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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 19:22:18 GMT -8
Recently I've been noticing small ads appearing here and there regarding meetings for the Langdale Master Plan. Wait, "Langdale Master Plan"? Yup.
These information sessions will likely be low key, but if anyone is free and feels like a ferry ride on one of the days I'd encourage you to attend. -Tuesday, June 4th from 1-6pm at the pick-up area at the Langdale Terminal (just past the baggage area when you get off the ferry) -Wednesday, June 5th from 12:40-6:30pm aboard the Surrey at the travel ambassador's desk -Thursday, June 6th from 6:20-11am aboard the Surrey at the ambassador's desk BIG changes are coming to Langdale. I've heard they're planning on replacing berth 2 with a double deckes, floating berth. The foot passenger long-term parking area is also on the list for expansion. Apparantly they're considering ticketing so commercial vehicles stop ripping them off, too. This would allow for some much-needed improvments at our terminal. BC Ferries is not making a big effort to announce these information sessions, and I'm not surprised. I don't think they want Sunshine Coast style-politics to interfere with a normal Terminal Upgrade. -Expect a front page article in the Coast Reporter next Friday though  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 6, 2013 12:42:26 GMT -8
Further to SC Commuter's post, here's an excerpt from the April 2013 Ferry Advisory Council meeting re the Langdale Master Plan:
These minutes are OLD and I've not noted any further progress in the capital planning process from the Quarterly Reporting which I regularly follow.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 11, 2014 10:21:32 GMT -8
A close-up view of the berth at Langdale. Seen from the upper vehicle deck of Queen of Coquitlam, July 7, 2014  |
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Post by gnaz on Oct 13, 2015 14:32:15 GMT -8
Langdale 1973 - Langdale Queen in Berth, Sunshine Coast Queen departing. Photo from BC Archives item l-16598  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 13, 2015 15:42:18 GMT -8
Langdale 1973 - Langdale Queen in Berth, Sunshine Coast Queen departing. Photo from BC Archives item l-16598 Salvation Army's "Camp Sunrise" in the foreground. I went there twice as part of their cubs program, but that was when B-class were serving this route. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 18:59:10 GMT -8
As usual, with bare minimum advertising, the Southern Sunshine Coast FAC will be meeting next Tuesday, October 27th, from 14:30-17:30 at the Roberts Creek Hall. This is quite a long meeting. And unlike last year, this year's meeting seems to be scheduled so that BCF representatives get back to the Mainland the same night.
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Post by Dane on Sept 30, 2016 11:53:25 GMT -8
The Stormaway service to Keats / Gambier will be operating from Gibsons Public Pier vice Langdale from January - April 2017 to facilitate berth replacement.
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Post by Curtis on Oct 13, 2016 12:57:18 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 13, 2016 20:57:14 GMT -8
I am still trying to understand why BCFS has opted to spend money in this way at Langdale now. Double decking & upgrading of the secondary berth would seem to make more sense & it would allow berth 1 to remain in full operation. They could then upgrade berth one at a later date.
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Post by Neil on Oct 13, 2016 21:32:24 GMT -8
I am still trying to understand why BCFS has opted to spend money in this way at Langdale now. Double decking & upgrading of the secondary berth would seem to make more sense & it would allow berth 1 to remain in full operation. They could then upgrade berth one at a later date. It does seem a bit odd. Although the two C class vessels will probably be operating on a lower crewing level, they'll still be putting out a lot more in wages than if they could wait, and as you suggest, do this work after upgrading the second berth. Maybe the condition of the marine dock structures simply doesn't allow them the time. |
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 13, 2016 21:49:58 GMT -8
I am still trying to understand why BCFS has opted to spend money in this way at Langdale now. Double decking & upgrading of the secondary berth would seem to make more sense & it would allow berth 1 to remain in full operation. They could then upgrade berth one at a later date. It does seem a bit odd. Although the two C class vessels will probably be operating on a lower crewing level, they'll still be putting out a lot more in wages than if they could wait, and as you suggest, do this work after upgrading the second berth. Maybe the condition of the marine dock structures simply doesn't allow them the time. It would sure be nice to get from BCFS their rationale on this project. |
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Post by roeco on Oct 14, 2016 10:19:01 GMT -8
I wonder why they don't just use the articulated ramp on the Surrey? Instead of having two vessels sailing hourly?? Would it not cost less to modify the schedule and take the time to use the ramp instead of the arrangement they will be doing?
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Post by roeco on Oct 14, 2016 10:20:03 GMT -8
Also does anyone know if the Coastal Class we're built with articulated ramps??
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 14, 2016 10:59:02 GMT -8
Also does anyone know if the Coastal Class we're built with articulated ramps?? No articulated ramps on any of the Coastal Class ships. |
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Post by Kam on Oct 16, 2016 20:42:54 GMT -8
Also does anyone know if the Coastal Class we're built with articulated ramps?? No articulated ramps on any of the Coastal Class ships. They where however, built with the option to install them at a later date if needed. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 16, 2016 20:56:32 GMT -8
No articulated ramps on any of the Coastal Class ships. They where however, built with the option to install them at a later date if needed. I thought this was the case with platform decks. But articulated ramps (ie. internal ramps that would join the Coastal's main car deck to the upper car deck) aren't something I was aware of with the Coastal design potential. |
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 17, 2016 11:12:42 GMT -8
They where however, built with the option to install them at a later date if needed. I thought this was the case with platform decks. But articulated ramps (ie. internal ramps that would join the Coastal's main car deck to the upper car deck) aren't something I was aware of with the Coastal design potential. I think you are right, Mr. Horn. There is provision for hoistable ramps on the MCD (such as are/were on the Spirits), but not for a ramp up to the UCD, as on the classic 'C's ... |
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Post by futureferrydriver on Oct 19, 2016 9:41:45 GMT -8
I am still trying to understand why BCFS has opted to spend money in this way at Langdale now. Double decking & upgrading of the secondary berth would seem to make more sense & it would allow berth 1 to remain in full operation. They could then upgrade berth one at a later date. I'm also curious as to why they're choosing to put all this money into berth 1 rather than berth 2. On top of the points already mentioned, I would think in the long run operating route 3 primarily out of berth 2 would improve the efficiency of the route slightly. The current "U turn" that has to be performed to line up with and depart from berth 1 isn't exactly the most efficient process ever. A slight realignment of berth 2 would give a vessel coming from HSB a much more straight in approach and departure than berth 1 and could surely cut at least a couple minutes off of the crossing time, probably not enough to justify altering the schedule but ever minute counts on a route that is delayed more than it's fair share. The only reason I can think of for BCF doing 1 over 2 is that berth 1 is possibly a bit better protected in a storm, but Langdale is already in such a sheltered area I don't imagine that's a huge factor in the decision. (Plus berth 1 would still be there if they ever couldn't dock in 2 for whatever reason.) |
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Post by roeco on Oct 19, 2016 19:44:58 GMT -8
Has their ever been any mention of BCF wanting to double deck Berth 2?
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Post by Kahn_C on Jan 28, 2017 22:16:36 GMT -8
Some pictures of the marine structure removal going on at Langdale berth 1. Hard to see much of what's going on, but it looks like they're still yanking the old wing walls. The end dolphin looks mostly untouched. The berth 1 upper apron has been removed.  Langdale Berth 1 Deconstruction by K_C, on Flickr  Langdale Berth 1 Deconstruction by K_C, on Flickr |
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Post by WettCoast on Feb 4, 2017 17:39:46 GMT -8
The Vancouver Sun has an article on the temporarily improved schedule on route 3:
The reader feedback is, as usual, entertaining, as in the following example:
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Post by northwesterner on Feb 4, 2017 21:31:24 GMT -8
The Vancouver Sun has an article on the temporarily improved schedule on route 3: If BCF mgmt is a truly surprised that Sunshine Coast residents prefer more frequent service with smaller capacity vessels they should seek out a new line of work. There's a reason airlines don't fly 747s between New York and Los Angeles any more. Travelers always prefer frequency over capacity. |
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Post by Neil on Feb 4, 2017 23:01:47 GMT -8
The Vancouver Sun has an article on the temporarily improved schedule on route 3: If BCF mgmt is a truly surprised that Sunshine Coast residents prefer more frequent service with smaller capacity vessels they should seek out a new line of work. There's a reason airlines don't fly 747s between New York and Los Angeles any more. Travelers always prefer frequency over capacity. I doubt that BC Ferries was surprised by the feedback. I was surprised that they went to the huge expense of providing the same capacity, but with two vessels. Most likely, very few users reflected on how much this all cost. |
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Post by mirrlmak on Mar 22, 2017 15:03:50 GMT -8
So Langdale now has a floating berth like Swartz Bay? Does anyone have pic of this transformation yet?
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Post by Dane on Mar 24, 2017 12:10:06 GMT -8
So Langdale now has a floating berth like Swartz Bay? Does anyone have pic of this transformation yet? It actually got installed two days after you posted this; and it's not a full floating system (or at least yet?)  I tried to photograph it today but there's so much "stuff" in the way it was a bit futile. And by photograph I mean my phone so zoom options were very limited. BC Ferries has a Service Notice out for the 22nd (ish) to 30th of March stating vessels need to approach Langdale slowly due to Berth construction. I'm in Langdale now having arrived on the Coquitlam; slow is not an exaggeration. Sailing time was 52 minutes. We literally crawled in for the last kilometre+ into the dock. Boarding is also delayed by single file for larger vehicles. The accumulated delays from the combination of the slow approaches and single file loading for some have been extreme. The Island Sky is less effected, presumably because of size allowing a faster approach, but, gets held up as the day goes on by the Coquitlam. |
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I tried to photograph it today but there's so much "stuff" in the way it was a bit futile. And by photograph I mean my phone so zoom options were very limited.