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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 7, 2007 20:04:52 GMT -8
Yeah, two 240 car vessels for Bainbridge, then we can take there Mark 2's  Just what to do with the Jumbos would be my question. I thought of the nutso idea of putting them at whidbey on clinton to mukliteo due to all those waits. |
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Post by hergfest on Jul 7, 2007 21:00:14 GMT -8
They haven't put bigger boats on the Clinton route due to the dwell time. It would take longer to unload them then to travel the route. WSF's last long range plan includes putting mutiple smaller vessels on the routes. Four Issaquah+ boats are in the future for Edmonds/Kingston.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jul 7, 2007 21:59:28 GMT -8
Just wanted to inquire how the Q-boat is coming along. Are they just fixing her breached hull or are they taking care of some other needed maintenence now that she is off line.
(A little painting on her sides might be nice too!) ;D
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 7, 2007 22:01:33 GMT -8
They haven't put bigger boats on the Clinton route due to the dwell time. It would take longer to unload them then to travel the route. WSF's last long range plan includes putting mutiple smaller vessels on the routes. Four Issaquah+ boats are in the future for Edmonds/Kingston. I think that is ridiculous due to the frequency being every forty minutes, might as well prepare for some C class sized vessels. |
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Post by BreannaF on Jul 7, 2007 22:38:03 GMT -8
I was going through recent ferry pictures today putting together a gallery, and found an interesting one on the Quinault from the middle of May.  So, this guy is riding back and forth on the ferry as part of some arts program, playing the harp to entertain the guests. He was pretty good and the passengers were duly entertained. But my wife said it had a sort of "Titanic-like" quality about it, whatever that means. Must have had something to do with the music and the usual choppiness of the ride (she'd never been on the route before ). The musician never skipped a note. The picture I missed was on the car deck at the end of the trip -- with the guy with a harp walking off and the lady with a cello walking aboard.... |
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Post by Barnacle on Jul 8, 2007 8:05:09 GMT -8
Just wanted to inquire how the Q-boat is coming along. Are they just fixing her breached hull or are they taking care of some other needed maintenence now that she is off line. (A little painting on her sides might be nice too!) ;D I believe she's scheduled for her annual yard period very soon anyway, so she's sidelined until that's complete. I don't know dates on that... I haven't seen the Illahee out and about yet, so either that was a more complicated job than I imagined or it got more elaborate after they got it out of the water. |
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jul 8, 2007 12:27:47 GMT -8
Quinalt is at Eagle Harbor as of Friday.
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Post by EGfleet on Jul 11, 2007 13:43:26 GMT -8
More on the continuing issues with the ancient Steel E's....
Old ferries' care found lacking
By Scott North and Kaitlin Manry, Herald Writers
SEATTLE - Detailed safety inspections have been ordered for four Washington State ferries with leaking hulls that were launched when Calvin Coolidge was president.
Washington State Ferries on Tuesday announced it is evaluating its 80-year-old Steel Electric-class ferries, the Klickitat, Illahee, Nisqually and Quinault.
The ferries serve runs on Whidbey Island and in the San Juans.
The move came after a June 26 letter from the U.S. Coast Guard demanding changes in how the ferries are inspected and maintained.
The water-tight integrity of the ferries' hulls has "been compromised repeatedly" over the past year because of the corrosive effects of salt water on aging steel, wrote J.D. Dwyer, chief of the Coast Guard's inspection division in Seattle.
"These occurrences are serious in nature, and indicate that the current preventive maintenance and inspection schedule is not sufficient for this class of ferry," he added.
The ferry system has responded with a $2 million plan to meet the Coast Guard's demands.
The in-depth evaluations and possible repairs likely will affect ferry riders during this summer's tourist season.
There will be shifts in service to accommodate the work, said Marta Coursey, communications director for the ferry system.
The state believes the Steel Electric ferries are safe and they have been approved for operation by the Coast Guard, Coursey said.
"They basically understand what we all know: The boats are 80 years old, and they require more and more maintenance," she said.
Built in 1927, the Steel Electrics are the oldest ferries operating on salt water in the U.S.
The condition of the vessels has come under increasing scrutiny since March, when a 6-inch crack developed in the Klickitat's hull. That was one of at least a half-dozen breaches or holes in the ferry's riveted steel-plate hull over the past 10 years, according to a review of state maintenance records.
Last year, nearly 767,000 passengers rode the Klickitat and other Steel Electric ferries between Keystone Harbor on Whidbey Island and Port Townsend on the Olympic Peninsula.
When the crack was found in the Klickitat's hull in March, ferry workers closed the breach by welding on a steel plate. Within days, Coast Guard inspectors ordered the vessel pulled from service for more extensive repairs, interrupting ferry service to Port Townsend.
Lt. Cmdr. Josh Reynolds, then assistant chief of Coast Guard inspections in Seattle, told The Herald in a June 22 interview he was convinced the Steel Electrics are safe.
"We do detailed inspections with the most experienced inspectors we have," Reynolds said. "If there's anything wrong, we make them fix it."
The Coast Guard in its June 26 letter to state officials said the normal inspections and structural examinations of the vessels are not sufficient, and "as the continuing trend of hull failures indicates, additional measures are needed."
Since the Coast Guard's letter, inspections have been completed on all the Steel Electric ferries except for the Quinault, which has been taken from service, according to a letter from Paul Brodeur, the state's director of vessel maintenance and preservation.
The Coast Guard has further ordered that the state by Aug. 1 remove any concrete that has been installed within the hulls as ballast, a step that will allow closer inspection of the steel.
The ferry system also was ordered by Aug. 15 to submit for Coast Guard approval a plan that addresses long-term repair and maintenance of the steel hull plating on the ferries, including identification of hull sections with problems.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Sept 18, 2007 19:27:28 GMT -8
So does anybody know what is up with the Q-boat? It has been mentioned elsewhere on this board that out of all of the Steels, she was probably in the best shape.
I think Barnacle also mentioned that he has not heard what is up with her either. I am just curious to know if she has more problems relating to the mechanical side of things.
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Post by FNS on Sept 18, 2007 19:58:11 GMT -8
I think she needs a paint job. I've seen many recent photos of her with rust on her Main Deck outer shells.
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Post by FNS on Sept 18, 2007 20:15:21 GMT -8
They haven't put bigger boats on the Clinton route due to the dwell time. It would take longer to unload them then to travel the route. WSF's last long range plan includes putting mutiple smaller vessels on the routes. Four Issaquah+ boats are in the future for Edmonds/Kingston. They have. In the middle of the night when the KULSHAN was over on the Canal (or when the I-Class were made fast due to problems before 1982). When the Edmonds Super was done there, she would go north and do a trip for oversize loads between Mukilteo and Clinton, tides permitting. This was put to rest in 1982 when the CATHLAMET and KITTITAS were placed on the run. The HYAK was on the two-month Edmonds-Clinton detour one weekend when the Mukilteo dock was being retrofitted for the I-Class. Going back on topic of this thread, the QUINAULT was the biggest ferry we have ever seen on the Mukilteo run when she was subbing for the RHODODENDRON one day in the mid 1970s. It wouldn't be too long when we had the ILLAHEE and NISQUALLY working together for a few years by the turn of the 1980s.  |
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Post by Barnacle on Sept 18, 2007 21:44:27 GMT -8
I think she needs a paint job. I've seen many recent photos of her with rust on her Main Deck outer shells. Yet somehow I don't think that's the focus of the drydocking! |
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Post by SS San Mateo on Sept 19, 2007 6:27:29 GMT -8
So does anybody know what is up with the Q-boat? It has been mentioned elsewhere on this board that out of all of the Steels, she was probably in the best shape. I think Barnacle also mentioned that he has not heard what is up with her either. I am just curious to know if she has more problems relating to the mechanical side of things. According to one of the articles posted, she is expected to be back in service in November. |
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Oct 18, 2007 16:57:30 GMT -8
If the Quinault is finished with her hull and stern tube repair on time, which is early November, will she replace the Klickitat early?
The Klickitat is scheduled to go out of service in late November.
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 18, 2007 20:41:43 GMT -8
I suppose it's possible. If the Klickitat needs an extensive survey done, I would think the sooner they could get her out of service the better. But I'm not in charge.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Nov 10, 2007 21:12:54 GMT -8
Can anyone provide an update on the Quinault's progress since she is supposed to be close to being finished at Todd's?
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Post by Barnacle on Nov 11, 2007 8:05:01 GMT -8
Other than she's still at Todd's last time I checked, no.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Dec 6, 2007 8:33:03 GMT -8
I was looking at a blog and someone mentioned that the Quinault appeared in the movie "Double Jeopardy". I thought the ferry in that movie was a BC ferry painted in WSF colors. Did the Quinault appear in that movie?
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Post by Mill Bay on Dec 6, 2007 9:21:43 GMT -8
I was looking at a blog and someone mentioned that the Quinault appeared in the movie "Double Jeopardy". I thought the ferry in that movie was a BC ferry painted in WSF colors. Did the Quinault appear in that movie? As I recall the ferry in "Double Jeopardy" was either the Tachek or Quadra Queen II, and I don't think they really did much color changing either. In the movie, when they went up to the lounge, the Tommy Lee Jones somehow gets a cup of coffee, even though I don't know where he would have found that on the Tachek, but it was one of the old BC Ferries coffee cups with the waves running around it... and he poured his flask into it if that says anything about ferry coffee. |
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Post by Curtis on Dec 6, 2007 13:48:01 GMT -8
I was looking at a blog and someone mentioned that the Quinault appeared in the movie "Double Jeopardy". I thought the ferry in that movie was a BC ferry painted in WSF colors. Did the Quinault appear in that movie? As I recall the ferry in "Double Jeopardy" was either the Tachek or Quadra Queen II, and I don't think they really did much color changing either. In the movie, when they went up to the lounge, the guy somehow got a cup of coffee, even though I don't know where he would have found that on the Tachek, but it was one of the old BC Ferries coffee cups with the waves running around it... and he poured his flask into it if that says anything about ferry coffee. It was the Tachek Disguised as a Washington Sate Ferry. |
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Post by hergfest on Dec 6, 2007 18:34:02 GMT -8
The Quinault was in "The Ring".
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Post by EGfleet on Dec 6, 2007 19:17:21 GMT -8
The Quinault was in "The Ring".    |
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Post by SS Shasta on Dec 6, 2007 22:41:09 GMT -8
Stock footage of a Steel Electric on San Francisco Bay also appears in a mid 1940's movie starring Claire Trevor. Can't remember if it was BORN TO KILL or RAW DEAL. I thought it was interesting because the ferry had actually arrived on Puget Sound several years before the movie was made. The close-up scenes taking place on the ferry were clearly made on a studio set.
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Post by Barnacle on Dec 7, 2007 7:33:41 GMT -8
I understand that a shot from an airplane, banking over a Steel-Electric, is in China Clipper (1936, Humphrey Bogart) as well. Either way, your film memories would have been shot in 1947/1948. (Movie trivia courtesy of imdb.com ) |
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Just what to do with the Jumbos would be my question. I thought of the nutso idea of putting them at whidbey on clinton to mukliteo due to all those waits.
