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Post by zman on May 19, 2007 18:19:17 GMT -8
Okay...the KLICKITAT and ILLAHEE are at Todd Shipyards right behind each other...
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Post by northwesterner on May 19, 2007 18:46:50 GMT -8
Okay...the KLICKITAT and ILLAHEE are at Todd Shipyards right behind each other... Yeah - I noticed them today when I was on the viaduct. Its neat to see them side by side. I never realized that the Klickitat has a different shaped car deck opening than the other three. Also notice how much better looking the Klickitat's wheelhouse is compared to one on the Illahee. Its definately the Klick's most redeeming quality.
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Post by Barnacle on May 19, 2007 19:09:44 GMT -8
Awesome pic Zman! Thank you!
The Klickitat's pilothouse is also far superior to the other three in that there is room for the bridge team. The other three have rather constipated pilothouses.
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Post by zman on May 19, 2007 21:51:06 GMT -8
It was interesting to see them together like that. Also, the Taku (Alaska Ferries) was in front of the two, as she was taken out of drydock yesterday.
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Post by SS San Mateo on May 22, 2007 8:41:09 GMT -8
They're both in drydock now (went in sometime yesterday).
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Post by zman on May 23, 2007 7:43:22 GMT -8
I saw that...it is awesome to see both of them up there at the same time...the Illahee went in first, then the Klickitat.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jun 15, 2007 20:42:57 GMT -8
I was driving over the Viaduct tonight and then the WS Bridge and did not see the Illahee nor the Klickitat in drydock at Todds.
I didn't pay much attention in looking for the two boats while on the Viaduct until I passed Colman dock, so they may be on the east side of the facility.
Has anyone else seen the boats or know if they are back at Eagle harbor?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 15, 2007 21:14:45 GMT -8
I can go and check tommorow if ya want, I want to get back out on the water anyways.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 15, 2007 21:33:37 GMT -8
I checked this evening and they were next to the Taku.
When are they scheduled to return to service?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2007 8:05:26 GMT -8
Down at Eagle Harbor the two out of service Steel Electrics have yet to arrive. My Father was over in Seattle yesterday and saw one of the (he thought it was the Klickitat) on trails in Elliott Bay. I thought I might see one down here today but it's still the same set of boats. Elwha, Rhody & Tillikum.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jun 21, 2007 11:28:01 GMT -8
I logged on to the WSF website at lunch today and at slip Number 2 the Illahee was docked. I saw no current activity but she must be on sea trails getting ready for the Islands.
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Post by hergfest on Jun 21, 2007 12:48:22 GMT -8
If the Elwha doesn't come back, I would think the Illahee would take over for the Evergreen, the Evergreen comes to Vashon, and the Sealth comes back to the Islands.
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Post by lest69 on Jun 21, 2007 16:04:01 GMT -8
The Rhododendron is currently northbound for the islands. I'll watch and see if one of the current island boats heads south.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2007 16:14:20 GMT -8
Ok I just checked the WSF vessel watch and the Illahee appears to be approaching the Pt Defience terminal. Looks like the Hiyu is going to be heading back to Eagle Harbor.
BTW.... I was on the 9:40am sailing from Bainbridge to Seattle yesterday when we passed the Klickitat in tow by a Foss tug en-route to Eagle Harbor. She is tied up there now.
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Post by BreannaF on Jun 21, 2007 16:26:59 GMT -8
Just in on the WSF site:
Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:11PM
Point Defiance/Tahlequah Route - Update The 59 car Illahee will be replacing the 34 car Hiyu starting with the 5:30pm sailing from Pt. Defiance. The Illahee will stay on this route until the Rhododendron returns.
We will be operating on a normal weekday schedule.
Oh well, so much for the Hiyu's day in the sun.
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Post by zman on Jun 22, 2007 20:00:31 GMT -8
I saw the Hiyu heading back to Eagle Harbor yesterday...I also saw the Illahee leaving Todd yesterday morning. The Klickitat also left Todd earlier this week.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 25, 2007 13:55:03 GMT -8
The Klickitat is back at Pt. Townsend/Keystone, but it appears she's replacing the Quinault (based on the Quinault not being on vessel watch).
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Post by In Washington on Jul 12, 2007 12:51:36 GMT -8
An excerpt from KOMO-TV.com
The Coast Guard says some of the old steel-hulled ferries in Puget Sound are showing their age.
Pinhole leaks have been found in boats that first set sail when Calvin Coolidge was president.
Mike Anderson, the executive manager of the State Ferry System, says It's not really surprising.
"You know these are 80-year-old boats and they take maintenance and care just like all of us as we get a little older," he said. "You take a little more care to get up and get going in the morning."
The Coast Guard told KOMO 4 News the problems were discovered by the ferry system. But the Coast Guard is ordering more frequent inspections and asking the state to come up with a maintenance and inspection program which reflects the age of the vessels and the impact of salt water on the steel hulls. Years ago, concrete ballast was poured in the hulls, and the Coast Guard wants that removed to facilitate inspections. Other ballasting measures are said to be available.
Although the Coast Guard says the ferry system found a six-inch crack in the hull of the Klickitat and small pinholes in the hull of that ferry and others of the same age (Illahee, Quinault, and Nisqually), Captain Steve Metruck of the Seattle Coast Guard Station says riders should rest easy.
"You should not worry, he said. "We can guarantee that those vessels that are in service meet the safety standards and are safe to operate and to carry passengers and vehicles."
Cecil Yother takes the ferry to and from Keystone, where two of the boats in question are used.
"They're like anything. If you don't take care of them, it's going to bite you," she said. "I've been dealing with race cars all my life. I always have the same thing in mind - if you don't take care of it, it's going to kill you."
Ferry officials say that's their concern, too.
"Since 1951 when the state took over the ferry operations, we've never had a passenger die in our service. And, we don't intend to start now," Anderson said.
Two of the old steel electrics are already in maintenance yards. The others will be. That will mean some boat juggling. There could be some delays on some runs.
The ferry manager says action will be taken to keep service interruptions to an absolute minimum. The impact in Seattle is expected to be zero. But for those planning a trip to the San Juans next week, a word to the wise - HiYu, a 25-car ferry will replace a larger steel electric. That could force some delays.
The Coast Guard says it will be meeting with the ferry system Thursday to discuss a new maintenance and inspection protocol.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 13, 2007 19:53:11 GMT -8
When was the concrete added as a ballast? Was it during the 1st rebuilds of the 50's, or during the remodels of the 80's, when the all steel upper works were added?
What kind of new inspections are going to be required to keep these vessels in service? Will they be once or twice a year?
I read that WSF has earmarked funds for the repairs. Has anybody heard of what those repairs are going to be?
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 13, 2007 21:13:54 GMT -8
I don't know when the concrete was added, but your theory of needing it when the heavier upper house was added makes sense to me. I haven't heard what the inspections will entail, nor how frequent. I would think that there will be an assortment of eyes kept on those boats from here on (if there weren't already). The most obvious answer about the type of repairs would be hull plating. There's bound to be wastage under the concrete, and I'm not talking smack about the Steel-Electrics when I say this. It's just a fact of salt water life. And, if I may add yet again with all the insistence of a Beethoven theme, they're old.
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Post by In Washington on Jul 18, 2007 10:01:42 GMT -8
I think I remember being told that when they repowered the Klickitat with the Wartsilas they left the old engines in the engineroom as ballast too. Maybe that was something I was told back in the 80's when I had memory problems and I assigned the memory to the wrong boat.
It happens
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 18, 2007 10:22:28 GMT -8
I remember hearing something of that too, but I also recall that when Black Ball re-engined the boats in the early 1940s that they left two of the four original New Londons in for ballast. (They were removed in... um... 1958, I think, when they put the steel car decks on.)
At any rate, I've also had ferryboaters insist to me that the USCG had either (a) set fire, (b) sunk, or (c) capsized the ferry Governor,, which you and I knew as the Kulshan. None of these is true, of course.
Martha's Vineyard doesn't use her much these days... I wonder if the ol' Gov is for sale? We might need a new Keystone boat in a hurry... ;D
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Post by FNS on Jul 18, 2007 11:57:09 GMT -8
I remember hearing something of that too, but I also recall that when Black Ball re-engined the boats in the early 1940s that they left two of the four original New Londons in for ballast. (They were removed in... um... 1958, I think, when they put the steel car decks on.) At any rate, I've also had ferryboaters insist to me that the USCG had either (a) set fire, (b) sunk, or (c) capsized the ferry Governor,, which you and I knew as the Kulshan. None of these is true, of course. Martha's Vineyard doesn't use her much these days... I wonder if the ol' Gov is for sale? We might need a new Keystone boat in a hurry... ;D Before she comes back, though, she'll need a new upperwork and something to stabilize her hull. A superstructure like one that the QUEEN OF CAPILANO has with high side bulwarks at the ends and an elevator. This vessel rolled quite a bit. I took a ride aboard her to Whidbey on a rough day in the 1970s and water crashed over her side bulwark. People stood on the side just to get soaked. We used the north slip at Clinton that trip. I think they took her out of service afterwards until things calmed down. Just wondering what kind of weather constraints she has before her when she goes out onto the Atlantic Ocean on her trips to Vineyard Haven from Woods Hole! ;D Other than the GOVERNOR, their ferries there have doors at each end and the freight boats have high ship-styled sharp bows and open deck space aft of the forward structure (they load and unload trucks at the stern). A current story of this service and a potential new life for the former MV ferry ISLANDER, with mention of the GOVERNOR, is at: www.mvtimes.com/news/2007/07/12/islander.php
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jul 18, 2007 12:19:33 GMT -8
I remember hearing something of that too, but I also recall that when Black Ball re-engined the boats in the early 1940s that they left two of the four original New Londons in for ballast. (They were removed in... um... 1958, I think, when they put the steel car decks on.) I thought they were re-engined after WWII using engines from surplus navy vessels.
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Post by In Washington on Jul 18, 2007 12:35:23 GMT -8
Ahhh the Kulshan.
It has a kind of narrow hull and, at least when WSF had it, very small rudders. The rudder issue would be a problem at the entrance to Keystone.
When we had strong tides at Southpoint (Hood Canal days) it was really hard to land the Kulshan. Spring lines and lots of waiting for it to come over against the dolphins.
Nah, the Kulshan is not one we want back.
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