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Post by Barnacle on Mar 16, 2021 5:17:19 GMT -8
Kittitas was for sure there for a couple of summers in the early 1990s. Elwha was in and out ... for her extensive 1990 rebuilding. Kaleetan covered Sidney in the summers when Elwha wasn't available ( photos here). Tillikum was also present before her 1994 rebuild and post-rebuild assignment to FVS. Nisqually was the inter-island vessel. thank you for the help but after looking at the picture a bit more its seems i have misidentified the location. i just assumed it was in the san juans because it was in a folder that said camp 91 on it . i now believe it is in seattle looking towards Bremerton on the Alaska way viaduct. so i'm guessing the super is the hyak because the yakima was up at Kingston for most of the 90s right. but that still leaves that mystery issaquah also i just moved up a rank Your first assumption was correct; that is slip 1 in Anacortes. It's been rebuilt since then so it looks a little different but that's Guemes Island's southwest corner peeping out from behind the stern.
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Post by Kahloke on Mar 16, 2021 5:27:20 GMT -8
thank you for the help but after looking at the picture a bit more its seems i have misidentified the location. i just assumed it was in the san juans because it was in a folder that said camp 91 on it . i now believe it is in seattle looking towards Bremerton on the Alaska way viaduct. so i'm guessing the super is the hyak because the yakima was up at Kingston for most of the 90s right. but that still leaves that mystery issaquah also i just moved up a rank Your first assumption was correct; that is slip 1 in Anacortes. It's been rebuilt since then so it looks a little different but that's Guemes Island's southwest corner peeping out from behind the stern. elwharust didn't actually post his photo. The one you are referring to is the photo I posted showing Kittitas in Slip 1 at Anacortes in July of 1991, visually demonstrating to elwharust which Issaquah-class vessel was in the islands that year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 7:44:16 GMT -8
I do remember the Chelan being on the Edmonds - Kingston route in the 90's. I even remember riding her one night when from Kingston to Seattle when the Edmonds terminal was closed. I can't for the life of me remember who her running mate was at that time, perhaps the Hyak? I think we are all forgetting that the mighty "Hiyu' was the Inter-Island vessel in the 90's and the Nisqually made many a trip to Anacortes in those days.
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Post by Kahloke on Mar 16, 2021 7:53:36 GMT -8
I do remember the Chelan being on the Edmonds - Kingston route in the 90's. I even remember riding her one night when from Kingston to Seattle when the Edmonds terminal was closed. I can't for the life of me remember who her running mate was at that time, perhaps the Hyak? I think we are all forgetting that the mighty "Hiyu' was the Inter-Island vessel in the 90's and the Nisqually made many a trip to Anacortes in those days. Hiyu ran inter-island in the fall, winter, and spring, and yes, in the early 90's, I do remember Nisqually running as one of the mainline boats to and from Anacortes. Nisqually also did inter-island in the summers for most of the 90's, until Illahee replaced her in the late 90's. By then, I think Hiyu was not doing inter island anymore - too small, even in the off season.
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Post by northwesterner on Mar 16, 2021 11:07:32 GMT -8
I do remember the Chelan being on the Edmonds - Kingston route in the 90's. I even remember riding her one night when from Kingston to Seattle when the Edmonds terminal was closed. I can't for the life of me remember who her running mate was at that time, perhaps the Hyak? I think we are all forgetting that the mighty "Hiyu' was the Inter-Island vessel in the 90's and the Nisqually made many a trip to Anacortes in those days. Hiyu ran inter-island in the fall, winter, and spring, and yes, in the early 90's, I do remember Nisqually running as one of the mainline boats to and from Anacortes. Nisqually also did inter-island in the summers for most of the 90's, until Illahee replaced her in the late 90's. By then, I think Hiyu was not doing inter island anymore - too small, even in the off season. Ahhh yes yes. I'd forgotten about the Hiyu. So off season four boat service was Evergreen State, Elwha, Nisqually, and Hiyu as the normal set of vessels. Eventually the Hiyu disappeared save for some occasional relief periods and an Issaquah class joined. Still don't remember Chelan on Edmonds-Kingston, at all, in the 1990s.
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Post by sounder on Mar 16, 2021 15:28:41 GMT -8
I do remember the Chelan being on the Edmonds - Kingston route in the 90's. I even remember riding her one night when from Kingston to Seattle when the Edmonds terminal was closed. I can't for the life of me remember who her running mate was at that time, perhaps the Hyak? I think we are all forgetting that the mighty "Hiyu' was the Inter-Island vessel in the 90's and the Nisqually made many a trip to Anacortes in those days. Hiyu ran inter-island in the fall, winter, and spring, and yes, in the early 90's, I do remember Nisqually running as one of the mainline boats to and from Anacortes. Nisqually also did inter-island in the summers for most of the 90's, until Illahee replaced her in the late 90's. By then, I think Hiyu was not doing inter island anymore - too small, even in the off season. I remember riding the Hiyu and even the Olympic on the San Juan Inter-Island run. I know the Issaquah class boats are probably the most versatile in the system as they have pretty much served on every run except for at Pt. Townsend and the Sealth is the only boat in this class so far to have filled in at Pt. Defiance. I have also ridden the Sealth from Kingston to Colman Dock when Edmonds was being rebuilt. I rode the Kittitas on the old Lofall-South Point run for the brief time it was assigned there. Does anyone know if the Issaquah has ever been assigned to either Mukilteo or the San Juan’s in her career? I have really just known that boat to be a Bremerton ferry in the 80’s and a Vashon boat after the second car deck was added.
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Post by R30A on Mar 17, 2021 6:30:39 GMT -8
The Issaquah ran on the Mukilteo-Clinton run for about 2 weeks in early 2016, after spending over a month on the Bremerton run. I have a fuzzy recollection of the Issaquah in the San Juans, but don't remember exactly when.
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 17, 2021 7:51:46 GMT -8
Your first assumption was correct; that is slip 1 in Anacortes. It's been rebuilt since then so it looks a little different but that's Guemes Island's southwest corner peeping out from behind the stern. elwharust didn't actually post his photo. The one you are referring to is the photo I posted showing Kittitas in Slip 1 at Anacortes in July of 1991, visually demonstrating to elwharust which Issaquah-class vessel was in the islands that year. Ah. My mistake. Though debating visual elements without the visuals certainly adds a WCFF-unique twist to the conversation.
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Post by Barnacle on Mar 17, 2021 7:55:53 GMT -8
I do remember the Chelan being on the Edmonds - Kingston route in the 90's. I even remember riding her one night when from Kingston to Seattle when the Edmonds terminal was closed. I can't for the life of me remember who her running mate was at that time, perhaps the Hyak? I think we are all forgetting that the mighty "Hiyu' was the Inter-Island vessel in the 90's and the Nisqually made many a trip to Anacortes in those days. If I recall correctly the Hyak and Yakima were paired up at EDK from 1990 to 1998, though the Chelan was certainly a likely candidate for relief service. The Nisqually went full-time interisland in 1998 and was replaced by the Illahee sometime around 2001-2002... I'd have to check my work records for a hint.
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Post by withtheferries on Apr 19, 2021 10:02:25 GMT -8
Does anyone know the freeboard for each class of ferry? Thanks. (im talking about each class of WSF)
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Post by avgeekjoe on May 17, 2021 17:25:16 GMT -8
Well there's another proposal to hike WSF fares again. Sigh. The presentation for the WSF proposal to the WSTC tomorrow at 3 PM is now online. This is about extracting $9.2 million in additional revenue. ========== As most of you know, I'm very pro WSF. But I don't support this proposal. We need a low income fare to help our seniors and we really don't need a study that was supposed to be funded by the legislature. There already is a means to handle qualification for a low income fare: ORCA Lift used by Sound Transit, King County Metro and the rest of the ORCA Pod in central Puget Sound. Asking nicely hasn't worked, and asking low income folks to suffer disproportionately indefinitely while consultants make money studying their pain is just not equity. If that means WSF has to lose out on $9.2 million in operating revenue and some runs get pared back, that's ok. After all we're just coming out of Covid19 restrictions and this is really not the time to be hiking fares on folks. I also e-mailed two pages of comments around today... so over to you.
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Post by northwesterner on May 18, 2021 19:25:49 GMT -8
Well there's another proposal to hike WSF fares again. Sigh. The presentation for the WSF proposal to the WSTC tomorrow at 3 PM is now online. This is about extracting $9.2 million in additional revenue. ========== As most of you know, I'm very pro WSF. But I don't support this proposal. We need a low income fare to help our seniors and we really don't need a study that was supposed to be funded by the legislature. There already is a means to handle qualification for a low income fare: ORCA Lift used by Sound Transit, King County Metro and the rest of the ORCA Pod in central Puget Sound. Asking nicely hasn't worked, and asking low income folks to suffer disproportionately indefinitely while consultants make money studying their pain is just not equity. If that means WSF has to lose out on $9.2 million in operating revenue and some runs get pared back, that's ok. After all we're just coming out of Covid19 restrictions and this is really not the time to be hiking fares on folks. I also e-mailed two pages of comments around today... so over to you. Washington State revenues grew year over year in 2020. There shouldn’t be a shortfall. This is all about legislative priorities and WSF has not been a priority for a few years.
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Post by avgeekjoe on May 18, 2021 22:45:26 GMT -8
Well there's another proposal to hike WSF fares again. Sigh. The presentation for the WSF proposal to the WSTC tomorrow at 3 PM is now online. This is about extracting $9.2 million in additional revenue. ========== As most of you know, I'm very pro WSF. But I don't support this proposal. We need a low income fare to help our seniors and we really don't need a study that was supposed to be funded by the legislature. There already is a means to handle qualification for a low income fare: ORCA Lift used by Sound Transit, King County Metro and the rest of the ORCA Pod in central Puget Sound. Asking nicely hasn't worked, and asking low income folks to suffer disproportionately indefinitely while consultants make money studying their pain is just not equity. If that means WSF has to lose out on $9.2 million in operating revenue and some runs get pared back, that's ok. After all we're just coming out of Covid19 restrictions and this is really not the time to be hiking fares on folks. I also e-mailed two pages of comments around today... so over to you. Washington State revenues grew year over year in 2020. There shouldn’t be a shortfall. This is all about legislative priorities and WSF has not been a priority for a few years. Oh it shows. Right now the Bremerton run has a ferry that's just too slow for the route running it because of a lack of spare boats!
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Post by withtheferries on May 19, 2021 22:05:09 GMT -8
Washington State revenues grew year over year in 2020. There shouldn’t be a shortfall. This is all about legislative priorities and WSF has not been a priority for a few years. Oh it shows. Right now the Bremerton run has a ferry that's just too slow for the route running it because of a lack of spare boats! Surprisingly, i saw it on vesselwatch going 16kts today! (the Salish)
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Post by avgeekjoe on May 22, 2021 22:57:42 GMT -8
Online AMA meetings with WSF senior staff coming up:
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Post by Kahloke on Jun 1, 2021 7:02:27 GMT -8
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Post by avgeekjoe on Sept 27, 2021 23:43:46 GMT -8
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Post by avgeekjoe on Sept 29, 2021 12:16:26 GMT -8
Might be a good name. But I think it shouldn't be used. The predecessor passenger only ferry SKAGIT sank with a lot of people off the coast of Tanzania. I don't really want to see another ferry named SKAGIT. It hurts me to see and hear that word because of what happened wrongfully to the people who rode the vessel of that name on that fateful day. Disqualify SKAGIT an KALAMA from the naming of future WSF vessels. a) What happened in Tanzania is not our responsibility in Washington. Respectfully. Now if the tragedy happened in our waters... b) Kalama isn't to blame for the tragedy. c) I suspect neither you nor I approve of the wake wash the MVs Skagit, Kalama, Tyee, Chinook or Snohomish threw upon Rich Passage. Retire all those names? Nah. d) G*d Bless Skagit County.
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Post by Barnacle on Sept 29, 2021 14:38:15 GMT -8
Might be a good name. But I think it shouldn't be used. The predecessor passenger only ferry SKAGIT sank with a lot of people off the coast of Tanzania. I don't really want to see another ferry named SKAGIT. It hurts me to see and hear that word because of what happened wrongfully to the people who rode the vessel of that name on that fateful day. Disqualify SKAGIT an KALAMA from the naming of future WSF vessels. a) What happened in Tanzania is not our responsibility in Washington. Respectfully. Now if the tragedy happened in our waters... b) Kalama isn't to blame for the tragedy. c) I suspect neither you nor I approve of the wake wash the MVs Skagit, Kalama, Tyee, Chinook or Snohomish threw upon Rich Passage. Retire all those names? Nah. d) G*d Bless Skagit County. Sailors are a superstitious lot... it'd be bad luck.
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Post by EGfleet on Oct 2, 2021 15:02:01 GMT -8
Might be a good name. But I think it shouldn't be used. The predecessor passenger only ferry SKAGIT sank with a lot of people off the coast of Tanzania. I don't really want to see another ferry named SKAGIT. It hurts me to see and hear that word because of what happened wrongfully to the people who rode the vessel of that name on that fateful day. Disqualify SKAGIT an KALAMA from the naming of future WSF vessels. a) What happened in Tanzania is not our responsibility in Washington. Respectfully. Now if the tragedy happened in our waters... b) Kalama isn't to blame for the tragedy. c) I suspect neither you nor I approve of the wake wash the MVs Skagit, Kalama, Tyee, Chinook or Snohomish threw upon Rich Passage. Retire all those names? Nah. d) G*d Bless Skagit County. I think it's a moot point anyway. I seem to recall that in the wake of Salish/Samish/Suquamish the state said no more "S" names anyway.
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Post by Kahloke on Nov 8, 2021 12:46:55 GMT -8
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Mar 9, 2022 18:10:47 GMT -8
Following the release of the Spring 2022 schedule (the first one in 3 years), unsurprisingly, there are no major changes from the Fall 2021 schedule we saw back in November. Instead of sailing to Sidney, the #1 vessel will again have the following added domestic sailings:
- 0830 Anacortes to Friday Harbor only - 0955/1040 Friday Harbor/Lopez to Anacortes** - 1155/1245 Anacortes/Lopez to Friday Harbor** - 1355 Friday Harbor to Anacortes only We will likely see the #2 1355 to Orcas from Anacortes expanded to Thursdays and Saturdays in May similar to the Fall service in September. No other changes to note though.
Correction: WSDOT has added the 1355 from Anacortes to Orcas on Thursdays/Saturdays from May 12 through June 18, the last published day of the schedule.
** no interisland vehicles on the 0955 or 1245 sailings
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Post by SS San Mateo on Mar 11, 2022 18:04:59 GMT -8
WSF put out a COVID-19 Service Restoration Plan ( link to PDF here) earlier this week. Routes are being restored in the following order: • Anacortes/San Juan Islands • Seattle/Bainbridge Island • Mukilteo/Clinton • Edmonds/Kingston • Fauntleroy/Vashon Island/Southworth • Seattle/Bremerton • Port Townsend/Coupeville • Anacortes/Sidney BC Also, the Tillikum is scheduled to be retired next year, reducing the fleet to 20 vessels (under full service, there's 19 vessels in service year round, 20 late Spring - early Fall and 21 during the Summer). The 5th Olympic Class vessel isn't scheduled to enter service until 2025.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Mar 11, 2022 23:01:20 GMT -8
Also, the Tillikum is scheduled to be retired next year, reducing the fleet to 20 vessels (under full service, there's 19 vessels in service year round, 20 late Spring - early Fall and 21 during the Summer). The 5th Olympic Class vessel isn't scheduled to enter service until 2025. I wonder if Sealth will become permanent inter island vessel?
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Post by Kahloke on Mar 12, 2022 7:17:40 GMT -8
Also, the Tillikum is scheduled to be retired next year, reducing the fleet to 20 vessels (under full service, there's 19 vessels in service year round, 20 late Spring - early Fall and 21 during the Summer). The 5th Olympic Class vessel isn't scheduled to enter service until 2025. I wonder if Sealth will become permanent inter island vessel? That's been the plan all along, as far as I know. It's just been delayed with all of the ongoing funding issues, then the pandemic. Originally, the plan was to have the 5th Olympic entering service by 2023.
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