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Post by mybidness459 on Nov 20, 2016 14:05:09 GMT -8
After studying the photos of the cardeck am I correct in assuming Trucks, Campers, RVS, and the like will be parked on the Upper Deck, and the lower deck will be for under hights only. This is backwards of the Normal.
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Nov 20, 2016 14:13:19 GMT -8
After studying the photos of the cardeck am I correct in assuming Trucks, Campers, RVS, and the like will be parked on the Upper Deck, and the lower deck will be for under hights only. This is backwards of the Normal. Yep, that's correct.
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Post by Dane on Nov 20, 2016 15:54:01 GMT -8
Backwards for us. Where we are generally backwards to everywhere outside of the North American West Coast.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 20, 2016 17:22:05 GMT -8
After studying the photos of the cardeck am I correct in assuming Trucks, Campers, RVS, and the like will be parked on the Upper Deck, and the lower deck will be for under hights only. This is backwards of the Normal. Yes Mr. Marsbar, you are correct. This will be different and new for the BC Fleet, but similar to what these similar ships do in Norway.
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 20, 2016 19:21:22 GMT -8
After studying the photos of the cardeck am I correct in assuming Trucks, Campers, RVS, and the like will be parked on the Upper Deck, and the lower deck will be for under hights only. This is backwards of the Normal. Yes Mr. Marsbar, you are correct. This will be different and new for the BC Fleet, but similar to what these similar ships do in Norway. And similar to the MV Confederation of Northumberland Ferries over in PEI. I got to experience the "below deck garage" on that vessel a couple of summers ago.
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Post by Scott on Nov 22, 2016 2:09:35 GMT -8
Salish Orca is now on the move with her destination showing as Tenerife.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 22, 2016 7:25:42 GMT -8
Our Gdansk facebook friend Jakob Boguki has posted some photos of S'Orca leaving Gdansk. You can find them on his facebook (if you use that) HERE
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Post by timmyc on Nov 22, 2016 15:30:02 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 25, 2016 19:58:51 GMT -8
The latest official word on the delivery of Eagle & Raven:
[italic bold comments are mine]
My commentary assumes that the ships will be delivered near the end of each quarter, because delays seem to be common on this contract.
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Post by Dane on Nov 28, 2016 21:52:08 GMT -8
Thanks for the update, Mike.
Glad the Bowen may have one year for the sole reason that I didn't get a ride in 2016. Of course from a capacity perspective that could be a bit of a gong show if the Nanaimo has been retired for the summer.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 28, 2016 22:17:20 GMT -8
Thanks for the update, Mike. Glad the Bowen may have one year for the sole reason that I didn't get a ride in 2016. Of course from a capacity perspective that could be a bit of a gong show if the Nanaimo has been retired for the summer. Keep in mind this is purely my amateur interpretation. I don't know how long it would take to get the Raven into service if she arrives here by mid-May or so. If she doesn't arrive until June, then I'm thinking July is too early for in-service. I think the same thing happened with Coastal Celebration where she arrived not-quite-in-time to be trained-up and ready for summer service on Route-1. She sat out the summer tied-up looking pretty. --------- late edit: - Coastal Celebration arrived June 18th 2008, and went into service the following November.
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Post by WettCoast on Nov 28, 2016 22:39:10 GMT -8
Keeping the Nanaimo in reserve for next summer might be a good thing.
Keeping her operable over the next two years while the Spirits are visiting Poland might be a good idea too. If something goes badly wrong (e.g. a major breakdown of another major vessel, or delayed return of a Spirit) the 175 car capacity of the Nanaimo could prove useful.
But I expect BCFS will decommission the Nanaimo just as soon as they can, and hope that luck will carry them through the next couple of years.
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Post by Starsteward on Nov 29, 2016 6:32:33 GMT -8
Keeping the Nanaimo in reserve for next summer might be a good thing. Keeping her operable over the next two years while the Spirits are visiting Poland might be a good idea too. If something goes badly wrong (e.g. a major breakdown of another major vessel, or delayed return of a Spirit) the 175 car capacity of the Nanaimo could prove useful. But I expect BCFS will decommission the Nanaimo just as soon as they can, and hope that luck will carry them through the next couple of years. Wholeheartedly agree with the notion of keeping the 'Nanny' around and ready to fill in while the 'Spirits' are off on their European facelifts. The Summer season has historically been the time of year that things go wonkey for BCF and a wee bit of 'back-up' would be greatly appreciated by frustrated ferry travellers far too many times. Sadly however, I concur with 'Wett Coast' that saving dollars will trump (no pun intended) good planning and customer service.
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Post by Dane on Dec 29, 2016 22:45:03 GMT -8
User dod posted this Salish Orca video in the delivery thread but it seems appropriate here too as I know sometimes we reference these posts in the future:
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 30, 2016 17:42:23 GMT -8
Just another milestone to report....
Salish Eagle showed up on AIS for one of the first times about 12 hrs ago. A profile has finally been made on marine traffic, but still no photos uploaded yet.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 4, 2017 8:30:26 GMT -8
From the BCFS submission to the Ferry Commissioner to approve new Minor-44 ships is this here mention of future uses of Salish Class vessels:
All part of fleet standardization.
It is interesting that Route-6 (Crofton - Vesuvius) is mentioned as a future Salish Class route, when in near-future it will be a minor-44 route. Standardization isn't always smooth of nicely fitting.
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Post by Kahloke on Jan 4, 2017 9:48:20 GMT -8
From the BCFS submission to the Ferry Commissioner to approve new Minor-44 ships is this here mention of future uses of Salish Class vessels: All part of fleet standardization. It is interesting that Route-6 (Crofton - Vesuvius) is mentioned as a future Salish Class route, when in near-future it will be a minor-44 route. Standardization isn't always smooth of nicely fitting. I could see a Salish on Routes 4 & 5, but it seems like overkill on Routes 6 and 19, unless they construct a variant of the design that eliminates the garage deck. According to schematic views I have seen on a previous post in this thread, the main car deck accommodates 86 vehicles. That might actually be a good size for Routes 6 & 19.
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Post by YoursTruly on Feb 9, 2017 12:49:16 GMT -8
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Post by Kahn_C on Feb 9, 2017 17:36:03 GMT -8
I have to agree, I really like that design.
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Post by Dane on Feb 9, 2017 19:12:44 GMT -8
Certainly the most conservative design of the three. I think all three look quite nice, though; I was wondering what they would do with the Raven being a distinctly postured bird and this looks quite stunning. I think these ships are a great visual representation of parts of our Coast's diverse cultures.
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Post by WettCoast on Feb 9, 2017 20:46:21 GMT -8
The graphics look fine except for the fact that they are enclosing the ferry's name plate & port of registry within the graphic. The graphic & name clash, IMHO. The name & port of registry should be positioned as for the S Orca.
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Post by YoursTruly on Feb 10, 2017 10:02:53 GMT -8
The graphics look fine except for the fact that they are enclosing the ferry's name plate & port of registry within the graphic. The graphic & name clash, IMHO. The name & port of registry should be positioned as for the S Orca. Yeah I agree. It is an interesting thing actually now that you mention it. I wonder if the name is cut in or raised on the superstructure plating in those exact positions or all three vessels have it in the exact same place with that wrap going over top of it. Consistency in a sister ship and fleet standardization should be a thing. I recall on the Queen of Vancouver being able to see City of Vancouver underneath the paint.
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Post by Starsteward on Feb 10, 2017 13:22:29 GMT -8
The graphics look fine except for the fact that they are enclosing the ferry's name plate & port of registry within the graphic. The graphic & name clash, IMHO. The name & port of registry should be positioned as for the S Orca. Make that 2 IMHO's for the graphic and name clash. A vessel's name and port of registry should always be distinguishable and separate from any other 'hull-art'. The folks at NCL come to mind with their grand hull-art, which does not interface with their vessels' name and 'POR'. 'Stateliness' of appearance was always a hallmark of the great ocean liners of yesteryear and holds true today with the fine CUNARD liners. But, we're talking ferry boats here aren't we?
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Post by blackshadow on Feb 11, 2017 9:40:32 GMT -8
The Eagle has departed for BC according to Marine Traffic.
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Post by Kahn_C on Mar 7, 2017 22:12:22 GMT -8
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