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Post by umi_ryuzuki on Jul 28, 2022 14:02:58 GMT -8
Good Gosh, my first thought was, "It's the Elwha..."
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Post by FNS on Jul 28, 2022 15:25:42 GMT -8
From:
"Washington State Ferries" <WSFAlert@wsdot.wa.gov> To: (my email address) Subject: Ferry Alert: Faunt/Va/SW - Update - Fauntleroy Terminal Re-Opened/Kitsap Joins Route
Date: Jul 28, 2022 4:12 PM
Fauntleroy terminal has re-opened and Kitsap has joined the route, restoring two-vessel service. Both vessels will be making unscheduled all-stops sailings until further notice while we work to reset the schedule. Updates will be provided as they become available.
This alert was sent on 07/28/2022 at 4:12PM to subscribers of the following routes:
Pt. Defiance / Tahlequah
Fauntleroy / Vashon / Southworth
(This posting is being replicated to the WSF Service Note thread)
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Post by Neil on Jul 28, 2022 17:25:25 GMT -8
Good Gosh, my first thought was, "It's the Elwha..." Wow. That's amazing. What part of the dolphin did it hit... I can't imagine any part of the inside of the dock causing that much damage.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Jul 28, 2022 18:42:18 GMT -8
Good Gosh, my first thought was, "It's the Elwha..." Wow. That's amazing. What part of the dolphin did it hit... I can't imagine any part of the inside of the dock causing that much damage. Was the outer (south-facing) side of the south-western most dolphin.
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Post by FNS on Jul 29, 2022 5:26:23 GMT -8
MORE VIDEOS OF THE CRASH:
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Post by SS San Mateo on Aug 2, 2022 13:21:13 GMT -8
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Post by Kahloke on Aug 2, 2022 19:34:53 GMT -8
I moved all the posts related to the Cathlamet crash into the Cathlamet thread
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Post by northwesterner on Aug 2, 2022 19:48:04 GMT -8
Getting harder and harder to comprehend what was happening on that bridge.
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Post by Neil on Aug 2, 2022 20:12:00 GMT -8
Getting harder and harder to comprehend what was happening on that bridge. Yes it is. Very unusual, and rather troubling. I was expecting to hear about mechanical failure, an older vessel... that's virtually always what comes of investigations into incidents like this. Instead, we have a resignation, and no insight from management. Stay tuned, I guess...
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Post by northwesterner on Aug 2, 2022 21:09:03 GMT -8
Getting harder and harder to comprehend what was happening on that bridge. Yes it is. Very unusual, and rather troubling. I was expecting to hear about mechanical failure, an older vessel... that's virtually always what comes of investigations into incidents like this. Instead, we have a resignation, and no insight from management. Stay tuned, I guess... Yep. I was off the grid over the weekend, so tried to catch up last night. Initially I assumed, hard landing, and that the dolphin hit was on the north side of the terminal. Bad current, bad wind, misjudgment of conditions, etc. But instead we have the vessel way off course, striking the outside of the southern dolphin on the port side. One could imagine a situation where the vessel was coming in hot and had a control failure and wouldn't back down, so the captain ordered her pointed at the beach rather than the dock full of cars and used the dolphin to slow her down. But if that was the case, why the resignation? And why would the USCG allow her to move under her own power (with a new crew) back to Eagle Harbor later in the day after a control failure? Every time I try and rationalize what could have happened, I can't logic my way to a conclusion. I guess we will have to stay tuned.
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Post by Kahloke on Aug 4, 2022 14:11:31 GMT -8
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Post by SS San Mateo on Aug 29, 2022 19:10:34 GMT -8
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Post by northwesterner on Aug 29, 2022 20:24:00 GMT -8
Whoa. The picklefork went straight into the dolphin and there was someone out there (crew?). He could have been killed.
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Post by wanderlust90 on Mar 6, 2023 10:59:22 GMT -8
Per Twitter (which I haven't been able to link properly this AM), the Cathlamet was seen being towed by tug, presumably to Eagle Harbor. She is looking good as new, and I imagine only needs minor work and sea trials at this point.
WSF replied to another tweet stating that "Cathlamet is scheduled to return to service in April and will be part of the rotation during trial restoration service for the Triangle route."
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Mar 7, 2023 12:10:15 GMT -8
Per Twitter (which I haven't been able to link properly this AM), the Cathlamet was seen being towed by tug, presumably to Eagle Harbor. She is looking good as new, and I imagine only needs minor work and sea trials at this point. WSF replied to another tweet stating that "Cathlamet is scheduled to return to service in April and will be part of the rotation during trial restoration service for the Triangle route." Spotted at Eagle Harbor just now, in Slip B (the rear car-style slip) looking very good as new. She joins the what appears very not service ready Chimacum, who doesn't even have her life boats installed right now.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Mar 30, 2023 10:29:54 GMT -8
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Post by Kahloke on Mar 30, 2023 13:04:49 GMT -8
The ruling isn't really a surprise. Of course, this is just the WSF internal investigation. I'm curious if the NTSB and USCG investigations will have any additional findings beyond the pilot error cause.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Mar 30, 2023 13:20:07 GMT -8
According to this artice in the West Seattle Blog, the Cathlamet is expected to return to service this weekend (one week stint on the Edmonds-Kingston route before returning to the Fauntleroy-Vashon-Southworth route).
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Post by Neil on Mar 30, 2023 19:02:02 GMT -8
Fascinating story. Human error, but no evidence of impairment due to alcohol or drugs. Then there's the prior history. Makes one wonder about how WSF, or any other operator, evaluates someone's fitness to command after various incidents that might give rise to such questions, and what rights people in his position might have to complicate a reassignment, or even removal. I don't know. Just fortunate in this case that there was just damage to the dock, and the vessel, with only one passenger affected.
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Post by northwesterner on Mar 31, 2023 13:44:00 GMT -8
Fascinating story. Human error, but no evidence of impairment due to alcohol or drugs. Then there's the prior history. Makes one wonder about how WSF, or any other operator, evaluates someone's fitness to command after various incidents that might give rise to such questions, and what rights people in his position might have to complicate a reassignment, or even removal. I don't know. Just fortunate in this case that there was just damage to the dock, and the vessel, with only one passenger affected. Not just human error but a couple procedural problems on the bridge as well. On departure from Vashon the captain passed control to the other bridge without the mate being present. On arrival at Fauntleroy, quartermaster was reading a memo rather than focusing on his lookout duties. Reminds me of Delta Airlines 1141, where the Cockpit Voice Recorder captured the pilots + a flight attendant chit chatting about everything but the tasks at hand while holding on a runway rather than focusing on what is needed for a proper take-off. The FAA cracked down on the "sterile cockpit" rules where full attention must be given to the task at hand including prohibition of any discussion of topics unrelated to take off or landing. Seems like a lot of problems on that vessel and with that crew, particularly at a critical moment of the trip (landing).
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Apr 5, 2023 12:14:32 GMT -8
Having checked out the repairs onboard, I'd say everything looks all fixed up 100% (as expected, of course) but it all looks really nice and smooth with the rest of the vessel. Only note is that the very end of the picklefork on the left side (by the life ring in photo #1) is of a different style than the rest of the ship. Obviously a vessel this small is somewhat inadequate for this route and offers limited cabin space for all the leisure travelers, but it should only be temporary until the Spokane returns to the route in the next few weeks and Cathlamet can rejoin FVS for the 3-boat trial. M/V Cathlamet - No. 2 End Picklefork Repairs by Jay Cassady, on Flickr M/V Cathlamet - No. 2 End Repairs by Jay Cassady, on Flickr M/V Cathlamet - No. 2 End Repairs by Jay Cassady, on Flickr
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Post by SS San Mateo on Oct 12, 2023 11:43:45 GMT -8
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Post by Kahloke on Oct 12, 2023 12:23:16 GMT -8
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Post by northwesterner on Oct 13, 2023 12:13:10 GMT -8
The most bothersome part of this report to me is not the sensational "he fell asleep" headline, but the total lack of compliance for bridge procedures while docking. This was also noted in the internal WSF report released a few months ago.
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Post by trainguru on Oct 13, 2023 18:41:58 GMT -8
Easiest way around that, is to save it using "Wayback Machine". Put the link, save it to the Internet Archive, and then read it. It's very helpful.
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