Mill Bay
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Post by Mill Bay on May 29, 2011 14:02:14 GMT -8
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timo
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Post by timo on May 29, 2011 21:43:01 GMT -8
Thank you for those pictures - they are lovely, and in those conditions the CARIBOU looks dramatic and stylish. Then they have to be happy with the ATLANTIC VISION (from that point of view) as the SUPERFASTs are the best sea-boats I have ever been on.
Those pictures reminded me of a ferry crossing I am very happy not to have been part of. This is the Faroese ferry SMYRIL in really bad weather. I never get sea-sick but wonder if this had not been to much even for me.
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Post by kasco on Aug 21, 2011 5:54:00 GMT -8
Up to this year,2011, Marine Atlantic was plagued with capacity and mechanical issues. Long line ups to cross the Cabot Strait was the norm. This year Marine Atlantic is operating with the new fleet. The Caribou and the Joseph and Clara Smallwood were removed from service and sold to foreign interests, joining the fate of the Atlantic Freighter.
The Leif Ericson underwent a major refit and rejoined the fleet as a commercial carrier. The Atlantic Vision replaced the Smallwood on the Argentia run. The Blue Puttees and the Highlanders are now operating on the Port aux Basques run. And the result? Vessels arrive and depart on schedule. NO LINEUPS
What more can be said!
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mrdot
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Post by mrdot on Aug 21, 2011 9:52:18 GMT -8
:)what more can be said! they are brand new and should be trouble free for the forseeable future, but it is good wether season, and the winter storms will come, and mechaincal issues will come with age, lets see how they are a few years down the line? also our own ageing fleet has mechanical issues as a result of father time, my old QPR is well into her forties, and still plods along, lets see if any of these modern marvels from the fatherland will still be ticking in their forties! :)mrdot.
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Nick
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Post by Nick on Aug 21, 2011 16:46:40 GMT -8
I'm not sure if this is the best thread for this, but I couldn't find a dedicated Marine Atlantic photo thread. As kasco has mentioned above, Marine Atlantic has a very new fleet, which makes the old ships ready to go on to a new life. This is the sight we see across Sydney harbour from the Coast Guard College. The MV Caribou and MV Joseph and Clara Smallwood  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 21, 2011 16:59:56 GMT -8
I'm not sure if this is the best thread for this, but I couldn't find a dedicated Marine Atlantic photo thread. This thread is a great spot for photos of the Atlantic blue-canoes. Thanks for the photos, and I know that I'm interested in reading about what you might learn about east-coast ferries. Cheers from the west coast. |
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Nick
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Post by Nick on Aug 21, 2011 17:56:43 GMT -8
I'm not sure if this is the best thread for this, but I couldn't find a dedicated Marine Atlantic photo thread. This thread is a great spot for photos of the Atlantic blue-canoes. Thanks for the photos, and I know that I'm interested in reading about what you might learn about east-coast ferries. Cheers from the west coast. Well, I was talking to a guy today who was an ERA for Marine Atlantic. Apparently the cost of the lease for the Atlantic Vision can be put toward the purchase of the vessel after the 5 year lease is up, which makes the seemingly extremely high lease cost somewhat more bearable. Also, apparently the ship is capable of 30 kts, which they have used on a few occasions when they get behind schedule. Normally she runs on 2 of her 4 engines to keep the fuel costs down. |
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Post by Neil on Aug 21, 2011 19:44:42 GMT -8
I'm not sure if this is the best thread for this, but I couldn't find a dedicated Marine Atlantic photo thread. As kasco has mentioned above, Marine Atlantic has a very new fleet, which makes the old ships ready to go on to a new life. This is the sight we see across Sydney harbour from the Coast Guard College. The MV Caribou and MV Joseph and Clara Smallwood I wonder what the story is on those incredibly high smokestacks. |
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Mill Bay
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Post by Mill Bay on Aug 22, 2011 21:39:09 GMT -8
I'm not sure if this is the best thread for this, but I couldn't find a dedicated Marine Atlantic photo thread. This thread is a great spot for photos of the Atlantic blue-canoes. Thanks for the photos, and I know that I'm interested in reading about what you might learn about east-coast ferries. Cheers from the west coast. Yes, we can finally get some variety in our east coast photo galleries with our forum spies conveniently stationed there.  |
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Nick
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Post by Nick on Aug 23, 2011 14:19:40 GMT -8
Marine Atlantic chartered two of their new ships (MV Blue Puttees and MV Highlanders) from Stena Line. To make the ships more maneuverable, they removed a 12 metre section just forward of the funnel, and added a new bow thruster. I think this was mentioned earlier, but I was sent a neat video that showed it quite well. www.stenaroro.com/activities/Pages/StenaTraderShortening.aspxNeil: I asked about the smokestacks, and he didn't know of any functional reason for them other than that they run bunker C fuel oil, and sometimes the exhaust can get thick. |
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Post by lmtengs on Aug 23, 2011 14:59:25 GMT -8
Neil: I asked about the smokestacks, and he didn't know of any functional reason for them other than that they run bunker C fuel oil, and sometimes the exhaust can get thick. Maybe partially to hearken back the days of the ocean liners, with their mile-high stacks? Long shot, but maybe  |
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Mill Bay
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Post by Mill Bay on Aug 23, 2011 22:10:32 GMT -8
Marine Atlantic chartered two of their new ships (MV Blue Puttees and MV Highlanders) from Stena Line. To make the ships more maneuverable, they removed a 12 metre section just forward of the funnel, and added a new bow thruster. I think this was mentioned earlier, but I was sent a neat video that showed it quite well. www.stenaroro.com/activities/Pages/StenaTraderShortening.aspxI just watched the videos, and it was really quite amazing! The best part was where they tested the bow ramp, and watching it swing out in time lapse. "Stenability" is really an apt word for describing what the company is willing to do to satisfy the needs of those wishing to charter its vessels. Those are pretty substantial changes to make to an existing ship and hull, and we think that stretching the 7 sisters was groundbreaking. Anyone want to try and shrink them again? It seems that lengthening and shortening of ships is becoming more of a common practice these days, but it must also be a lot easier when many of the ship designs of today are based on modular concepts that can be easily expanded or adapted almost like Lego. |
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Post by lmtengs on Aug 23, 2011 22:46:43 GMT -8
I wonder if Stena Lines is keeping the spare sections for potential future reinsertion?
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Post by Northern Exploration on Aug 24, 2011 9:40:53 GMT -8
Great time lapse. I think the changes were done anticipating a sale at the end of the lease. Kinda like those rent to own stores  . A colleague had nothing good to say about the service. She is visiting family in NS and then her parents in NF. She is going by ferry one way, so will be interesting to hear what she says. |
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Nick
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Post by Nick on Aug 30, 2011 10:55:02 GMT -8
Just an FYI... The MV Smallwood and MV Caribou have left today as of 1400 ADT to their new owners. One went to St. Vincent in the Caribbean, and the other went to the Mediterranean somewhere. I don't know which one went where, but I will try to find out.
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Quatchi
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Post by Quatchi on Aug 30, 2011 12:04:58 GMT -8
They had been renamed as well MV Caribo and MV Smallwood.
Cheers,
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mrdot
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Post by mrdot on Aug 30, 2011 14:10:30 GMT -8
:)well folks, I hate to be pessimistic about this, but how long will it be that we are going to see these onetime eastern flagships dragged up on a east Indian beach, just as the Abegweit, and other younger vessels! mrdot.  |
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Post by kasco on Sept 4, 2011 4:38:58 GMT -8
The 2011 summer season is drawing to a close, the first peak season that Marine Atlantic has operated with the new fleet. A 90% on time performance record and empty parking lots. Never before has this been achieved. The new fleet and the addition of a second loading dock at both Port aux Basques and North Sydney has made this possible. Again I say: WHAT MORE CAN BE SAID. The results speak for themselves.
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Nick
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Post by Nick on Sept 4, 2011 17:25:44 GMT -8
Just because I can... this message is being posted from Marine Atlantic's MV Atlantic Vision.
I have been quite impressed with the service on board, but I'm not particularly fond of the ship itself. More comments on that will come later.
BC Ferries could learn a thing or two from Marine Atlantic, and vice versa.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 4, 2011 17:32:26 GMT -8
Just because I can... this message is being posted from Marine Atlantic's MV Atlantic Vision. Woo hoo ! I knew that it was a good idea to place a couple of ferry-forum members on the East-Coast for a few years. haha. I'm enjoying and appreciating the observations that you and Quatchi have been posting about East Coast shipping. |
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Post by SS San Mateo on Oct 19, 2011 11:58:49 GMT -8
:)well folks, I hate to be pessimistic about this, but how long will it be that we are going to see these onetime eastern flagships dragged up on a east Indian beach, just as the Abegweit, and other younger vessels! mrdot. Someone over at CPTDB mentioned that the MV Caribou and MV Joseph and Clara Smallwood have arrived in Alang and were beached last week. www.cptdb.ca/index.php?showtopic=14272 Edit: Maritime Matters is reporting they have both been beached this week. maritimematters.com/2011/09/call-of-the-torch/ |
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Nick
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Post by Nick on Oct 19, 2011 12:21:00 GMT -8
I have heard the same. They were beached on October 13th, apparently.
Sad, considering they weren't all that old, relatively speaking.
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Nick
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Post by Nick on Oct 31, 2011 11:55:51 GMT -8
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mrdot
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Post by mrdot on Oct 31, 2011 20:54:19 GMT -8
:'(I guess this is troubling for me, as it seems not long ago I was quite involved in these trend setting new marine atlantic vessels as well as the PEI ferry which was also new and trend setting as well. and they have all been dragged up on an alung beach. I guess this is a bit of dating myself, and the mortality thing! :'(mrdot.
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Post by markkarj on Nov 2, 2011 1:37:56 GMT -8
Do ships on Marine Atlantic's runs take more of a beating than those in BC waters? Given the age of some BC Ferries, the Caribou and Joseph and Clara Smallwood were retired seemingly quite early.
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