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Post by Starbucks Queen on Apr 24, 2006 13:17:48 GMT -8
No, my logic is not flawed. You should get the facts right. There was not any right to attack Afghanistan. Al Quaida´s head is, btw a Saudi Arabian. Watch the news - the people involved in the attacks of 11 st September were from Maroc, from Egypt, and were students on the Uni in Hamburg, Germany. Although Afghanistan was Taliban-ruled and that there is evidence that Al Quaida members found a "good home" there, it´s still just a faulty excuse to call that a "human aid action". As well, you said, I can trash American invasions - they did that, after 11 th Sept. And Canada the ol´yes-yes sayer did follow, together with other countries.
So, combine the fact - it was not Afghanistan which did attack the US, and Canada did never get attacked.
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Post by Dane on Apr 24, 2006 14:05:30 GMT -8
No, my logic is not flawed. You should get the facts right. There was not any right to attack Afghanistan. Al Quaida´s head is, btw a Saudi Arabian. Watch the news - the people involved in the attacks of 11 st September were from Maroc, from Egypt, and were students on the Uni in Hamburg, Germany. Although Afghanistan was Taliban-ruled and that there is evidence that Al Quaida members found a "good home" there, it´s still just a faulty excuse to call that a "human aid action". As well, you said, I can trash American invasions - they did that, after 11 th Sept. And Canada the ol´yes-yes sayer did follow, together with other countries. So, combine the fact - it was not Afghanistan which did attack the US, and Canada did never get attacked. They also got their training in the United States. That is irrelevant.. nationality isn't how you base an attack. It is determined by where the planning and financial base of acts come from. If the news is your primary form of information to base an opinion an issue like this, well, that's a bad thing. If someone attacked Canada I would expect other nations to come to our aid. So Canada was a good 'ol yes-sayer because we believe in helping our friends. If your country gets attacked should we just leave you to fend for yourself? No.In conclusion - America was attacked by the Afghanistan and Canada was part of the response to such actions because we hold: 1. Political Alliances 2. 3 Major Military Alliances (NATO, NORAD, JDT) 3. Canada did not follow into Iraq because, unlike Afghanistan, it wasn't based on a defensive/legal principle.
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Post by Starbucks Queen on Apr 25, 2006 9:19:40 GMT -8
As I said, please get your facts right before you do start to write things and try to get some more information.
- USA did not get attacked by Afghanistan. The USA got attacked by an International network of terrorists, which were, and are based in different countries.
This is the first time in history, when a country was not attacked by another country but a multi-national network of terrorists !!! So it´s pretty much of a nonsense to say that the USA got attacked by Afghanistan.
The ones who flew into the World Trade Center were students from Egypt and Maroc. The head of Al Quaida is a Saudi.
Also, in case you think about starting that the Taliban regime had to be deleted off the earth. During the years when Afghanistan was in war with Russia, Afghanistan had support from USA, they got weapons etc. from there and the Taliban-regime was strengthened to fight the Russians out of the country.
This has nothing to do with helping a friend, that suggestion is rather naive.
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Post by Neil on Apr 25, 2006 10:20:13 GMT -8
.... and let's not forget the USA's former friendship and arms sales to Saddam Hussein, back before he was outed as one of the head honchos of the 'axis of evil'. As a famous American once said of one of the USA's former tyrant allies, "He may be a scoundrel, but he's our scoundrel." Indeed, as long as the Taliban was useful in fighting the Russians, our southern neighbour couldn't care less about democracy, the rights of women, or any of the other great causes they usually espouse. (Note: the word wasn't 'scoundrel', but apparently I'm not being allowed to print the actual word twice. Censored?)
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Post by Retrovision on Apr 28, 2006 16:06:46 GMT -8
Likely unrelated (I'm assuming it was in tribute to people killed on the job) Ladner's Save-On-Foods grocery store has lowered it's large Canadian Flag to half mast, btw. (As of yesterday, atleast)
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Post by Dane on Apr 30, 2006 23:52:11 GMT -8
As I said, please get your facts right before you do start to write things and try to get some more information. I have... again I say an terrorist organization supported the backbone of the Afghani government. Disagree all you want, but Al Quieda and the Taliban are like Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen. The ones who flew into the World Trade Center were students from Egypt and Maroc. The head of Al Quaida is a Saudi. All also took classes in Afghanistan, and the United States at the now infamous crop dusting school. Like I said earlier I'm not concerned with where they were trained, but am concerned that these locations too be shut down. They were, because these countries are more astute to international politics. Also, in case you think about starting that the Taliban regime had to be deleted off the earth. During the years when Afghanistan was in war with Russia, Afghanistan had support from USA, they got weapons etc. from there and the Taliban-regime was strengthened to fight the Russians out of the country. If you've never noticed, which is possible, I don't claim to be a fan of US political decisions. So for your record, I am not a fan of US foreign policy. This has nothing to do with helping a friend, that suggestion is rather naive. Niave? Military alliances, political alliances exist for a reason. Call NATO niave all you want, but I will never agree. NATO sanctions Afghanistan, they do not Iraq.
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