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Post by mybidness459 on Nov 28, 2016 15:16:38 GMT -8
So.,... What is the reason why the Tachek is not on her regular run if it is not for her refit?
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Post by roeco on Nov 29, 2016 3:39:38 GMT -8
She will be doing Powell River to Texada filling in for the North Island Princess
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Post by Neil on Dec 4, 2016 11:50:12 GMT -8
Anyone by the water in the Vancouver-Victoria-Nanaimo area who can explain all the service interruptions when EC's posted wind speeds wouldn't seem to justify it? Even Crofton to Vesuvius is down...
Just gusty up here by Hornby.
(edit: just looking at windytv's wind map, I see that there is a lot of turbulence centred right over Tsawwassen.)
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 4, 2016 13:43:08 GMT -8
I came across on the 08:30 sailing handled by the Queen of Oak Bay this morning, and there were quite strong winds from the North West, ie winds howling down from the north end of the Strait of Georgia. Upon our departure, we were given a heads up by the Master that there are strong arctic outflow winds on the Strait today, and to stay seated as much as possible, and the elevators were to be locked out for the crossing. It was a little bit of a bumpy trip, and we were taking the seas on our port quarter for the most part, allowing us to surf across the Strait quite nicely. I've seen far worse on the strait, and the ride wasn't uncomfortable by any means. That being said, closer to Tsawwassen, there is more of a 'fetch' for the waves to build up for with this NW wind direction, especially when combined with a flood tide, which will cause the waves to steepen with the two oposing forces acting upon each other.
A wise Captain once told me, "You might be a hero if you safely land the vessel in the wind everytime. But all it takes is one rough landing with someone getting hurt, and your name is now mud".
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Post by hwy19man on Dec 26, 2016 21:52:07 GMT -8
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Post by Koastal Karl on Dec 27, 2016 9:53:44 GMT -8
Tell me why route 2 was cancelled?? And yet it was blowing at Tsawwassen and they still ran out of that terminal. The New West left Duke Point at 6:08pm and I saw her arrive at Tsawwassen as I was on the 9pm she arrived at 9:08 which was a 3 hour sailing from Duke Point. She tied up after that and the Inspiration used berth 5 for her last sailing as the SOBC was about 30 mins behind too.
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Post by Neil on Dec 29, 2016 11:50:12 GMT -8
I know that both Westview and Little River are completely exposed, but it seems absurd that the 'Burnaby can't sail when it's gusting to 16k on one side, and 37 on the other. I'm sure route 17 patrons are going to be mighty disappointed if the new Salish vessel doesn't have a better weather record.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 29, 2016 12:20:54 GMT -8
I know that both Westview and Little River are completely exposed, but it seems absurd that the ' Burnaby can't sail when it's gusting to 16k on one side, and 37 on the other. I'm sure route 17 patrons are going to be mighty disappointed if the new Salish vessel doesn't have a better weather record. From my understanding of the issue, much of the Comox-Westview route cancellations are because of the Queen of Burnaby's bad propeller and the impact of that disability on her seakeeping. Salish Orca will be an improvement in the situation of weather cancellations.
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Post by Neil on Dec 29, 2016 15:29:59 GMT -8
I know that both Westview and Little River are completely exposed, but it seems absurd that the ' Burnaby can't sail when it's gusting to 16k on one side, and 37 on the other. I'm sure route 17 patrons are going to be mighty disappointed if the new Salish vessel doesn't have a better weather record. From my understanding of the issue, much of the Comox-Westview route cancellations are because of the Queen of Burnaby's bad propeller and the impact of that disability on her seakeeping. Salish Orca will be an improvement in the situation of weather cancellations. I'm aware of the ' Burnaby's problems, and I imagine the regular travellers are as well. Unfortunately, all the cancellations are not going to leave a very good final impression on people, and it's likely that her retirement will provoke a sentiment of "good riddance" Not how we'd like to see her go out.
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Post by Kahn_C on Dec 29, 2016 16:36:58 GMT -8
The Orca better not have the same weather matrix as the Burnaby; if it can make it across the Atlantic in winter but can't 'safely' cross the Straight of Georgia there's something seriously wrong somewhere.
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Post by Dane on Apr 7, 2017 13:28:08 GMT -8
Everything after and including 3pm is cancelled today on all the mainline routes. Windyyyyyyyyy
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Post by Neil on Apr 7, 2017 14:36:25 GMT -8
Everything after and including 3pm is cancelled today on all the mainline routes. Windyyyyyyyyy ...and their website is basically not working right now, for reservations. Must be a crash of customers.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 8, 2017 11:17:31 GMT -8
Minor shuffle season is starting:
For April to mid-June, the following happens:
1) NIP goes to refit
2) Tachek becomes the Texada Queen again, at Blubber Bay
3) Quada Queen II goes to Cortes
4) Bowen Queen goes to Port McNeill / Alert Bay / Sointula.
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Texada loses a bit in capacity, but gains in reliability
Port McNeill / A-Bay / Sointula get to relax and not spend hours in a lineup to guarantee a spot. A nice break for them.
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Post by mybidness459 on Apr 8, 2017 11:27:26 GMT -8
Minor shuffle season is starting: For April to mid-June, the following happens: 1) NIP goes to refit 2) Tachek becomes the Texada Queen again, at Blubber Bay 3) Quada Queen II goes to Cortes 4) Bowen Queen goes to Port McNeill / Alert Bay / Sointula. =========== Texada loses a bit in capacity, but gains in reliability Port McNeill / A-Bay / Sointula get to relax and not spend hours in a lineup to guarantee a spot. A nice break for them. So why not just send the Bowen to Texada? The Bowen has done the Texada run in the past. What a waste of fuel and crew expense to move these ships around.
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Post by Kahn_C on Apr 8, 2017 12:41:49 GMT -8
I'm sure this comes down to "crew familiarization" somehow. But it does seem rather silly.
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Post by articulated on Apr 8, 2017 12:44:19 GMT -8
Minor shuffle season is starting: For April to mid-June, the following happens: 1) NIP goes to refit 2) Tachek becomes the Texada Queen again, at Blubber Bay 3) Quada Queen II goes to Cortes 4) Bowen Queen goes to Port McNeill / Alert Bay / Sointula. =========== Texada loses a bit in capacity, but gains in reliability Port McNeill / A-Bay / Sointula get to relax and not spend hours in a lineup to guarantee a spot. A nice break for them. Two questions: 1) Looking at the service notice, Tachek will be on route 18 from April 10 to June 5, and Quadra Queen II will be on route 24 from April 10 to June 8. That's fine, gives enough time at the end for vessels to be moved back to their home route. However, Bowen Queen stays on route 25 until June 19th. Is there a reason for the 11 day gap when Quadra Queen II isn't being utilized? 2) Tachek and Quadra Queen II are similarly sized ships. I can see using Bowen Queen fitting best on route 25, but is there a reason Tachek has to be the vessel on the Texada route and Quadra Queen II can't be used?
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Post by bigcountry on Apr 8, 2017 21:12:42 GMT -8
Minor shuffle season is starting: For April to mid-June, the following happens: 1) NIP goes to refit 2) Tachek becomes the Texada Queen again, at Blubber Bay 3) Quada Queen II goes to Cortes 4) Bowen Queen goes to Port McNeill / Alert Bay / Sointula. =========== Texada loses a bit in capacity, but gains in reliability Port McNeill / A-Bay / Sointula get to relax and not spend hours in a lineup to guarantee a spot. A nice break for them. Two questions: 1) Looking at the service notice, Tachek will be on route 18 from April 10 to June 5, and Quadra Queen II will be on route 24 from April 10 to June 8. That's fine, gives enough time at the end for vessels to be moved back to their home route. However, Bowen Queen stays on route 25 until June 19th. Is there a reason for the 11 day gap when Quadra Queen II isn't being utilized? 2) Tachek and Quadra Queen II are similarly sized ships. I can see using Bowen Queen fitting best on route 25, but is there a reason Tachek has to be the vessel on the Texada route and Quadra Queen II can't be used? So since the Bowen Queen is already in Powell River would it not be more economical to just put the Bowen Queen in for the Northern Island Princess and leave the Tachek and Quadra Queen II alone?
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Post by Neil on Apr 8, 2017 21:48:20 GMT -8
Regarding the Cortes/Texada/Alert Bay&Sointula shuffle...
If you look at the traffic stats, there is more vehicle traffic out of Port MacNeill than out of Westview for Texada. I know, there are more daily sailings out of Port MacNeill, but the vessel is considerably smaller, so the capacity utilization is considerably higher at Port MacNeill. I believe the C.U. figure for Texada is among the lowest in the system, so it makes sense to put the Bowen Queen on the Port MacNeill run.
I don't know why they shift the Tachek, and not just use the Quadra Queen II for Texada. There must be some operational or crewing concern that isn't obvious to the layman.
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Post by Dane on May 22, 2017 16:04:50 GMT -8
There's a service notice for Swartz Bay to Tsawwassen for a two sailing wait. It was released about ninety minutes ago. At the time of my posting there's a three sail wait and the fourth sailing is 90% full. That's the busiest I recall in quite some time!
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Post by WettCoast on May 22, 2017 16:23:38 GMT -8
There's a service notice for Swartz Bay to Tsawwassen for a two sailing wait. It was released about ninety minutes ago. At the time of my posting there's a three sail wait and the fourth sailing is 90% full. That's the busiest I recall in quite some time! There is also one for Comox - Powell River: Burnaby to the rescue?
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 22, 2017 17:51:45 GMT -8
And the Orca is alive again...
I like that they described the problem.
And I like the open-ended commitment of what the Orca plans to do for the rest of the night.
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Post by Kahn_C on May 22, 2017 17:52:11 GMT -8
Problem is to take the Burnaby out they need to bring the crew over on the Orca. Unless they charter a plane I suppose. Coming up on the 7:15 sailing and the 3:15 is still 'holding'...
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Post by Kahn_C on May 22, 2017 18:31:39 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on May 22, 2017 21:49:49 GMT -8
A long, but I imagine, fairly lucrative shift for the afternoon crew on the Salish Orca, if they showed up as usual for work maybe somewhere around 2:30-2:45, as they won't be tying up for the night at Little River until one-ish. I wonder if it might be a quick turnaround at Powell River and deadheading back, since most of the traffic would probably have been eastbound at the end of the long weekend... or do Vancouver Islanders vacation in the Powell River area? Probably not. And... all that time sailing around the Salish Sea, doing 'dock tests' at places where she'll never see service- like Quathiaski Cove- and they didn't figure out a circuit breaker?
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Post by ferryfanyvr on May 23, 2017 10:06:15 GMT -8
There's a service notice for Swartz Bay to Tsawwassen for a two sailing wait. It was released about ninety minutes ago. At the time of my posting there's a three sail wait and the fourth sailing is 90% full. That's the busiest I recall in quite some time! There is also one for Comox - Powell River: Burnaby to the rescue? I was one of the passengers waiting for the Orca's 1515 sailing yesterday. I had spent Sunday night with friends in Nanaimo, then we drove up to Little River in the morning. The plan was do a round trip on the 1515 and then I would be dropped off at Departure Bay to catch the 2130 sailing home. At about 1450, the terminal announced there would be a "short delay" in loading and they would update us when any more information was available. The scheduled sailing time came and went and they apologized again for the delay but no further information was given. By this time, passengers were wanting to what was causing the delay but the terminal staff said they had no information as to what the problem was. It was very hot and thankfully the staff handed out free ice cold bottled water to anyone who wanted some. By the time 1630 came it was clear the ship wasn't sailing anytime soon, so we had our tickets refunded and headed back to Nanaimo.
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