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Post by whalebreath on Mar 18, 2022 6:25:00 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Mar 18, 2022 8:49:35 GMT -8
Not to mention Russian oligarchs buying your soccer teams. The morality of international capitalism and dancing with the devil. It's a despicable action, and hopefully, illegal. If allowed, I would hope that people would boycott P&O and bring them down permanently. Companies in this country do sort of the same thing, althought they have to go about it more carefully. I would never shop in a Freshco grocery store, which are re-branded Safeways, minus the contracts the former workers had before Sobey's closed them down. |
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Post by WettCoast on Mar 18, 2022 13:01:52 GMT -8
DP World, the parent company, owns port facilities in Canada, including the container port in Prince Rupert, and at least one of the container ports in Vancouver. DP World is (apparently) owned by the government of the UAE (middle east).
I always assumed that P&O Ferries was a part of the shipping company P&O, which in turn is owned by Carnival Corp. Does anyone know the corporate history on this file?
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Post by Starsteward on Mar 18, 2022 14:04:04 GMT -8
DP World, the parent company, owns port facilities in Canada, including the container port in Prince Rupert, and at least one of the container ports in Vancouver. DP World is (apparently) owned by the government of the UAE (middle east).
I always assumed that P&O Ferries was a part of the shipping company P&O, which in turn is owned by Carnival Corp. Does anyone know the corporate history on this file?
Doing some research on this topic but I 'think' Carnival didn't want to get into the ferry boat business and spun the P&O Ferries off to DP World. One is constantly amazed when discovering 'who owns what' around the world. For example: The mighty roar of the MGM Lion is now owned by ..... AMAZON! Good grief Mr. Bezos, how much do you need? |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Mar 18, 2022 19:11:16 GMT -8
DP World, the parent company, owns port facilities in Canada, including the container port in Prince Rupert, and at least one of the container ports in Vancouver. DP World is (apparently) owned by the government of the UAE (middle east).
I always assumed that P&O Ferries was a part of the shipping company P&O, which in turn is owned by Carnival Corp. Does anyone know the corporate history on this file?
Doing some research on this topic but I 'think' Carnival didn't want to get into the ferry boat business and spun the P&O Ferries off to DP World. One is constantly amazed when discovering 'who owns what' around the world. For example: The mighty roar of the MGM Lion is now owned by ..... AMAZON! Good grief Mr. Bezos, how much do you need? I think it’s the other way around but I do think Princess & P & O cruises where independent for year or two. |
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Post by Starsteward on Mar 19, 2022 14:47:08 GMT -8
Doing some research on this topic but I 'think' Carnival didn't want to get into the ferry boat business and spun the P&O Ferries off to DP World. One is constantly amazed when discovering 'who owns what' around the world. For example: The mighty roar of the MGM Lion is now owned by ..... AMAZON! Good grief Mr. Bezos, how much do you need? I think it’s the other way around but I do think Princess & P & O cruises where independent for year or two. Please explain how you got Princess Cruises and Pacific & Orient lines tangled up in your response re: P &O Ferries. |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Mar 19, 2022 15:38:36 GMT -8
I think it’s the other way around but I do think Princess & P & O cruises where independent for year or two. Please explain how you got Princess Cruises and Pacific & Orient lines tangled up in your response re: P &O Ferries. Princess cruise was owned by P & O cruises too. |
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Post by Starsteward on Mar 19, 2022 16:17:53 GMT -8
Please explain how you got Princess Cruises and Pacific & Orient lines tangled up in your response re: P &O Ferries. Princess cruise was owned by P & O cruises too. I'm 'fessin-up' because a temporary brain power outage in 1974 failed to register the sale of Princess Cruises to the P & O Steam Navigation Company. Yup, you caught me Blue Bus Fan, dang it,  |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Mar 19, 2022 16:55:53 GMT -8
Princess cruise was owned by P & O cruises too. I'm 'fessin-up' because a temporary brain power outage in 1974 failed to register the sale of Princess Cruises to the P & O Steam Navigation Company. Yup, you caught me Blue Bus Fan, dang it,  That is ok cruises ship groups are confusing. |
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Post by Kahloke on Apr 2, 2022 7:04:48 GMT -8
Here's a video I found on how Dover has been impacted by the P&O shutdown - miles long queuing along the local highways approaching Dover Port. Seeing the aerial shots of the lorries stretching as far as the eye can see is astonishing.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 3, 2022 15:36:15 GMT -8
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Post by paulvanb on Jun 10, 2023 17:09:10 GMT -8
Does anyone have any information of the ferries of Norway? I will be visiting Haugesund and Alesund, Norway in mid-July.
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Post by Neil on Jun 10, 2023 18:08:01 GMT -8
Does anyone have any information of the ferries of Norway? I will be visiting Haugesund and Alesund, Norway in mid-July. Paul, have you noticed that we have a Norwegian member who posts about Norway? I believe he even has his own forum on the topic. Look up 'heretix' in our members list. |
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Post by timmyc on Jun 10, 2023 21:34:58 GMT -8
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Post by Edmondsguy on Jun 12, 2023 16:06:02 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Jun 12, 2023 17:15:12 GMT -8
Wow, those ferries are massive. About 760' long, and over 100' wide. I'd like to see the car deck layouts. Makes sense to have double enders on a route about ninety minutes in length. |
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Post by paulvanb on Jun 12, 2023 22:02:06 GMT -8
Something that long, but modified to fit in one of our berths would sure take a chunk out of ferry line ups here! |
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Post by FNS on Jun 12, 2023 23:38:22 GMT -8
Wow, those ferries are massive. About 760' long, and over 100' wide. I'd like to see the car deck layouts. Makes sense to have double enders on a route about ninety minutes in length. Wow! About 200 feet longer than the "Spirit"-Class BC ferries. I just wonder how long it would take for those giants to unload and load at each end of their voyages? |
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 24, 2023 15:15:38 GMT -8
Wow, those ferries are massive. About 760' long, and over 100' wide. I'd like to see the car deck layouts. Makes sense to have double enders on a route about ninety minutes in length. Wow! About 200 feet longer than the "Spirit"-Class BC ferries. I just wonder how long it would take for those giants to unload and load at each end of their voyages? A pair of these might be just the ticket for alleviating summer traffic woes on Route 1. I wonder, not only about what sort of dwell time would be needed for efficient unloading/loading, but also if these ships could operate through Active Pass, especially, opposing ships as is the norm now, and in fact in most years since 1960.
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Post by whalebreath on Jul 25, 2023 19:47:11 GMT -8
A pair of these might be just the ticket for alleviating summer traffic woes on Route 1. I wonder... if these ships could operate through Active Pass, especially, opposing ships as is the norm now... Yes already ships come altogether too close to the shore of Galiano while westbound Yes I know it's plenty deep but being a literal 'stone's throw' from shore makes me uneasy.
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Post by Neil on Jul 25, 2023 20:25:19 GMT -8
Yes already ships come altogether too close to the shore of Galiano while westbound Yes I know it's plenty deep but being a literal 'stone's throw' from shore makes me uneasy.
... but BC Ferries has been doing it since 1960, with an impeccable safety record. Might make a layman uncomfortable, but I think they always know where they are, in relation to the shore and other vessels. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 28, 2023 10:36:34 GMT -8
... but BC Ferries has been doing it since 1960, with an impeccable safety record. Might make a layman uncomfortable, but I think they always know where they are, in relation to the shore and other vessels. Well, other than the Victoria & Alberni incidents, though those were not primarily related to conflict with other ferries in the Pass. |
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Post by FNS on Jul 30, 2023 14:46:05 GMT -8
... but BC Ferries has been doing it since 1960, with an impeccable safety record. Might make a layman uncomfortable, but I think they always know where they are, in relation to the shore and other vessels. Well, other than the Victoria & Alberni incidents, though those were not primarily related to conflict with other ferries in the Pass. And the "Princess" liners. I guess most of them used Active Pass on their trips between Vancouver and Victoria. Back then, you'd be hearing steam whistles echoing off the shores. I wish I was born earlier to see and hear that! Must have been a magnificent sound!! Might be similar to that of train horns and whistles being sounded in mountain passes like Stevens Pass. |
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Post by Departure Bay on Sept 11, 2023 10:03:56 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 4, 2023 21:00:47 GMT -8
Hey, another 'ferry forum' where ferries on the North American west coast hardly rate a mention ...
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