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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Sept 24, 2010 21:06:54 GMT -8
Here's another ship to ID. It could be the 'Cumberland or the 'Capilano. It's an older photo, taken between 4 and 9 years ago. I'd like to know the ship name and the terminal in the background, if possible. I'd help, but......  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 24, 2010 21:20:45 GMT -8
Luke: Without a doubt, that is the Queen of Capilano, and it's the Porteau Cove dock in the background. (Thanks for giving me the honours, Scott !  ) |
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Sept 24, 2010 21:24:56 GMT -8
(Thanks for giving me the honours, Scott ! ) That's because you have the answer everytime! ;D |
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 25, 2010 13:13:34 GMT -8
Whoops. The photo didn't attach last night... redo! So yeah, I think it's the Cappy or the Cumby... but where? I dunno. Attachments:
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Sept 25, 2010 13:19:48 GMT -8
Whoops. The photo didn't attach last night... redo! So yeah, I think it's the Cappy or the Cumby... but where? I dunno. That is Berth 2, Horseshoe Bay at the left of the photo. The photo was definitely taken aboard the Capilano while in Berth 1... |
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 25, 2010 13:22:44 GMT -8
Thanks, Scott!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 7, 2010 14:05:03 GMT -8
Here's a collage that's displayed inside the Swains outdoors store at Port Townsend, WA. Presumably all 4 photos are the same ship. Does anyone know which ship this may be?  (the store is right next to the Port Townsend ferry terminal, in case someone like JR wants to get a closer look....  ) |
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 7, 2010 16:01:25 GMT -8
Those are not all of the same ship.
It looks like the Top-left, Top-right, and bottom-left are all the same ship, but the bottom right is not. I am not at all sure, but the 3 that appear to be the same could very well be one of the Northland Navigation cargo-ferries. Why it would've been down in Port Townsend, I have no idea. Maybe it was before NN bought the ship.
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Post by Neil on Nov 7, 2010 21:39:42 GMT -8
Those pictures don't resemble anything that Northland ever had. Northland had one or two CP/Union vessels, but for the most part they had small freighters that happened to carry a few passengers. The vessels pictured also look to be of an older vintage, and have fairly extensive superstructures. I'd guess they were ships that might have sailed all up and down the Pacific coast, and maybe further.The last one definitely looks like an ocean liner. I'll guess vintage 1920 for all of them, and I'll take a stab at Pacific Steam Navigation for the company.
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 7, 2010 22:42:07 GMT -8
After closer looking, Neil's right. Not Northland, as I previously suggested. But wouldn't the non-ocean liner ship be a bit big for going up and down the coast, and that's it?
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Post by mrdot on Nov 7, 2010 23:23:01 GMT -8
ok the immages are a little fuzzy but they are two of the small packet liners run out of Seattle to Alaska by the onetime Alaska SS.Co. one is I believe Baranof, and one may be Alaska. probably evergreen or one of the Seattle members can confirm this, mrdot.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 8, 2010 12:45:42 GMT -8
My initial guess, when I cropped my photos last night, was that those ships were Northland. I thought it might be the Northland Prince.
- then I checked some photos of the N'Prince, and saw that on the N'Prince, the superstructure is at the aft-end of the ship, not the middle. But to me, my pictures still had Northland feel to them, likely biased by what my memory thought the N'Prince had looked like.
Thanks for all of your for your comments on the pictures.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 4, 2011 13:14:18 GMT -8
That's the Princess Joan or Elizabeth. In my mind, the Joan & Elizabeth are identical in appearance. The distinguishing feature for me for this class of 2 ships is the "lifeboats double-stack" in the 2nd and 3rd lifeboat positions. |
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Post by Mike on Jan 4, 2011 14:34:52 GMT -8
That's the Princess Joan or Elizabeth. In my mind, the Joan & Elizabeth are identical in appearance. The distinguishing feature for me for this class of 2 ships is the "lifeboats double-stack" in the 2nd and 3rd lifeboat positions. Here's what I should have said, to be more clear. One word makes all the difference. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 4, 2011 22:39:19 GMT -8
I have been scouring Robert Turner's Princess volumes this evening to see if he has anything to say about differences between the 'Night Boats' that might allow one to determine which one was which. I came up empty handed. Perhaps FNS or my brother, Mr. DOT, might know of some means to tell them apart.
EGF, the photo is from Victoria Harbour, right? Is that the Bapco Paint plant in behind (site where the Laurel Point Inn stands today)? Do you have a date for this photo other than sometime between 1930 and 59?
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Post by mrdot on Jan 4, 2011 23:37:55 GMT -8
:)ok, I think I've got the minute difference between Joan and Elizabeth, on the prom deck set of observation windows imediately abaft the forward gangway ports the the first and third square ports on the Joan were greater beam than those of her sister, as a conseguence the fuzzy print immage is probably Elisabeth. hope this helps, mrdot. |
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Post by EGfleet on Jan 5, 2011 8:19:34 GMT -8
I have been scouring Robert Turner's Princess volumes this evening to see if he has anything to say about differences between the 'Night Boats' that might allow one to determine which one was which. I came up empty handed. Perhaps FNS or my brother, Mr. DOT, might know of some means to tell them apart. EGF, the photo is from Victoria Harbour, right? Is that the Bapco Paint plant in behind (site where the Laurel Point Inn stands today)? Do you have a date for this photo other than sometime between 1930 and 59? It is in Victoria, and dates from the mid 1950's. It's from an old slide that was rather pinkish and I had to do a pretty hard color correction on it. |
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Post by mrdot on Jan 5, 2011 10:29:18 GMT -8
:)looking again at that fuzzy pic, I believe it is the Elizabeth out bound and the backdrop is the Vic. west industrial waterfront, not the opposite Bapco site inbound! All those years ago my first job was at Babco plant briefly before going aboard QPR first B watch! in 1966! :)mrdot.
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Post by FNS on Jan 7, 2011 22:34:00 GMT -8
Here's a collage that's displayed inside the Swains outdoors store at Port Townsend, WA. Presumably all 4 photos are the same ship. Does anyone know which ship this may be? (the store is right next to the Port Townsend ferry terminal, in case someone like JR wants to get a closer look.... ) Here's what I've dug up for our musical moderator. I have a book in my private library called: Pacific Coastal Liners by Gordon Newell and Joe Williamson. Happily to say, I have positively identified each of the four ships. They are all different, not the same as our mm thinks.  These are of the Alaska Steamship Company's SS BARANOF, SS MOUNT MCKINLEY, SS DENALI, and SS COLUMBIA.  From the book.  From the book showing the SS COLUMBIA leaving Seattle. The ferry MV ROSARIO is in the background.  From the same book, but not part of the four that we are identifying, we see another Alaska Steamship vessel named SS ALEUTIAN with our beloved Steel-Electric ferry MV ILLAHEE in the 1940s.  So, after satisfying our musical moderator's wishes of positive identification of the four ships above, I conclude this posting in graceful fashion by adding a double page spread from the same book of the first PRINCESS MARGUERITE in a photographer's dream setting. This will undoubtedly be placed in the PRINCESS MARGUERITE section in this forum. |
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Post by mrdot on Jan 7, 2011 23:12:30 GMT -8
:)in my extensive retirement room library is copy #223 autographed edition of gordon newell/joe williamson's book and most other titles that have ever been discussed in this forum, now I have the time I guess I had better review some of this extensive collection, as I do not know all that I have emassed in this room! I will have to get brother wettcoast to do a photologue of this den, to share with the membership! my late father-in-law warned me that I was becoming a pack rat, and that was years ago, and many less volumes ago! :)mrdot.
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Post by deepsea on Jan 7, 2011 23:36:49 GMT -8
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Jan 7, 2011 23:42:22 GMT -8
Queen of Vancouver.
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Post by deepsea on Jan 7, 2011 23:44:57 GMT -8
Ok thanks!
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Post by piglet on Feb 17, 2011 9:05:00 GMT -8
I found this picture in my files when I was straightening them up. It is from the Hutchinson-Mathews collection taken by E. Plant on August 29, 1951 in Vancouver of course. I am curious as to which ship this is. Attachments:
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 17, 2011 9:19:59 GMT -8
I found this picture in my files when I was straightening them up. It is from the Hutchinson-Mathews collection taken by E. Plant on August 29, 1951 in Vancouver of course. I am curious as to which ship this is. That ship is the CP Princess Elaine. She was the regular Nanaimo-Vancouver CPR car-ferry during the 1950's. My Elaine clues are the 3 Funnels and the straight superstructure. ie. the outside of the ship is all flush-edge, without any partial promenade-decks. - Many of the other CP BCCS ships had partial promenade decks, which I think is the CP signature-look. But not the 'Elaine. |
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