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Post by SS San Mateo on Dec 19, 2010 11:19:56 GMT -8
Wow Vashon has alot of Berths or I mean Slips as WSF says. Looks like 2 plus a tie up Slip?? Yes, and there is also a passenger-only dock connected to the main dock. The second slip was added in the late 1950's and the tie-up slip was added in the 1970's (it used to be located next to the #1 slip and I don't know if it was relocated after the 1950's dock expansion.)
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Post by SS Shasta on May 1, 2011 15:00:37 GMT -8
I forget: When vehicles at Southworth want to be unloaded at Vashon, are they loaded first on the vessel before Fauntleroy traffic? What is done with last minute arrivals for Vashon? Do they have to wait for the next vessel.
Would Vashon traffic for Southworth have similar problems when they load last? How do heavy traffic periods impact this patten of loading?
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Post by Barnacle on May 1, 2011 15:36:58 GMT -8
I do believe that the same end of the boat (#1, for the record) puts in at Vashon and Southworth. If the boat is going westbound from Vashon to Southworth, it's probably pretty empty and the loader can either send them on a lap around the boat (common) or make them back on if spinning is not an option. I would assume the same goes for SW->VI traffic.
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Post by Kahloke on May 1, 2011 21:11:39 GMT -8
I do believe that the same end of the boat (#1, for the record) puts in at Vashon and Southworth. If the boat is going westbound from Vashon to Southworth, it's probably pretty empty and the loader can either send them on a lap around the boat (common) or make them back on if spinning is not an option. I would assume the same goes for SW->VI traffic. The few times I have ridden the boat from Southworth to Vashon, that's exactly what they do (i.e. lap around the boat, or "spinning"). They do load Vashon cars first to accomplish this, followed by the Fauntleroy traffic.
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Post by zargoman on Jul 12, 2011 21:07:24 GMT -8
At Southworth, Vashon bound traffic is loaded first. They board and lap around. The Fauntleroy traffic boards straight on. Any large vehicles going to Vashon are backed on last. Going to Southworth from Vashon, things can get funny. After the traffic from Fauntleroy unloads, the traffic boarding to Southworth is loaded and sent around so they are facing the dock. However, it can become an interesting maze because of the traffic going to Southworth that originated from Fauntleroy. It's easy on the Issaquah, as the main deck wings are usually empty after off-loading at Vashon. The thru traffic is usually stored on the ramps. The single-deck boats sometimes end up with cars facing two different directions in the same lane. It's all sorted out when the boat docks. I was looking through some old images that I have and came across this...It was when the Issaquah was out of service and there were not any other larger boats to replace her. It was before the Steel Electrics were retired and judging the condition the boat was in, I don't think that WSF was planning to have the Evergreen State in service for too much longer...That was, until the S/Es were pulled. SVF Evergreens by zargoman, on Flickr
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Post by SS San Mateo on Aug 30, 2011 18:40:05 GMT -8
Vashon ferry terminal disappearing into the fog (09/17/2010):
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Post by SS San Mateo on Sept 14, 2012 19:19:20 GMT -8
Arriving @ Fauntleroy on a foggy morning...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 18:58:35 GMT -8
Why does WSF keep switching the Issaquah to the first vessel on the route, move the Sealth to the second vessel on the route and move the Tillikum to the third vessel on the route? Does this happen every Sunday? Does this happen on any other day?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 16, 2012 19:34:18 GMT -8
Why does WSF keep switching the Issaquah to the first vessel on the route, move the Sealth to the second vessel on the route and move the Tillikum to the third vessel on the route? Does this happen every Sunday? Does this happen on any other day? I'm guessing that it's the same reason as why you change your posting and writing style from day to day. - Just random, no reason. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 20:02:46 GMT -8
Does this happen every Sunday? Does this happen on any other day? Maybe because it happens every Sunday. Maybe because it happens on any other day ;D
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 16, 2012 21:38:45 GMT -8
Why does WSF keep switching the Issaquah to the first vessel on the route, move the Sealth to the second vessel on the route and move the Tillikum to the third vessel on the route? Does this happen every Sunday? Does this happen on any other day? I'm guessing that it's the same reason as why you change your posting and writing style from day to day. - Just random, no reason. ;D I think it's about time to stop harping on Cheese for his posting style... that ship sailed out of Tsawwassen weeks ago. He either cares about his grammar or he doesn't, just like a few others on this forum.  I've found that there are five overall kinds of posters: -Grammatic nuts: These are the crazies. They review every sentence of every post they make, ensuring that no words are overused, all semi-colons, interrobangs, hyphens, and carets are used appropriately, and making sure that run-on sentences are kept to a minimum. Nuts may occasionally use thesaurical references, or even make up their own words (like 'thesaurical') to preach their grammatical superiority over others. Grammatic nuts can occasionally become rather irritating in their quests to overcomplicate the English Language. -Average Joe: Average Joes are basically your standard run-of-the-mill poster. Likely you. They post with at least an English 12 understanding of language, and sometimes review their posts for clarity and conciseness. -Fluctuating level of give-a-crap These people can be confusing. Sometimes, their posts are quite well-written, full of full-stops, commas, capitals, and the like. Other times, you can refer to the 'really couldn't care less' category for what you can expect out of them. -Really couldn't care less: These people just don't care what you think about their grammar. Rarely are these people frequent posters, but each time they do post, the Average Joes and Grammatic nuts gain one more silver strand of hair. Sometimes, they post the way they speak. "i totally like saw the spirit of bc leaving and i took pics with the iphone, wanna uhhmmm see em? great here they are" They also often employ the use of ROFL, LOL, SMD, GTFO, LMAO, BRB, GTG, TTYL, NBSF, and other related Interspeak. -People who would give a crap, but they have a reason for lacking grammar skills: Usually due to lack of understanding or education of the English Language, due to mental or physical disability, or due to age and/or inability to efficiently navigate a computer keyboard, the grammar of these people might lack either a little or a lot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 16, 2012 21:49:21 GMT -8
I'm guessing that it's the same reason as why you change your posting and writing style from day to day. - Just random, no reason. ;D I think it's about time to stop harping on Cheese for his posting style... Sarcasm, Luke. Sarcasm. haha, I am intrigued by those who are the "Fluctuating level of give-a-crap" kind. - I wonder what that variables are that cause the fluctuations; and that's what I was wondering with this original post.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 15:09:53 GMT -8
Why doesn't WSF follow the two boat schedule, posted on the Website, for two boat service on the Fauntleroy-Vashon-Southworth Route for Saturday and Sunday? What two vessels are service on the Fauntleroy-Vashon-Southworth Route on Saturday and Sunday?
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Post by Kahloke on Oct 2, 2012 15:42:47 GMT -8
Why doesn't WSF follow the two boat schedule, posted on the Website, for two boat service on the Fauntleroy-Vashon-Southworth Route for Saturday and Sunday? What two vessels are service on the Fauntleroy-Vashon-Southworth Route on Saturday and Sunday? The 2 boat schedule is an emergency schedule that gets invoked only when a vessel breaks down and they don't have a replacement, or cannot get a replacement in a timely manner. The only time you see regular 2-boat service is during the winter time, when the Winter schedule is in effect. Saturday and Sunday get reduced to 2 vessels. The rest of the year, it's 3 vessels daily.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 20:50:01 GMT -8
Why doesn't WSF use the Issaquah as the first boat daily instead of the third boat Monday to Friday and the first boat on weekends?
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Post by SolDuc on Jan 22, 2013 21:05:10 GMT -8
Why doesn't WSF use the Issaquah as the first boat daily instead of the third boat Monday to Friday and the first boat on weekends? Let's do it step by step... 1. You probably know that there is a different schedule for week and weekend, right? 2. You also know what are the speeds of the Evergreens differ a lot from the Issaquahs 3. Finally, you know what departures are likely to be the busiest in the morning and evening. Combine all these three factors, then you'll get it: The week schedule is written so that the speedy and big Issaquah is #3 boat, thus having the busiest departures. Then the weekend schedule is written assuming that the Issaquah is #1.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 21:09:23 GMT -8
Why doesn't WSF use the Issaquah as the first boat daily instead of the third boat Monday to Friday and the first boat on weekends? Let's do it step by step... 1. You probably know that there is a different schedule for week and weekend, right? 2. You also know what are the speeds of the Evergreens differ a lot from the Issaquahs 3. Finally, you know what departures are likely to be the busiest in the morning and evening. Combine all these three factors, then you'll get it: The week schedule is written so that the speedy and big Issaquah is #3 boat, thus having the busiest departures. Then the weekend schedule is written assuming that the Issaquah is #1. Oh. I did realize that excluding the week and weekend are different. So, when the put two Issaquah class on the route in the future they are going to need a different schedule for the first boat?
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Post by northwesterner on Jan 22, 2013 21:18:33 GMT -8
Oh. I did realize that excluding the week and weekend are different. So, when the put two Issaquah class on the route in the future they are going to need a different schedule for the first boat? Two Issaquah's on the route in the future? The Sealth is the regular substitute for the Tillikum and Klahowya. There are many months each year when two Issaquah's run side by side on F-V-S. And no, they do not modify the schedule for the faster schedule.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2013 21:24:12 GMT -8
Oh. I did realize that excluding the week and weekend are different. So, when the put two Issaquah class on the route in the future they are going to need a different schedule for the first boat? Two Issaquah's on the route in the future? The Sealth is the regular substitute for the Tillikum and Klahowya. There are many months each year when two Issaquah's run side by side on F-V-S. And no, they do not modify the schedule for the faster schedule. In 2014 to replace an Evergreen state class ferries. By the way, it is an Issaquah 130 class vessel.
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Post by SolDuc on Jan 22, 2013 21:26:16 GMT -8
In 2014 to replace an Evergreen state class ferries. By the way, it is an Issaquah 130 class vessel. The longer dock time (37 more cars per load - 74 total more than an evergreen) will compensate for the higher speed.
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Post by SolDuc on Mar 24, 2013 14:19:29 GMT -8
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 6, 2013 0:02:50 GMT -8
For car deck loaded and unloaded footies (this is posted here but I'm asking for WSF in general), I know that when boarding there are several times to get on. But is there as well several times to get off (ie. before and after the cars) or is it just before the cars?
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Post by SS San Mateo on Apr 8, 2013 21:10:33 GMT -8
From what I've observed, it looks like they allow passengers to get off after the cars have been unloaded. They probably discourage it though.
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 8, 2013 21:44:21 GMT -8
From what I've observed, it looks like they allow passengers to get off after the cars have been unloaded. They probably discourage it though. Would you think I would get weird looks if I got out after the load on a mid-day Talequah to Point Defiance (or other way around) run?
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Post by SS San Mateo on Apr 24, 2013 11:38:28 GMT -8
From this morning. Vashon ferry terminal by planet_lb, on Flickr Walk-ons boarding the M/V Issaquah for the 5:45 AM sailing to Fauntleroy. The M/V Kitsap has just left to make the 5:40 AM sailing to Southworth. Interestingly this is the first time since late last year that the #1 and #2 vessels swapped running positions mid-week.
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