollector on Aug 14, 2006 21:36:37 GMT -8
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Post by Biff Fisticuffs on Aug 16, 2006 12:27:06 GMT -8
I'm taking a chance here, but I'm pretty certain the "DOT" collection stands for: "David 'O Thorne" Longtime artist & historian with BCF. He's even mentioned in Bannerman's book. Do you actually know David, Westcoast, or at least have ties to him? If you DO, then you will no-doubt have an UNBELEIVABLE source for old pics & drawings from back in the day:)
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Post by kylefossett on Aug 16, 2006 14:27:57 GMT -8
oh good biff seems to be back. i thought it was getting pretty boring on here
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Aug 16, 2006 15:07:23 GMT -8
LOL!!!!!!!!! something was missing in your pictue eh kyle?
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Post by Mike C on Aug 16, 2006 15:27:33 GMT -8
By the time she retired, she looked like this on the inside though... There's a farmiliar sight, could be seen on ANY BC Ferry back in the day. The dogwood carpet, comfy purple seats, blue plastic chairs and oak-finished tables... all just a flashback for the older members. The encounterable "Comfy Purple Seat" now with his partner the "Comfy Green Seat" can still be spotted onboard any V or B class, not including the Nanaimo. Also, on the PR Queen and the Alberni. The Burnaby has gone to a certain depth, and has invented the "Comfy Purple High-back Seat which can keep you there for the entire sailing. And, the QPR has come up with the "Comfy White Seat" so you can enjoy the scenery in a chair the same colour as your iPod. The "Blue Plastic Chairs" are still available for viewing (sitting in them is NOT RECCOMENDED, consult a physician before sitting in them) on the Tsawwassen, and maybe some other places too. Same with the "Ugly Tables with Oak Finish."
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Post by BIGMAC on Aug 16, 2006 15:31:48 GMT -8
The chairs as I recall used to be brown and not blue(ish) and red(ish) as they are today.
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Post by WettCoast on Aug 16, 2006 20:16:05 GMT -8
I'm taking a chance here, but I'm pretty certain the "DOT" collection stands for: "David 'O Thorne" Longtime artist & historian with BCF. He's even mentioned in Bannerman's book. Do you actually know David, Westcoast, or at least have ties to him? If you DO, then you will no-doubt have an UNBELIEVABLE source for old pics & drawings from back in the day:) Message to Biff - you are correct. I have known him since my birth and yes I do have access to his collection. For more see the link below (scroll way down the linked page), and my photo site linked at the very bottom of my 'signature' photo which is actually one of David's drawings. Also, If you like, you could send me either a PM or email. ferriesbc.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=rrr&action=display&thread=1136690463&page=3
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Post by Ferryman on Aug 16, 2006 20:36:27 GMT -8
That's great you have a connection with David Thorne. He was also the one to make the drawings in Peter Favelle's, "Queen of British Columbia" book. The drawings mostly highlight the changes that were made to the Ferries in the 70s, like the stretching of the 7 sisters, and the conversion of the North Island Princess.
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Post by Fenklebaum on Aug 17, 2006 20:28:35 GMT -8
*grins a manic grin* What're the odds that he'll put his collection up on fotopic? 100:1? 1000...? Place your bets.
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Post by Curtis on Sept 14, 2006 15:34:25 GMT -8
Now that looks nice.
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Post by EGfleet on Nov 11, 2006 21:26:52 GMT -8
Here's another update, for those interested... First, let me say the combing through old SEC filings is just about as mind numbing as you'd imagine them to be. It does however, leave a nice paper trail. So, here's how it stands. Sea World Processors only assest was the old Sechelt Queen, which they sold (or rather, were absorbed by) Monarch Resorts and Casino in 1994. They took over the Sechelt Queen for a cool 1.3 million, planning on turning her into the afore mention casino Muskegon Clipper in...of all places...Gary, Indiana, on the shores of Lake Michigan. It seems that a full set of plans for the redevlopment of the old girl were in place, a yard was assigned and work started when Monarch lost their bid on getting a gambling license. Oops, stike one. So they tried St. Louis, MO. Strike two. Last word on them about the M.V. Monarch, as it had been named by this time: "Sea World was purchased in February 1994, also to pursue gaming opportunities in Gary, Indiana. Sea World's sole asset was a marine vessel, ( Sechelt Queen) which the Company (Monarch Resorts and Casino) wrote off in 1996 and divested in 1997. " Translation: The old boat was sucking us dry so we got rid of it. Now, this would fit perfectly with the story I first heard about 7 years ago about the ferry having been stripped of her passenger cabin and then unexpectedly scrapped in 1997. I'm going to see if I can't track down a bill of sale somehow, but I'd bet it would be a pretty safe wager that at the auction she was sold to a scrapping firm. So it seems having dogged determination (or a relentless obsession) does pay off from time to time. I'm sure everyone is rather tired of me bringing up the old dame, but she was and remains my favorite, so I'd like to see her story to the definative end. I know there are some fans of her among you as well, so I try to share the info as I get it.
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Post by Ferryman on Nov 11, 2006 21:55:36 GMT -8
Thank you, Evergreen Fleet, for your hard work in researching the Sechelt Queen.
Here I had thought she might just happen to be around still, in some sort of the same conditions the Queen of Sidney is currently in. But wow, she was scrapped 9 years ago. So really, now there's no more oldies that were purchased by BCF around anymore, that were purchased from the 1960's, till the late 1985, that I can think of.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 11, 2006 22:22:52 GMT -8
Thanks very much for the update, Mr. E.G. Fleet.
ps: are you related to "Lookout Frederick Fleet"?
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Post by Curtis on Nov 13, 2006 10:01:25 GMT -8
Well, she's gone now too. There goes all the former Canadian Blackball Ferries.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 13, 2006 17:02:09 GMT -8
A side-bar musing:
I find that I prefer the name "Chinook" to "Sechelt Queen".
Do any of you prefer to think of a ship in one of it's former names?
ie. Will Langdale Queen be more fondly remembered as Kahloke, or City of Sacramento?
Or is it just a matter of familiarity...based on the name during the era when you first noticed the ship?
However, for me, I always liked the name "Stena Danica" for Q-North.
I realise that names are simply a legal identifier....but I also see the name as part of the character of the ship. A part of her history to appreciate.
What do you folks think?
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Nov 13, 2006 17:42:15 GMT -8
Well, As far as I'm concerned it could go both ways. For instance: In MY opinion, Queen of Vancouver Sounds better the City of Vancouver. However, I think that names like Denman Queen (Klitsa) Comox Queen (Tenaka) Quadra Queen, Cortes Queen (Nicola) Texada Queen (Tachek) Sound alot better. So as far as i see it. It works to like the old name or the new name better.
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