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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 13, 2008 22:56:11 GMT -8
Here's a question to learn some history, to do some research on dates, and to share your experience:
Question: What is the oldest coastal (north west coast) ship that you've been on?
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My answer: - Ferry: CP's Princess of Vancouver, service-start in 1955. I took several trips as a kid in the 1970's, usually when BC Ferries was on strike.
Close, but not my oldest: Mill Bay, and North Island Princess.
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Post by Kahloke on Dec 13, 2008 23:20:17 GMT -8
For me, that would be the Steel Electrics: Illahee, Klickitat, Nisqually, and Quinault. I've ridden on all 4 of them. They were built in 1927.
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Post by DENelson83 on Dec 13, 2008 23:42:05 GMT -8
I would say the Queen of Sidney would be the oldest vessel I've been on.
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Post by rt1commuter on Dec 14, 2008 0:39:39 GMT -8
MV Lady Rose... I'm surprised more of you haven't said the same.
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Post by Dane on Dec 14, 2008 0:44:59 GMT -8
Illahee, Klickitat, Quinault.... which ever of those is the oldest Then the Mill Bay I suppose.
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 14, 2008 0:59:11 GMT -8
I had to think about this for a minute...
I haven't been on very many vessels other than ferries. Originally I was going to say that the North Island Princess which was built in 1958, to be the oldest one. But thinking waaaaay back to when I was just a tot, I remembered a day trip to Saltspring Island I did on the Vesuvius Queen.
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Post by Mirrlees on Dec 14, 2008 1:22:00 GMT -8
Princess Marguerite ll Built: 1948 and Mill Bay Built: 1956.
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Post by FNS on Dec 14, 2008 1:25:30 GMT -8
The oldest ferry I've been aboard is the Side Wheel Steamer EUREKA. This ferry's hull is of 1890 vintage, and her current superstructure is 1922. The next oldest is the Propeller Steamer BERKELEY of 1898 vintage. And, the SANTA ROSA. These boardings have taken place while these are permanently moored, though. The EUREKA at Hyde Street, San Francisco. The BERKELEY in San Diego (her whistle still works as it is used to page specific employees). The SANTA ROSA is at Pier 3, San Francisco.
The oldest sailing ship I've been aboard is the 1863 STAR OF INDIA in San Diego. I did ride her once on a tow from her current moorage to the Broadway Pier as she was on a special engagement at that dock quite a number of years ago.
With these museum pieces aside, the oldest Puget Sound ferries I've been aboard (while their propellers were actually turning and moving these architectural masterpieces from one side to the other) were the ILLAHEE, KLICKITAT, NISQUALLY, QUINAULT, and CHETZEMOKA. All of 1927 vintage. I may have been aboard some of the smaller older ones in my teeny tot days, but I would have obviously been too young then to realize the age and vessel I would be on.
The oldest BC ferry I've been aboard is the MILL BAY on her namesake run. The other BC ferries have been the QUEEN OF VANCOUVER, QUEEN OF VICTORIA, QUEEN OF TSAWWASSEN, QUEEN OF SURREY, QUEEN OF COQUITLAM (my favourite of all BC ferries), SPIRIT OF BRITISH COLUMBIA (dockside at Ogden Point on her Open Ship), COASTAL RENAISSANCE (dockside at Canada Place on her Open Ship), and either the QUEEN OF BURNABY or QUEEN OF NEW WESTMINSTER (I can't remember which) on the Langdale run in 1986.
Oh, yes. I can't leave out the PRINCESS MARGUERITE and PRINCESS OF VANCOUVER.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 14, 2008 8:37:22 GMT -8
A request re this thread: Please note the year the vessel was launched / service-started, etc. That's part of the fun-intent of this thread, to compare some more launch-dates....
And Mr. Patches, I've been procrastinating about taking a Lady Rose trip for many years. I'm worried that it's now too late and I've missed my chance forever. What year was she launched?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 14, 2008 8:44:58 GMT -8
I haven't been on very many vessels other than ferries. I'm waiting for Neil to post about his trip on the Princess Victoria.... ;D Hopefully there's someone on this forum that can post about taking a Union Steamship....I hope.
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Post by Curtis on Dec 14, 2008 10:08:38 GMT -8
Oldest Ship? I think it goes something like this...
1. Mill Bay (1956) 2. North Island Princess (1958) 3. Coho (1959) 4. Queen of Sidney (1960) 5. Queen of Tsawwassen (1960)
There could be other vessels that I've been on that I can't remember right now.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Dec 14, 2008 10:42:58 GMT -8
The oldest ships for me would probably be
Steel Electrics (Klickitat) MV Mill Bay Coho Queen of Sidney and Tsawwassen
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 10:46:02 GMT -8
The cobwebs are pretty thick but I can remember taking a Union Steamship with my Dad and Mom and some of my family to Woodfibre for a day trip sometime in the mid to late 50's. I'm guessing that it was the Lady Alexandra ( 1923-24). While doing a little research, I found an interesting site ..... www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/unionbc.htm .
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Post by EGfleet on Dec 14, 2008 11:09:56 GMT -8
Carlisle II (1917) San Mateo (1922) Kalakala (1926/35)--doing tours after she came back from Alaska. Nisqually, Klickitat, Quinault, Illahee (1927) Vashon (1930) Kulshan (1954) Evergreen State (1954) Tillikum (1959) Coho (1959) *modified as Barnacle pointed out I'd missed two.
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 14, 2008 11:42:23 GMT -8
EGFleet, you've also technically been aboard the San Mateo (1922)... ;D
San Mateo (technically); 1922 Shasta; 1922 Kalakala, ex-Peralta; 1926/1935 Illahee, Nisqually, Klickitat, Quinault; 1927/1958/198x Skansonia; 1929(?) T/S Golden Bear, ex-SS Delorleans, ex-USS Crescent City; 1940 Rhododendron; 1947/1992 Evergreen State; 1954/1988 Carlisle II, vintage unknown
Modified after EGFleet ponted out that I'd missed two... ;D
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 14, 2008 11:53:51 GMT -8
EGFleet, you've also technically been aboard the San Mateo (1922)... ;D San Mateo (technically); 1922 I smell a funny story here. What's the "technicality"? Did you swim alongside in frogman-gear, and secretly board her one moonless night?
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Post by Kahloke on Dec 14, 2008 12:03:34 GMT -8
The oldest ferry I've been aboard is the Side Wheel Steamer EUREKA. I forgot. I, too, have been aboard the Eureka at the Hyde Street Pier in San Francisco. I also forgot that I rode on the Lady Rose back in the late 80's, so that one may be the oldest BC vessel I have been on.
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 14, 2008 12:22:51 GMT -8
EGFleet, you've also technically been aboard the San Mateo (1922)... ;D San Mateo (technically); 1922 I smell a funny story here. What's the "technicality"? Did you swim alongside in frogman-gear, and secretly board her one moonless night? We were standing on the ramp that was lying on her deck. So all you guys who took the Queen of Sidney tour can claim it too, if you like. I'd have gone on a raid to get something off the San Mateo, but it was more danger than my life was worth.
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Post by Scott on Dec 14, 2008 15:29:06 GMT -8
The Lady Rose (1937) is the oldest ferry I've been on, that I can think of.
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Post by chinook2 on Dec 14, 2008 15:44:56 GMT -8
Revised list
1/.Langdale Queen (1903) 2/.Vesuvius Queen (1950) 3/. Sunshine Coast Queen (1951) 4/. Princess of Vancouver (1955) 5/. Mill Bay (1956)
plus (not sure if it counts): T'Lagunna (1931)
and if some are counting SS San Mateo...
Seven Seas Seafood Restaurant ex North Vancvouver No. 5 (1941)
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Post by Coastal Canuck on Dec 14, 2008 15:47:06 GMT -8
Mill Bay
or posibly 1 of San Fran's ferries (don't know there year's)
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Post by Starsteward on Dec 14, 2008 15:49:54 GMT -8
My understanding is that the original question said: "what is the oldest coastal (north west coast) ship you've been on"? Since some of our members have mentioned the Lady Rose, and Union Steamships etc I guess any old coastal vessel, not necessarily a ferry? Travelled on (sob) the 'Maggie', many times. Worked on the Princess of Vancouver, Secehlt Queen, Queen of Sidney and the Queen of Prince Rupert. I worked on a private charter vessel for some time, the name was the El Primero, a steel hulled 180 foot yacht, built at the San Francisco Iron Works in 1893. Originally steam powered, she was converted to diesel in the 1960's and did charter work out of Victoria and later in Vancouver. There is a great story on her to be found in "Looking Back", 1991 by Earl J. Hohlmayer, Published by Jostens Printing and Publishing Division, Visalia, California. pp. 67- 72. In 2006, while moored in Bellingham, Wa. the Canadian owner, passed away while residing in Alberta, and sadly I cannot report what became of a truly historical ship. There is a lengthy story of her working days in Canada, and the role that Transport Canada played in her withdrawal from revenue service. On fact remains. The El Primero was safe, sound and as seaworthy in 2006 as she was in 1893, upgrades and rebuilds not withstanding.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Dec 14, 2008 17:32:19 GMT -8
If by being "on" you mean boarded, then I have been "on" the Lady Rose. I have also been "on" the Princess Mary or a portion thereof when she was a restaurant. I definitely have never been on the Richmond. I was also "on" the Seven Seas floating restaurant near where the Londale Quay is. It of course was moored and never traveled. I will look up what ferry it was before becoming a restaurant.
Seriously I know the intent is refering to traveling on a ship, so I would imagine the Princess Vancouver, Mill Bay, Coho, Sidney and Tswwassen are the oldest ships on the coast I have been on. All sited previously so I won't include the dates. I know I have been on all of the orginal seven sisters before lifting. As a kid Burnaby was my favourite because that is where I lived. We always tried to travel through Horseshoe Bay on the trip to the Island and then if time allowed came back through Active Pass for the scenery.
I seriously regret never getting to travel on the Princess M, but sure saw her many times in Victoria Harbour. And I am afraid like Flug will never have been on the Lady Rose underway. Reaffirms my desire to get on the Uchuck III.
Outside of the Pacific Northwest, one of the oldest ships I have traveled on are the ones used for Circle Line Cruises of NYC. In the 50's they purchased surplus Large Infantry Landing Craft from the US Navy and converted them to tour boats that literally Circle the Island of Manhattan. One participated in the landings in the Philippines and other South Pacific theatres, some in the landing in Italy and Sicily, and another in the Normandy landings. I have traveled on them with family and friends over about 20 years and have no idea which specific ones I have traveled on though. I do know I have had the gentleman as the same tour guide many many times.
*oops should have said "over 30 years" as corrected by my Dad and the first year we visited NYC when we moved here. As I have said before about him - he rhymed off the exact date off the top of his head. We were smart enough to park our motorhome is a secure lot in NJ and ride into NYC. The city was no where near as safe as it is now.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 14, 2008 18:59:35 GMT -8
and if some are counting SS San Mateo... Seven Seas Seafood Restaurant ex North Vancvouver No. 5 (1941) ....maybe I can count the 1910's CP's Princess Mary, as I've been in her namesake restaurant (including some of her superstructure) in Victoria (in the 1970's). ;D
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 14, 2008 19:21:53 GMT -8
My understanding is that the original question said: "what is the oldest coastal (north west coast) ship you've been on"? Since some of our members have mentioned the Lady Rose, and Union Steamships etc I guess any old coastal vessel, not necessarily a ferry? ... Thanks Mr. Steward. Your post was what I was hoping for. Yes, we've got lots of old ferries, and I figured that WSF's Steel-E's and the North Island Princess, Mill Bay etc would be common "oldest ships" for many of us. But I was also hoping for memories of trips on non-ferries, such as Union Steamships and CP BCCSS ships, and other ships that are less well-known. Thanks for your post.
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