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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 16, 2007 21:24:28 GMT -8
Let me start this new page, with some Great Lakes stuff. "The Badger"......sounds like a ferry which should travel to Wisconsin, and it does. www.ssbadger.com/The home page of the website has a link to watch a 3 minute video (beware, the jingle song might get stuck in your head). The look of the ship reminds me of the CP's Princess of Vancouver. It is a big ship, with more fun.....
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Post by Fenklebaum on Jan 16, 2007 22:58:22 GMT -8
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Black hull, white superstructre, *a proper funnel*, not one of those 'stylized' monstrosities being plopped on the Super-C's... Steam powered, and in spotless condition... Oh my word.
I recall a debate quite a while ago where I argued over what constituted an attractive ship. Flugel has just presented a perfect example of one. And for that, I praise him.
Fenk, kneeling towards the east
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 17, 2007 7:24:29 GMT -8
I feel the love........  Yeah, Badger looks like a fine ship. I like the look, too.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Jan 17, 2007 9:06:13 GMT -8
I hadn't heard of this ship before. She does have a nice shippy look. The 4 hour cruise sounds interesting. However sailing straight across Lake Michigan would not have much scenery.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 20, 2007 10:23:29 GMT -8
Interesting. I also never heard of this ship before.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 20, 2007 12:09:20 GMT -8
Here's something from their website:
VEHICLES: Due to security restrictions vehicles are not accessible during the cruise. Please remove any personal items needed before you leave your vehicle. Vehicles will be loaded and unloaded for you by LMC personnel. Security is provided on the car deck during the cruise.
- no access during trip, was something that I was expecting. - but the comment that vehicles are loaded/unloaded by ferry personnel caught me by surprise. She's a stern-only loader, and so I guess that somehow explains why loading/unloading is too complicated for a driver. I suppose there's no room to turnaround on the deck, and no turntable....so it's back on or off.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 20, 2007 12:11:54 GMT -8
Here's another item that caught my eye. Re the acupressure bands....I guess this is like a wrist-band? Do they have those things on the QPR for Hecate Strait, too? Can someone explain the science re those devices?
Thanks !
MOTION SICKNESS: The Badger's large size and weight minimizes motion discomfort; however, if motion sickness is a concern, please consider a non-prescription remedy taken prior to boarding. A limited number of acupressure and electronic sea bands are available from the Cruise Director's Office (deposit required). Over-the-counter medications are available in the Badger Boatique gift shop and in ticket offices.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 20, 2007 23:40:12 GMT -8
You cant drive your own vehicle on??? That is crazy! They are so paranoid down there. How many people do they have loading vehicles???
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Post by Retrovision on Jan 21, 2007 0:41:22 GMT -8
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Jan 21, 2007 5:23:24 GMT -8
Here's another item that caught my eye. Re the acupressure bands....I guess this is like a wrist-band? Do they have those things on the QPR for Hecate Strait, too? Can someone explain the science re those devices? Thanks ! I don't know about the "science" (using term lightly, due to skepticism about many "studies" done for "medical devices/formulations" - Dr Bob's White Lightning Potion, guaranteed to cure all that ails you ;D) behind the acupressure bands, but the idea is they put pressure on certain nerves in your wrist which in turn quells the feeling of motion sickness. My wife suffers from severe motion sickness when on a boat or on long trips in the car, and she has an electronic version of this band. Not to sell the product, but www.safehomeproducts.com/shp2/hh/reliefband.asp. Actually gives you a description of how it supposed to work. It seems to work for her...otherwise I'd never get her on a boat! ;D
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Post by Barnacle on Jan 21, 2007 9:43:00 GMT -8
You cant drive your own vehicle on??? That is crazy! They are so paranoid down there. How many people do they have loading vehicles??? What makes you think it's paranoia? As someone who has to have people backing on and off ferries on the multi-destination San Juan Island run, four out of five people really aren't very good at backing their cars, despite what they might think. Most people look over their left shoulder (it's much easier if you look over the right shoulder down the centerline of the car). Some people even open their doors to see how they're doing (and forget to watch their door on obstructions, not realizing they've made their cars wider). I'd gamble it's more of a speed consideration. If WSF policy didn't prohibit us from moving cars for people, we'd probably do it upon request and no doubt get in and out of port quicker. 
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Post by EGfleet on Jan 21, 2007 10:12:04 GMT -8
If anyone is interested, my publisher, Arcadia, has just put out a book about this ferry... tinyurl.com/2m7x98
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 21, 2007 17:14:47 GMT -8
Thanks for all the further info, comrades.
I checked out the railway magazine article that T-Terminal posted the link for......thanks!
I haven't ordered the Arcadia book, as I'm presently in book backlog......I need to make time to read what I've already purchased !
I'd love to sail the Badger.....it would be an interesting experience. That type of local lake traffic is similar in a way to our Coastal travel here in BC/Washington/Alaska....where travel across a body of water is a necessity of life, and also a pleasant diversion. Although the Lake Michigan route's necessity is in time savings and in avoiding the big City of Chicago. Kind of like what Bremerton has with it's ferries, re the faster alternative to driving around....
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Post by Neil on Jan 21, 2007 17:35:39 GMT -8
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Post by D'Elete BC in NJ on Jan 21, 2007 18:50:46 GMT -8
Either one would make for an interesting trip, and a little closer to home for some of us!  I read the article on the train ferries, too. In one of those interesting quirks of fate, today I found out a little about a similar operation between Philadelphia and Camden, NJ. A ferry service has been in operation between Camden and Philadelphia since 1809, in one form or another. Established by Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR) in 1839, the Camden & Philadelphia Steam Boat Ferry Company, bought three boats from a Jacob Ridgway, the Hornet, the William Wray and the Philadelphia, and added two boats, the State Rights and the John Fitch from Camden & Amboy Railroad in order to provide a rail-car ferry service. Though the route was very short...approximately 3/4 mile each direction...the service stayed in operation until 1926 when the Benjamin Franklin Bridge was completed. Competition from trucks and buses over the new bridge made the service unprofitable, and it was shutdown shortly afterward. I haven't been able to dig up much more than this, but I will keep looking. If anyone else can fill in any blanks, I would appreciate it.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 4, 2007 20:34:25 GMT -8
Here's a news article re one of the SS Badger's ports: www.ludingtondailynews.com/news.php?story_id=37068===================== Posted: 8-4-2007 Dedicated:‘Car Ferries of Ludington’ sculpture celebrates ‘our cherished heritage’ KEVIN BRACISZESKI - DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER A crowd gathered at Ludington’s Waterfront Park Friday evening, not only to wave hello to the returning carferry S.S. Badger, but to also applaud efforts that added a new sculpture to the park — a sculpture celebrating Ludington’s long history as a carferry port. “This is our cherished heritage we celebrate today,” said Dr. Bill Anderson, director of the Michigan Department of History, Arts and Libraries and a man who grew up in Mason County and knows well the history of Ludington’s carferries. The bronze sculpture — “The Car Ferries of Ludington” — stands 10 feet high, is 11 feet wide and weighs about 1,000 pounds. It was created by Tuck Langland as an artistic representation of Ludington’s 110-year history of steel-hulled ferries. Anderson spoke about that history and read from a Feb. 15, 1897 newspaper account of the first sailing of a steel-hulled carferry from Ludington harbor. Anderson also spoke of the community’s affinity with Ludington’s carferries, saying many know the Badger’s sailing schedule and come to the harbor to watch it leave or return. He recalled a time when Ludington was port to seven carferries, and also spoke about the economic importance the Badger still has for the community — providing employment for 250 people and a $16.5-million economic impact. “The Car Ferries of Ludington” cost $160,000 and Don Clingan, vice president of marketing for Lake Michigan Carferry, the donations for the sculpture came from 113 families. Clingan served as master of ceremonies for Friday’s event and he thanked those families and the community for the support. “We’ve been waiting for this event for two years,” Clingan said Friday. The sculpture shows a ferry riding on waves blowing smoke with a circle around the boat, smoke and waves. Langland said he didn’t want to just make a model boat, so he came up with the idea for the ring and stylized waves and smoke. He said the ring can represent Ludington’s sunsets and the Badger’s round trip journeys across Lake Michigan. He said he’s proud to have his work included with the other works of art at Waterfront Park. Also speaking at Friday’s event was Alberta Muzzin, who ended her job as chamber of commerce director at noon Friday. A retirement party was held for Muzzin only a few feet from the sculpture dedication ceremony. Many people from her party attended the dedication and Muzzin said she has now attended ceremonies for all the sculptures at the park. Bob Manglitz, LMC president, also spoke Friday, and gave Ron Wood of the Mason County Historical Society a donation of $2,500 toward the creation of a maritime museum in Ludington’s old U.S. Coast Guard station. Many people stayed past the speeches to wave to the Badger as it returned Friday night. As a special salute, a man on the Badger played bagpipes for the crowd. ===================
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Post by Retrovision on Aug 6, 2007 0:01:47 GMT -8
Thanks for that. After a little searching I found this site with interesting photography of this and other car ferries over the years from the area... www.railroadmichigan.com/carferry.htmlI find the lines of the Badger in the superstructure to be similar to Spaulding designs and I've always appreciated these kinds of design similarities. Here's an old one of the area that even had (has?) superstructure lines similar to our classic CPR steamer Princess Charlottewww.railroadmichigan.com/ferrypm32c2.jpg
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 6, 2007 13:14:51 GMT -8
Thanks for those picture links, Mr. Retro.
The first few pictures of the Arthur Atkinson and the dock at Kewaunee, WI reminds me of the CP Princess of Vancouver in her original configuration, and her docks at Vancouver and Nanaimo harbours. Same era, I suppose.
Mr. Retro, when we invent the time-machine, I'll have to take you back to the 1970's to ride the Princess of Vancouver on her Nan-Van run.....
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 19, 2008 7:13:54 GMT -8
The Michigan newspaper "St. Ignace News" has been publishing a series of columns on the history of the Mackinac (yes, that's pronounced "Mack-in-aw") straits ferries and their demise once the big big bridge was built.
The news articles are originally subscriber-only, but are then archived for general web viewing after 4 weeks are past....
I get these mentioned to me each week, in my google alerts that I have emailed to me, re ferry-related newspaper articles.
The weekly newspaper columns are serialized excerpts..and here's how the paper describes one of the weekly instalments:
And here's some notes on the author of the series:
The ferry Vacationland was in last week's column.....so it will be available for our unsubscribed viewing in a few weeks....I'll post the link as soon as it's available.
So what I'll do is use this thread to post the links to the archived, viewable stories. I'll post the introduction paragraph for each item too (similar to what I did above), so that you can see a preview here on this thread. I don't want to post the entire article, in respect of the writer's and newspaper's copyright. But these links will make it easy for you to enjoy these articles at your own pace.
Besides the Sunshine Coast Queen catching your interest, you might just find other interesting things about the history of that ferry service.
Someone on this forum posted a picture of Suzy-Q in her Mackinac days lately....so here's more of that story. This is the straits at the top of Lake Michigan, and the ferries (and bridge now) were the link between towns on the State of Michigan's northern & southern peninsulas.
Enjoy the history.... and maybe there's some parallels to the ferry service to Prince Edward Island??
ps: the weekly columns have lots of pictures !
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