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Post by Mill Bay on May 9, 2011 19:55:44 GMT -8
Glovertown shipbuilders celebrating ferry work
Last Updated: Thursday, April 1, 2010 | 10:47 AM NT
People in Glovertown, N.L. are celebrating a government announcement that six ferries will be built in the province.
“The fact that they're being built on the Island, that gives us great hope and great potential that there'll be a fair bit of work certainly done here at our yard,” Ford Dowden, president of a ship building company called Glovertown Marine Ltd.
The announcement means an estimated $30-million worth of work for 100 people over two years to build vessels for ferry services on Newfoundland's south coast and in southern Labrador.
It’s work that many in the community feared would be done outside the province.
Last fall, Tom Marshall, the acting Transportation and Works Minister, said the province couldn’t control where the work went.
“They're private contractors, they’re private business people who bid on a contract," said Marshall. "I can't tell them where to get their ferries built.”
Back then, Dowden challenged the government’s decision to tender the work in a way that made it likely the vessels would be built in the U.S.
But after the provincial budget was announced this week, Transportation and Works Minister Tom Hedderson said the problem would be solved by having the government own the ferries and contract their operation to private companies.
“As a government, we feel very strongly that we can build these boats here in Newfoundland and Labrador," said Hedderson.
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Post by mrdot on May 9, 2011 23:09:01 GMT -8
:)digesting news items from our east coast ferries, brings me back to the burning question of whether it makes any sence to abandon our in house coastal knowledge, and adopt an offshore so called cheaper solution, not even considering the economy of keeping the home skills and the 'trickle down' effect that rt. wing thinking often espouses! ;)mrdot.
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Post by lmtengs on May 10, 2011 14:43:26 GMT -8
Engine failure prompts mayday from N.L. ferryLast Updated: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 | 5:54 PM NTCBC News Weeks after a public warning that an aging ferry would likely have a mechanical failure, the vessel's engine stopped off Newfoundland's northeast coast and forced the skipper to send a mayday. Passengers and crew members prepared to abandon ship after the 43-year-old MV Inch Arran broke down near Little Bay Islands in Notre Dame Bay on Wednesday — only four days after the breakdown of another old ferry that was also criticized by consultants in October. The report on the province's aging ferry fleet, prepared by BMT Fleet Technology Ltd. and released publicly on Oct. 6, singled out the Inch Arran for criticism and warned that it was at "high risk of major machinery failure." Less than three weeks later, the Inch Arran's only engine quit amid rough seas and strong winds. The 33.5-metre ferry was only about a third of the way on its journey from the Little Bay Islands when it began to drift toward rocks. The skipper lowered the anchor and put out a mayday. "It's an accident waiting to happen, and just an act of God that it didn't go ashore this morning," George Wiseman, one of four passengers aboard, later said. Life-raft didn't inflate
The six crew members aboard lowered one life-raft to the water but found it wouldn't inflate. A second one inflated properly. Three fishing vessels from the area went alongside the ferry, ready to take off passengers if needed. "It wasn't looking that good when we got there," said Colin Weir, one of three longliner captains who steamed out to help. However, the ferry's crew was able to restart the engine and bring the vessel to port in Shoal Arm, Notre Dame Bay. "They got off lucky here today," said Perry Locke, the mayor of Little Bay Islands, who credited the crew for how they handled what he described as a close call. All further crossings have been cancelled for the time being. St. Brendan's ferry broke down 4 days earlierAnother aging ferry, the MV Sound of Islay, broke down on Oct. 21, soon after being put into service as the replacement vessel on the run to the Bonavista Bay island of St. Brendan's. The BMT report found that the Sound of Islay was also at high risk of machinery failure. Overall, the consultants found that some of Newfoundland and Labrador's ferries are so old that maintenance is hampered because parts are no longer made for them. The Newfoundland and Labrador government issued contracts in October to build two new ferries. The BMT report recommended building at least eight new ferries, while streamlining the provincial ferry service to islands and remote communities. I don't understand why a mayday was needed for this engine failure. Wouldn't a panpan have been just fine? The ship itself wasn't likely in danger of washing up, and by the sounds of things, there were ships in the area, so she wouldn't have beached anyway. Maydays are supposed to be called in times of distress when, if not assisted quickly, the ship or the life of a being on said ship could be lost. Pan-pans are a slightly toned down version of a mayday, more of a 'We need help, and quick, but it's not immediately life-threatening'. Is there something I missed in the news story that tells us that a mayday was indeed necessary? |
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Post by cobblehillian on May 11, 2011 19:03:04 GMT -8
The ship is drifting toward rocks without power and the order has been given to board the lifeboats. Anything less than a mayday would have resulted in the master being disciplined, or worse. The presence or absence of other ships in the area does not factor into this. Lives were at risk because passengers were in rafts in the North Atlantic. Need I say more.
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Post by Kahloke on May 27, 2015 4:57:51 GMT -8
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Post by Kahloke on Jan 17, 2016 15:19:20 GMT -8
I found a really cool video on YouTube of the arrival of Newfoundland's newest ferry, MV Veteran.
I've said it before, but I still can't help but think something similar to this vessel might be a good design for the future Northern Discovery.
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 17, 2016 20:37:52 GMT -8
I found a really cool video on YouTube of the arrival of Newfoundland's newest ferry, MV Veteran. I've said it before, but I still can't help but think something similar to this vessel might be a good design for the future Northern Discovery. I agree. It could work not only for the Central Coast, but perhaps also for Haida Gwaii. Have a look at the vessel layout, here. It looks to me as if the Government of Newfoundland & Labrador is doing a much better job of looking after the needs of those living in remote coastal areas then is our BC government here on Canada's west coast. |
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Post by Kahloke on Jan 18, 2016 7:45:12 GMT -8
Have a look at the vessel layout, here. It looks to me as if the Government of Newfoundland & Labrador is doing a much better job of looking after the needs of those living in remote coastal areas then is our BC government here on Canada's west coast. Thanks for posting that. There are some good pics of the interior, too. Have a look here on Damen's page - next to the video link, there are some pictures you can scroll through: www.damen.com/en/news/2015/10/damen_ropax_ferry_mv_veteran_for_canadian_lifeline_vessel_replacement |
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Post by Starsteward on Jan 18, 2016 15:23:57 GMT -8
Basically a very good looking vessel.
Overall, the 'Veteran' minus the Ice-rated hull would seem to be a nice size for the Central coast and a Winter vessel for Haida Gwaii.
A few modifications for the Central coast, ie. a side loading ramp for Bella Bella, and a bit more spacious seating area and more washrooms
would benefit the increase in Summer passenger traffic.
I would lengthen the 'Veteran's' deck 6 by about 35 feet and create a walk-around deck, leading aft to outside passenger seating.
Lengthening Deck 6 would also allow for an increase for interior and exterior passenger seating, while the increased length on Deck 5
could allow for additional seating and washrooms.
Keep the elevated side ramps as an out of the way space for vehicles making a trip from Haida Gwaii through Prince Rupert to Southern destinations.
The fuel type could be redesigned for LNG and if the Norwegians can build battery-powered vessels of similar size, why not?
Our new coastal vessel should dispense with the 'propeller' generation and go to twin azi-pods.
AND, as my proposed concept vessel is likely to materialize somewhere much farther down the road, in the meantime I'm sure that we could obtain periodic performance updates from the good folks at Damen who are setting up shop in Saint John's, Nfld.
Returning to "reality" however..............
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Post by roeco on Feb 1, 2016 2:34:54 GMT -8
I couldn't agree more with modifications this is def. a vessel that should be looked at for a Central Coast/Discovery Coast replacement
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Post by timmyc on Oct 24, 2016 15:14:18 GMT -8
New ice-classed ferry, the MV Legionnaire, for Newfoundland is making her way over to Canada from Damen Shipyards in Romania, via the Bosphorus: /photo/1
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Post by Kahloke on Oct 24, 2016 15:36:40 GMT -8
New ice-classed ferry, the MV Legionnaire, for Newfoundland is making her way over to Canada from Damen Shipyards in Romania, via the Bosphorus Cool! I guess she will be joining her sister, MV Veteran, pretty soon. These are nice looking ferries. |
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Post by FNS on Oct 24, 2016 21:28:42 GMT -8
New ice-classed ferry, the MV Legionnaire, for Newfoundland is making her way over to Canada from Damen Shipyards in Romania, via the Bosphorus Cool! I guess she will be joining her sister, MV Veteran, pretty soon. These are nice looking ferries. That one is in a narrow channel, west of Istanbul, and is most likely slated for a pit stop at Canakkale. The SEASPAN SWIFT passed through this passage on her way to western Canada just recently, soon to be followed by her sister. We are learning lots of geography from all of these many Canadian-bound ferries that have came (and soon to come) from Germany, Turkey, Romania, Poland, et al. |
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Post by yak on Jul 23, 2018 11:56:43 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Sept 10, 2018 23:09:43 GMT -8
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Post by Kahloke on Sept 11, 2018 8:23:23 GMT -8
Thanks for posting. I'm curious about Hiiumaa. That vessel is only 7 years old. I remember it coming up in discussion here in this forum when BC Ferries was looking at building similar vessels, which as we all know, became the Salish Class. Hiiumaa was built for an Estonian ferry operator called Saaremaa Shipping Co., and it ran between the Estonian mainland and Saaremaa Island. In 2016, Saaremaa Shipping Company was replaced by TS Laevad, a Estonian government owned ferry service, and in 2017 Hiiumaa was bought by an investment group. I haven't done any further investigating, but I was curious as to why a 7 year old vessel was already up for sale. |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 4, 2019 21:28:46 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jan 28, 2019 20:09:45 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Feb 23, 2019 19:09:47 GMT -8
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Aug 7, 2019 21:17:02 GMT -8
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Post by dave2 on Feb 17, 2021 12:53:28 GMT -8
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Post by paulvanb on Dec 23, 2021 17:40:48 GMT -8
Travel aboard the ferry from Nova Scotia to Newfoundland.
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