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Post by speedbird on Jul 5, 2018 14:23:32 GMT -8
Riding from Sidney to Anacortes, we had to present our passport to a CBP officer both at Sidney, and on arrival in Anacortes. We also had to wait while disembarking passengers at Friday harbor presented their documents. This seems incredibly redundant to me. What is the point of precheck if they check your passports on arrival anyway?
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Post by Kahloke on Jul 6, 2018 6:25:05 GMT -8
Riding from Sidney to Anacortes, we had to present our passport to a CBP officer both at Sidney, and on arrival in Anacortes. We also had to wait while disembarking passengers at Friday harbor presented their documents. This seems incredibly redundant to me. What is the point of precheck if they check your passports on arrival anyway? You do immigration in Sidney, and then customs at your destination, either Friday Harbor or Anacortes. Yes, they have you present your documents in both places. I suppose it is a bit redundant, but it's the system the powers-that-be have chosen to go with. It's the same with Blackball, too. You have to get your car in line 90 minutes before the sailing in Victoria so immigration can do its business, and you still have to clear customs in Port Angeles.
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Post by speedbird on Jul 6, 2018 15:48:37 GMT -8
Riding from Sidney to Anacortes, we had to present our passport to a CBP officer both at Sidney, and on arrival in Anacortes. We also had to wait while disembarking passengers at Friday harbor presented their documents. This seems incredibly redundant to me. What is the point of precheck if they check your passports on arrival anyway? You do immigration in Sidney, and then customs at your destination, either Friday Harbor or Anacortes. Yes, they have you present your documents in both places. I suppose it is a bit redundant, but it's the system the powers-that-be have chosen to go with. It's the same with Blackball, too. You have to get your car in line 90 minutes before the sailing in Victoria so immigration can do its business, and you still have to clear customs in Port Angeles. Very odd. Don't you only need to go through customs if you have anything to declare?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 6, 2018 15:49:57 GMT -8
You do immigration in Sidney, and then customs at your destination, either Friday Harbor or Anacortes. Yes, they have you present your documents in both places. I suppose it is a bit redundant, but it's the system the powers-that-be have chosen to go with. It's the same with Blackball, too. You have to get your car in line 90 minutes before the sailing in Victoria so immigration can do its business, and you still have to clear customs in Port Angeles. Very odd. Don't you only need to go through customs if you have anything to declare? International borders are kinda a big deal.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Jan 4, 2024 19:25:20 GMT -8
You do immigration in Sidney, and then customs at your destination, either Friday Harbor or Anacortes. Yes, they have you present your documents in both places. I suppose it is a bit redundant, but it's the system the powers-that-be have chosen to go with. It's the same with Blackball, too. You have to get your car in line 90 minutes before the sailing in Victoria so immigration can do its business, and you still have to clear customs in Port Angeles. Very odd. Don't you only need to go through customs if you have anything to declare? The point of the "pre-check" for immigration purposes helps the operator just as much - it allows people who are deemed ineligible to enter the US be removed from vessel loading BEFORE reaching their destination so they do not need to be reaccommodated at another time. Amtrak undertakes the same process at Vancouver Pacific Central, followed by a "customs" check at the actual border. This is different than US Customs Pre-Clearance, which if implemented at either of these locations, would eliminate the stop for customs in Anacortes/Friday Harbor, and the US/Canada Border on Amtrak, respectively.
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Post by Kahloke on Jan 4, 2024 19:37:52 GMT -8
Amtrak undertakes the same process at Vancouver Pacific Central, followed by a "customs" check at the actual border. This is different than US Customs Pre-Clearance, which if implemented at either of these locations, would eliminate the stop for customs in Anacortes/Friday Harbor, and the US/Canada Border on Amtrak, respectively. That would mirror what US Customs does at Canadian airports for transborder flights. You clear customs at the departure airport, then when you land in the US, they can park at any gate, just like a domestic flight. I think that's also the case in Dublin, Ireland. US Customs set up shop there, too.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Jan 4, 2024 20:02:33 GMT -8
Amtrak undertakes the same process at Vancouver Pacific Central, followed by a "customs" check at the actual border. This is different than US Customs Pre-Clearance, which if implemented at either of these locations, would eliminate the stop for customs in Anacortes/Friday Harbor, and the US/Canada Border on Amtrak, respectively. That would mirror what US Customs does at Canadian airports for transborder flights. You clear customs at the departure airport, then when you land in the US, they can park at any gate, just like a domestic flight. I think that's also the case in Dublin, Ireland. US Customs set up shop there, too. Correct! There's a lot of surprising airports that have this capabilities, like Aruba, Nassau and Abu Dhabi. I know before COVID, both WSF and Amtrak were pursuing the full addition of these facilities in Sidney and Vancouver, respectively. With Amtrak adding more capacity trains, I know this stop would eliminate delays. Not sure where effort on that work stands now though.
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Post by northwesterner on Jan 7, 2024 22:57:35 GMT -8
Amtrak undertakes the same process at Vancouver Pacific Central, followed by a "customs" check at the actual border. This is different than US Customs Pre-Clearance, which if implemented at either of these locations, would eliminate the stop for customs in Anacortes/Friday Harbor, and the US/Canada Border on Amtrak, respectively. That would mirror what US Customs does at Canadian airports for transborder flights. You clear customs at the departure airport, then when you land in the US, they can park at any gate, just like a domestic flight. I think that's also the case in Dublin, Ireland. US Customs set up shop there, too. Can confirm it's the case in Dublin - did it last year.
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