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Post by Scott on Apr 22, 2007 17:41:58 GMT -8
I agree with you Kyle... sorry, my comments were mostly not directed towards your question but the whole issue. If the same thing had been done in BC, then no, it probably wouldn't be an issue at all. And even though Germany has gone to extreme lengths in repudiating Nazism and the image of the Swastika... they're still going to be held to a higher standard than anyone else. It's probably not fair, but they have to live with their history.
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Post by Dane on Apr 22, 2007 20:21:20 GMT -8
Ha. Funny.
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Post by bcfbccsscollector on May 2, 2007 21:36:26 GMT -8
Here is a classic example of a four blade prop, taken from the Queen of Cowichan in Esquimalt drydock. Not the modern "Swastika", but lets get real, it's a damn propeller symbol! point being, it has four blades, not three as told in the media......
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Post by bcfbccsscollector on May 2, 2007 21:41:29 GMT -8
Of note also,
Props have changed over the years, and now take a more "Sharp and curved" profile. This is seen in most of the V class and S class ships, probably most others in the fleet also. Thus, the "Update" in the symbol. But, I still say it was a slow news day.......
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Post by Hardy on May 3, 2007 5:33:57 GMT -8
Here is a classic example of a four blade prop, taken from the Queen of Cowichan in Esquimalt drydock. Not the modern "Swastika", but lets get real, it's a d*** propeller symbol! point being, it has four blades, not three as told in the media...... My gawd! The fascists had even infiltrated the BC Shipbuilding industry (or at least the ship painting industry!) way back in "Expo Colour" time! Oh the humanity! Oh the symbolism! <GASP> What is the world coming to when we allow symbols like these to grace our proud ships! "BAN THE MATING SLUGS". <humour><sarcasm><quasi-politico-soapbox> While I am at it, I thought that Canada was a soverign country. I am "deeply" offended by the fact that we have a portrait of the Monarch on our currency. I think that we should immediately remove Queen Elizabeth from all our currency and focus on homegrown Canadian Icons on there instead. In this vein, please send me all your old Monarchy money and I will fund my "tilt at the windmill". Please note that $20's are the bill that most offends me, so I want to deal with getting the Queen off that one first....... </humour></sarcasm></quasi-politico-soapbox>
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Post by Retrovision on May 3, 2007 9:17:08 GMT -8
While I am at it, I thought that Canada was a soverign country. And yet our Governor General, the Queen's representative, is still the technical leader of our nation I am "deeply" offended by the fact that we have a portrait of the Monarch on our currency. While we've got the sarcasm theme running this gag, I'll point out how offended I am by Trudeau repatriating Canada's constitution in 1982 and how thankful I am that Quebec keeps the rest of us from ascending to true sovereignty.
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Post by Retrovision on May 4, 2007 6:53:37 GMT -8
I would say Germans are probably the most sensitive when it comes to this symbol This is half the reason that I was giving in conversation with my dad the day that this story was blown so out of proportion on a slow news day, as happens so often given similar circumstances in our local media, for why it caught my attention at all to begin with. I couldn't believe that any german shipyard would ever allow anything even close to such negative symbolism on such a global scale to mar any of their vessels when they're dealing with a necessary warning sign that could so easily be interpreted in this way if they aren't careful, let alone a shipyard with FSG's connection to Hitler's war efforts. - Although only symbols for covered bow-props -- I've gotten the impression as a relative layman that there aren't designated shapes for different prop-type symbols, making this an issue in the first place -- why did a couple vessels recently launched by FSG slide down the ways with such different prop symbols than any of us have seen before? www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=57496766&size=l
www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=212589267&size=o
...Especially when the shape of the symbols on our ferry is meant to represent props seeminly not different enough to need such unprecedented almost-90 degree angles
But please don't get me wrong, I'm just getting into an old entrenched habbit of mine of playing devil's advocate to an occasional extreme degree.
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Post by Doug on May 4, 2007 20:19:50 GMT -8
Those symbols represent a bow thruster with a steel cage over it, not a propeller protruding from the end of the ship. What human being in their right mind would know that strange cross in a circle represents a propeller, if he didn't have marine training?
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Post by Retrovision on May 4, 2007 23:11:21 GMT -8
Thanks for the clarification for us laymen, Doug. I'm beginning to think that I should have kept the "(meant rhetorically)" comment that I got rid of
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