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Post by Retrovision on Dec 12, 2006 6:14:26 GMT -8
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Post by Retrovision on Dec 14, 2006 6:06:47 GMT -8
( From: www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17588829&BRD=1998&PAG=461&dept_id=221589&rfi=6 ) The Powell River Peak
Work begins on ferry keel
12/13/2006Vancouver Shipyards and BC Ferries held a ceremony on Monday, December 11 which marked the keel-laying of the ferry, the third new vessel the company has commissioned since 2004. "Today is a landmark event as we lay the foundation of this new intermediate-size vessel, which will serve our customers on our minor routes for the next 40 years," said David Hahn, BC Ferries' president and CEO. "This ship is a major part of BC Ferries' program to revitalize our aging fleet and to ensure continued operational safety and reliability." The keel is generally the first part of a ship to be constructed. The new intermediate vessel's keel unit weighs approximately 30 tonnes and is the first of over 100 units that will be fabricated and pre-assembled at Vancouver Shipyard's main facility in North Vancouver over the next year. In total, 1,700-tonnes of steel will be required to construct the ship. All of these units will then be trucked to Vancouver Shipyard's Pier 94 location in North Vancouver where vessel construction and outfitting will take place. Once complete, the vessel will measure 100-metres long and will feature a variety of amenities, including a comfortable lounge and snack bar for passengers to enjoy, as well as a new state-of-the-art lifesaving system. The ship will accommodate 600 passengers and will travel at a service speed of 14.5 knots. BC Ferries expects the vessel to be on the Saltery Bay-Earls Cove route by the summer of 2008. In keeping with maritime tradition, the ceremony included placing a coin into the keel blocks just prior to lowering the unit into place. The special edition $20 coin will be retrieved at the time of the launch and presented to BC Ferries. ©The Powell River Peak 2006
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Post by Neil on Dec 14, 2006 13:52:49 GMT -8
Don't know. Not really too concerned about it.
I'm fifty, look older, but feel younger. There's been some 'wastage' in my steelworks, and some would allege, serious breakdowns in the propulsion system.... but I think they're just scandal mongering. So, how old am I, really? Gee, we could get almost metaphysical here, but it probably wouldn't be any more enlightening than determining whether the Sonia is two or five years old.
Does life begin at conception, or at birth.....
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 14, 2006 16:55:44 GMT -8
Life begins at tea time.
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Post by Dane on Dec 14, 2006 17:27:37 GMT -8
So to Hornbyguy & Capt Taylor, We laid the keel in December 2006 and a possible launch date is given for 2008 - so what would the age of this vessel be? Would you record it's age as new 2008 or Would it be recorded in official records as 2006? Now return to the MV Sonia - what then is her true - actual date of birth - is she two years old as claimed by Capt Taylor or older ? 2008. Look at any BC Ferry. You would know that. |
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Post by Curtis on Dec 14, 2006 20:12:57 GMT -8
If they were completly acurate they would say 2006/07/08 but probably they should say 2007 since it started at the end of 06 ends at the beginning of 08
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Post by Dane on Dec 14, 2006 20:49:24 GMT -8
If they were completly acurate they would say 2006/07/08 but probably they should say 2007 since it started at the end of 06 ends at the beginning of 08 No. Vessels get a keel lay date and a service date which is used "publically" as the build date. Cascade is saying they should use the hull date which is true of hull age - he's intentionally confusing two seperate concepts to try and create cotreversy. |
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Post by Neil on Dec 14, 2006 22:38:22 GMT -8
I don't know, Dane. Some people might have you believe the Titanic was actually three years old when it sank. Keel laying date, you know. Is it creating controversy, or just creating mischief....  |
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 14, 2006 23:36:52 GMT -8
The issue re the Sonia's new date is really different than most ships. We say the Queen of Sidney dates from 1960 which is when she went into service. Her keel was, in fact, laid about two years earlier.
The Sonia, however, had about a 5 year gestation period, more than twice the length of most ships. Saying that it is a two year old ship is, in this case, a bit of a stretch.
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Post by Curtis on Dec 15, 2006 8:14:06 GMT -8
A continuation of what I said above but if they wanted to be acurate they could Say Something like
Keellayed 2006
Built 2007
Began Service 2008
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Post by Dane on Dec 15, 2006 15:10:25 GMT -8
They do already on legal documentation.
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 15, 2006 15:31:05 GMT -8
Well, by the looks of the traditional dates of Ferry launchings, the "New Intermediate Vessel" will be known to have been launched in 2008. Some examples: The Queens of New Westminster and Nanaimo both had their keels laid on May 24th, 1963. BC Ferries claims that both of these vessels were both constructed in 1964. The Nanaimo was launched on December 3, 1963, and made its inaugural voyage on June 5th, 1964. The New West wasnt launched until May 12th, 1964, and made its inaugural voyage on August 4th, 1964. So it's not out of the ordinary at all, for ships to start their life once they began service. Makes sense to me, really.
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Post by Neil on Dec 15, 2006 16:12:12 GMT -8
And in regard to the Sonia, it sat for a few years in a climate which compares favorably with most of Europe as to rainfall and humidity (you can check the stats). No stresses of wind, wave, or load. As oceaneer reports, negligible rust factor. Like all other boats, then, date it from launch.
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Post by Taxman on Dec 15, 2006 18:49:58 GMT -8
BC FERRIES ANNOUNCES NAME OF NEW INTERMEDIATE VESSEL
- Introducing the Inlet Crosser–
VICTORIA – BC Ferries is pleased to announce that it has selected the name for the new Intermediate Vessel which was recently laid down.
BC Ferries has decided that the new intermediate vessel planned for the
Earls Cove – Saltery Bay route will bear the inlet family name to emphasis the unique nature of the route. The vessel in the series will be named Inlet Crosser to exhibit the vital role BC Ferries has in crossing bodies of water.
“Our ferries have been crossing bodies of water for a long time,” said David L. Hahn, President and CEO. “Especially inlets, we thought that now would be a good time to recognize this fact.”
BC Ferries has also released the name of the next vessel in the inlet series.
“We have decided to name the next inlet series vessel the Inlet Traveler, and it has been earmarked for the Mill Bay – Brentwood Bay route, which is currently served by the oldest vessel in the fleet,” remarked Mr. Hahn.
"Although B.C. Ferries has not picked good names recently, if you seriously believed this, then you maybe gullible," User Gunther of the BC Ferries Forums noted.
Media Contact:
Not BC Ferries, Communications
Victoria: (250) 555-5555
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Dec 15, 2006 20:31:24 GMT -8
The new vessel for the saanich inlet will be named "Inlet Traveler" is the rumor spreading.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 16, 2006 10:40:08 GMT -8
Brilliant  Thank you Mr. Gunther. |
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Post by Curtis on Dec 16, 2006 11:58:51 GMT -8
Be careful what you say. It might come true.
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Post by Mike C on Dec 16, 2006 12:06:13 GMT -8
Be careful what you say. It might come true. Shhh!! Hahn is watching |
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Post by oceaneer77 on Dec 16, 2006 12:51:06 GMT -8
Ok I am confused?
The mill bay route has one of the smallest ferries servicing that route...
but it is to get an Inlet classs ferry to service the route next? is this a hoax..
Would not a vessel of that class be overkill?
Dylan H
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Post by Curtis on Dec 16, 2006 15:20:53 GMT -8
I believe you've fell for the joke. This would have made a great April Fools Joke
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 16, 2006 18:43:58 GMT -8
Ok I am confused? The mill bay route has one of the smallest ferries servicing that route... but it is to get an Inlet classs ferry to service the route next? is this a hoax.. Would not a vessel of that class be overkill? Dylan H Oceaneer77 nice straight-man deadpan styling, Dylan. |
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Post by Balfour on Dec 18, 2006 21:01:48 GMT -8
I was believing that until Gunther mentioned himself in the phony news release.
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