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Post by avgeekjoe on Sept 26, 2020 17:06:06 GMT -8
I've meant to share this state transportation budget news with you. It's quite concerning for the future of WSF. Apparently the Washington State Ferries Operating budget is down -$101.27 million or -20.7% percent. At least. Figured you should know. Get ahold of your state legislators and let them know you care. Please. It's up to us voters now to do more than just vote. Speak up. Demand a plan to save Washington State Ferries. Let's get WSF Assistant Secretary Amy Scarton her ball back in January with a fighting chance to win saving Washington State Ferries. Please.
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Post by Kahloke on Oct 15, 2020 8:57:07 GMT -8
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Post by avgeekjoe on Oct 19, 2020 22:10:37 GMT -8
Some ferry funding will come back. Won't have details for a month or two what the depth of the budget hole truly is, but this is a big bullet dodged.
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Post by Kahloke on Oct 20, 2020 19:15:01 GMT -8
WSF has an updated website now. It doesn't appear to be as comprehensive a makeover as BC Ferries site, but still a new look. wsdot.wa.gov/ferries
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Post by Neil on Oct 20, 2020 20:15:39 GMT -8
WSF has an updated website now. It doesn't appear to be as comprehensive a makeover as BC Ferries site, but still a new look. wsdot.wa.gov/ferriesAt first glance, one thing I like is the link to other Washington state ferries. And a point of real curiosity; have we ever had a mention or photo of what's referred to as the Gifford- Inchelium ferry? That's new to me...
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Post by avgeekjoe on Oct 27, 2020 11:04:16 GMT -8
FYI State Senator Liz Lovelett has an event this Friday on the future of ferries. Facebook event link
Figured you should know.
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Post by PNW_ferrynerd on Dec 14, 2020 16:01:03 GMT -8
Hello, would anybody happen to know the Fog watch radio frequency for WSF(channel 3), channel 1 is the main...151.04000, I have searched everywhere, but can't find it. If someone could maybe tell me, that would be fantastic!
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Post by cbachmeier on Dec 22, 2020 0:55:03 GMT -8
I do not know if this is just me but I notice that WSF captains always manage to time when they shut the engines off for docking, I am only primarily interested in BC Ferries but I thought how could they be so precise, has anyone else noticed this?
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Post by FNS on Dec 23, 2020 3:36:45 GMT -8
I do not know if this is just me but I notice that WSF captains always manage to time when they shut the engines off for docking, I am only primarily interested in BC Ferries but I thought how could they be so precise, has anyone else noticed this? The engines are not totally shut off for landings. They need them!
The only exception were the OLYMPIC and the pre-renovated RHODODENDRON. They had Fairbanks engines. These were stopped, cocked the other direction, and air started by telegraph orders from the wheelhouse in use.
There may be others that require engine shut downs for switching to the other direction.
The generators are always on aboard Diesel-Electric ferries. They feed electricity to the control panel for sending correct direction of currents to the electric drive propeller shaft motors.
The VASHON's Estep engine never stopped while in service. A huge wheel crank moved flywheel clutches. One clutch would disengage from one end of the engine and the other would engage at the other end. A WRONG WAY ALARM, with wiring attached to the telegraph and crank assembly, was installed to alert the crew not to engage the wrong clutch! This alarm's bell always sounded upon departure as the telegraph would normally be set directly from SLOW one direction to SLOW the other direction, bypassing STOP. A throttle adjusted the speed of the engine. Both wheelhouse telegraphs were fed to one telegraph in the engine room aboard the VASHON.
On arrival: SLOW AHEAD, STOP, SLOW ASTERN, HALF ASTERN, FULL ASTERN, STOP, SLOW AHEAD, maybe more ASTERN orders, soft bump on the wingwalls, SLOW AHEAD to keep ferry firmly in the slip until departure time comes to sail towards the other direction.
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Post by cbachmeier on Dec 23, 2020 17:28:03 GMT -8
I do not know if this is just me but I notice that WSF captains always manage to time when they shut the engines off for docking, I am only primarily interested in BC Ferries but I thought how could they be so precise, has anyone else noticed this? The engines are not totally shut off for landings. They need them!
The only exception were the OLYMPIC and the pre-renovated RHODODENDRON. They had Fairbanks engines. These were stopped, cocked the other direction, and air started by telegraph orders from the wheelhouse in use.
There may be others that require engine shut downs for switching to the other direction.
The generators are always on aboard Diesel-Electric ferries. They feed electricity to the control panel for sending correct direction of currents to the electric drive propeller shaft motors.
The VASHON's Estep engine never stopped while in service. A huge wheel crank moved flywheel clutches. One clutch would disengage from one end of the engine and the other would engage at the other end. A WRONG WAY ALARM, with wiring attached to the telegraph and crank assembly, was installed to alert the crew not to engage the wrong clutch! This alarm's bell always sounded upon departure as the telegraph would normally be set directly from SLOW one direction to SLOW the other direction, bypassing STOP. A throttle adjusted the speed of the engine. Both wheelhouse telegraphs were fed to one telegraph in the engine room aboard the VASHON.
On arrival: SLOW AHEAD, STOP, SLOW ASTERN, HALF ASTERN, FULL ASTERN, STOP, SLOW AHEAD, maybe more ASTERN orders, soft bump on the wingwalls, SLOW AHEAD to keep ferry firmly in the slip until departure time comes to sail towards the other direction.
Oh okay I see, that last time I was onboard Washington State Ferries was a year ago so.
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Post by avgeekjoe on Dec 28, 2020 15:15:17 GMT -8
I forgot to post this earlier but a very senior source inside WSF who reports directly to Assistant Secretary Amy Scarton confirms to me that Governor Inslee's budget makes WSF whole & prevents any runs from being eliminated. Any.
That does not mean we are out of this yet.
What that means is the Governor's proposed budget protects Washington State Ferries.
We still have the state legislature to worry about. Four, five maybe six plus long months ahead.
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Post by avgeekjoe on Jan 2, 2021 21:27:17 GMT -8
Sorry to be the bearer of this news to this group, but Assistant Secretary Amy Scarton has moved on from WSF. From the WSDOT press release of 30 December: Actually, I knew of this a few days ago. Considering I was a friendly acquaintance with Mrs. Scarton, I didn't want to be the first poster. But oh well... With that, as I e-mailed Mrs. Scarton, "Just heard the news you're leaving WSF. At least you got WSF thru what could have been much worse times. Safe to say one reason WSF is rebounding is you at the helm ma'am, and I sincerely thank you." I'll stop there. Over to you...
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Post by Kahloke on Jan 3, 2021 8:07:46 GMT -8
A little bit of housekeeping on the Washington State Ferries Board. I just re-organized and combined a bunch of threads in the Washington State Terminal and Routes board. Individual terminal threads got combined into the overarching route thread. For example, I eliminated the Clinton and Mukilteo threads and moved the content into the Mukilteo-Clinton route thread. I did this for all of the routes. It just makes it simpler for figuring out where to post route specific content.
FYI, if you are looking for Lofall-South Point, I moved that into the historic Washington Ferries board, as this is not a current route.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Feb 13, 2021 17:55:22 GMT -8
Essentially service on all routes with some modified schedules even with MV Samish not operating on Anacortes to San Juan Island, MV Kittittas not operating on Fauntleroy to Vashon Island and Southworth.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Feb 20, 2021 12:45:59 GMT -8
Stupid question; why doesn’t Washington State Ferries put a more modern vessel on the logo? I am asking because the vessel design has been seen the last steel electric vessel was rebuilt into the modern design.
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Post by Neil on Feb 20, 2021 15:24:17 GMT -8
Stupid question; why doesn’t Washington State Ferries put a more modern vessel of logo? I am asking because the vessel design has been seen the last steel electric vessel was rebuilt into the modern design. I don't understand your question- what does 'vessel of logo' mean? Are you asking about the design of WSF vessels, or their branding?
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Post by FNS on Feb 21, 2021 0:20:58 GMT -8
Stupid question; why doesn’t Washington State Ferries put a more modern vessel of logo? I am asking because the vessel design has been seen the last steel electric vessel was rebuilt into the modern design. I don't understand your question- what does 'vessel of logo' mean? Are you asking about the design of WSF vessels, or their branding? This is the logo "BBF" is referring to.
Yes, this logo might be outdated as these ferries are gone. But, I think these are recognized as being the true workhorses here, and previously on San Francisco Bay, before the bigger modern ferries were built.
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Post by Neil on Feb 21, 2021 10:53:44 GMT -8
I don't understand your question- what does 'vessel of logo' mean? Are you asking about the design of WSF vessels, or their branding? This is the logo "BBF" is referring to.
Yes, this logo might be outdated as these ferries are gone. But, I think these are recognized as being the true workhorses here, and previously on San Francisco Bay, before the bigger modern ferries were built.
I think you're right... I think that's what he meant.
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Post by Kahloke on Feb 21, 2021 11:18:07 GMT -8
The logo you see most often with WSF is the DOT “Flying T” logo. It’s on their website, it’s on the vessel funnels, and in lots of other places. Yes, the logo with the Steel E still appears in some locations, but by and far, the DOT logo is the most prominent one used today.
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Post by elwharust on Mar 12, 2021 12:39:29 GMT -8
does anyone know what issaqush 100 class vessels where in the san juans in july 1991? i found an old picture from when my dad went to the wsycc on orcas and it has an issaquah 100 and a super in it.
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Post by Kahloke on Mar 12, 2021 13:28:33 GMT -8
does anyone know what issaqush 100 class vessels where in the san juans in july 1991? i found an old picture from when my dad went to the wsycc on orcas and it has an issaquah 100 and a super in it. Kittitas was there, for sure, as my photo from July of 1991 illustrates. And, she had her upper deck by then, so she would have been classified as an "Issaquah-130" at that point in her career, a vehicle capacity number that would be later amended to 124. I would expect she served alongside the San Juan regulars at that time: Elwha, Kaleetan, Evergreen, and Nisqually? I'm sure our resident experts, Barnacle, and/or EGFleet, have a better record of which vessels were in the San Juans vs. my feeble memory. Kittitas at Anacortes, July 1991
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Post by northwesterner on Mar 12, 2021 19:43:18 GMT -8
does anyone know what issaqush 100 class vessels where in the san juans in july 1991? i found an old picture from when my dad went to the wsycc on orcas and it has an issaquah 100 and a super in it. Kittitas was there, for sure, as my photo from July of 1991 illustrates. And, she had her upper deck by then, so she would have been classified as an "Issaquah-130" at that point in her career, a vehicle capacity number that would be later amended to 124. I would expect she served alongside the San Juan regulars at that time: Elwha, Kaleetan, Evergreen, and Nisqually? I'm sure our resident experts, Barnacle, and/or EGFleet, have a better record of which vessels were in the San Juans vs. my feeble memory. Kittitas at Anacortes, July 1991 Kittitas was for sure there for a couple of summers in the early 1990s. Elwha was in and out ... for her extensive 1990 rebuilding. Kaleetan covered Sidney in the summers when Elwha wasn't available ( photos here). Tillikum was also present before her 1994 rebuild and post-rebuild assignment to FVS. Nisqually was the inter-island vessel.
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Post by elwharust on Mar 14, 2021 12:13:41 GMT -8
Kittitas was there, for sure, as my photo from July of 1991 illustrates. And, she had her upper deck by then, so she would have been classified as an "Issaquah-130" at that point in her career, a vehicle capacity number that would be later amended to 124. I would expect she served alongside the San Juan regulars at that time: Elwha, Kaleetan, Evergreen, and Nisqually? I'm sure our resident experts, Barnacle, and/or EGFleet, have a better record of which vessels were in the San Juans vs. my feeble memory. Kittitas at Anacortes, July 1991 Kittitas was for sure there for a couple of summers in the early 1990s. Elwha was in and out ... for her extensive 1990 rebuilding. Kaleetan covered Sidney in the summers when Elwha wasn't available ( photos here). Tillikum was also present before her 1994 rebuild and post-rebuild assignment to FVS. Nisqually was the inter-island vessel. thank you for the help but after looking at the picture a bit more its seems i have misidentified the location. i just assumed it was in the san juans because it was in a folder that said camp 91 on it . i now believe it is in seattle looking towards Bremerton on the Alaska way viaduct. so i'm guessing the super is the hyak because the yakima was up at Kingston for most of the 90s right. but that still leaves that mystery issaquah also i just moved up a rank
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Post by Kahloke on Mar 14, 2021 13:12:07 GMT -8
thank you for the help but after looking at the picture a bit more its seems i have misidentified the location. i just assumed it was in the san juans because it was in a folder that said camp 91 on it . i now believe it is in seattle looking towards Bremerton on the Alaska way viaduct. so i'm guessing the super is the hyak because the yakima was up at Kingston for most of the 90s right. but that still leaves that mystery issaquah Hyak is probably a logical guess for the Super. The Issaquah-100 vessel could be Kitsap or Sealth. Kitsap didn't receive her gallery decks until 1992, so if your photo was 1991, it would have been just prior to that refit. Hyak and Yakima were paired together at Kingston in the mid 90's, like 1995 or so, because I remember taking that route a couple of times and both of those boats were there. I think Chelan was a regular at Kingston in the early 90's, before traffic increases necessitated deploying a 2nd Super. Chelan moved around a lot, though; I remember seeing her in the islands in the summers, like around 1996-97, and that was before she got her gallery decks, certainly well before she became the Sidney boat.
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Post by northwesterner on Mar 15, 2021 23:04:37 GMT -8
thank you for the help but after looking at the picture a bit more its seems i have misidentified the location. i just assumed it was in the san juans because it was in a folder that said camp 91 on it . i now believe it is in seattle looking towards Bremerton on the Alaska way viaduct. so i'm guessing the super is the hyak because the yakima was up at Kingston for most of the 90s right. but that still leaves that mystery issaquah Hyak is probably a logical guess for the Super. The Issaquah-100 vessel could be Kitsap or Sealth. Kitsap didn't receive her gallery decks until 1992, so if your photo was 1991, it would have been just prior to that refit. Hyak and Yakima were paired together at Kingston in the mid 90's, like 1995 or so, because I remember taking that route a couple of times and both of those boats were there. I think Chelan was a regular at Kingston in the early 90's, before traffic increases necessitated deploying a 2nd Super. Chelan moved around a lot, though; I remember seeing her in the islands in the summers, like around 1996-97, and that was before she got her gallery decks, certainly well before she became the Sidney boat. I know that EGfleet has often noted the Issaquah Class assignments at Edmonds - Kingston in the 80s and early 90s but I sure don't remember that (okay, I was too young for the 80s). I can remember the Hyak and Yakima running as a matched set on Edmonds-Kingston all the way back to the early 90s. I don't recall either of those vessels anywhere else (Bremerton was all Issaquah class all the time). Elwha and Kaleetan were in the islands in the summer, with Kaleetan providing maintenance relief in the winter at Seattle-Winslow and Edmonds-Kingston. I wasn't up in the islands much in the winter but the old WSF passenger newspaper used to publish a winter assignments and refit schedule. I think the basic assignments was some combination of Evergreen State, Elwha, Nisqually, Chelan/Tillikum with Kaleetan and Illahee around for relief assignments.
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