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MV Hiyu
Apr 6, 2006 18:27:12 GMT -8
Post by SS Shasta on Apr 6, 2006 18:27:12 GMT -8
Looks like the long idled MV Hiyu might be going back to work. According to the new Draft Plan for Washington State Ferries, MV Hiyu would be assigned to the new Vashon-Southworth run in 2014. This new route would be necessary as they begin running vessels from Southworth to downtown Seattle. The triangle route that currently serves both Southworth and Vashon would be eliminated under this draft plan.
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MV Hiyu
Apr 6, 2006 19:40:22 GMT -8
Post by SS San Mateo on Apr 6, 2006 19:40:22 GMT -8
I noticed that. The idea of using the Hiyu on the Vashon-Southworth route has been around at least as early as the late 70's.
-- LB
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MV Hiyu
Apr 6, 2006 20:53:26 GMT -8
Post by Neil on Apr 6, 2006 20:53:26 GMT -8
2014? Does WSF usually assign vessels that far in advance?
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MV Hiyu
Apr 8, 2006 11:51:38 GMT -8
Post by Shane on Apr 8, 2006 11:51:38 GMT -8
Wouldn't the Hiyu be in her 50's or 60's by then?
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MV Hiyu
Apr 8, 2006 12:23:10 GMT -8
Post by SS Shasta on Apr 8, 2006 12:23:10 GMT -8
Hmmm. Well, not exactly. If my math is correct, MV Hiyu should still be a young gal at 47. She was built in Portland, Oregon in 1967. She has been tied up at Eagle Harbor for six or seven years. Is she still being used as a training vessel for WSF?
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MV Hiyu
Apr 11, 2006 7:50:59 GMT -8
Post by EGfleet on Apr 11, 2006 7:50:59 GMT -8
Hmmm. Well, not exactly. If my math is correct, MV Hiyu should still be a young gal at 47. She was built in Portland, Oregon in 1967. She has been tied up at Eagle Harbor for six or seven years. Is she still being used as a training vessel for WSF? Last I heard the Nisqually had taken over that roll for now.
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MV Hiyu
Apr 11, 2006 11:12:09 GMT -8
Post by SS San Mateo on Apr 11, 2006 11:12:09 GMT -8
I think WSF was considering using her as a 2'nd boat on the Pt. Defiance-Tahlequah route at one point (saw this in the Vashon Beachcomber).
-- LB
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MV Hiyu
Apr 13, 2006 5:58:40 GMT -8
Post by Shane on Apr 13, 2006 5:58:40 GMT -8
Hmmm. Well, not exactly. If my math is correct, MV Hiyu should still be a young gal at 47. She was built in Portland, Oregon in 1967. She has been tied up at Eagle Harbor for six or seven years. Is she still being used as a training vessel for WSF? Last I heard the Nisqually had taken over that roll for now. Doesn't the Nisqually have her engines pulled out?
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MV Hiyu
Apr 13, 2006 12:09:36 GMT -8
Post by EGfleet on Apr 13, 2006 12:09:36 GMT -8
No, she still has her engines. They've not been fired up in nearly three years, and I've heard that there is some parts grabbing going on for the other Steel Electrics.
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MV Hiyu
Apr 30, 2006 9:40:57 GMT -8
Post by northwesterner on Apr 30, 2006 9:40:57 GMT -8
Can anyone remember the last Winter Schedule that the Hiyu sailed as the inter-island boat. I can remember riding it up in the San Juans about ten years ago.
The last time it sailed inter-island in the summer? Beyond the scope of my memory...
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MV Hiyu
Jun 2, 2006 16:48:22 GMT -8
Post by SS Shasta on Jun 2, 2006 16:48:22 GMT -8
Just wondering if WSF is maintaining a current Certificate of Inspection for the long idled MV Hiyu? There are plans to use MV Hiyu on the new Southworth-Vashon run when it is established in about 10 years.
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MV Hiyu
Jun 2, 2006 17:50:07 GMT -8
Post by Mike C on Jun 2, 2006 17:50:07 GMT -8
MV HIYU Speed in Knots: 10 Max Passengers: 200 Max Vehicles: 34
And they plan to use this on Southworth-Vashon? Question: By the looks of the current vessels on that route, wouldn't there be a small problem in capacity?
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MV Hiyu
Jun 2, 2006 18:26:59 GMT -8
Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 2, 2006 18:26:59 GMT -8
Good question. AFAIK, evacuation slides haven't been added (I'm assuming they are needed for a current certificate). There are plans to drydock her sometime soon (mentioned in the IFB section of the WSF website).
Probably not. Not many cars travel between Southworth & Vashon.
Capacity was an issue when the shuttle was being considered back in the early-mid 90's (mainly due to workers going to the now closed K-2 ski plant on Vashon).
-- LB
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MV Hiyu
Jun 2, 2006 19:51:08 GMT -8
Post by EGfleet on Jun 2, 2006 19:51:08 GMT -8
Vessel Results for Vessel: HIYU Vessel Information Vessel VIN Hull Number Flag Call-Sign Year Built HIYU 508159 UNITED STATES WX9133 1967 Vessel Particulars Service Length Breadth Depth Alternate VINs IMO Number Passenger (Inspected) 150.4 ft 63.0 ft 15.6 ft 508159 N/A Service Information Service Status Out of Service Date Last Removed from Service by In Service N/A N/A Tonnage Information Deadweight Gross Tonnage(GRT) Net Tonnage(NRT) Gross Tonnage(GT ITC) 498.0 338.0 Cargo Authority Vessel Documents and Certifications Document Agency Date Issued Expiration Date Stability Letter USCG August 18, 1995 Certificate of Inspection - Amended USCG June 7, 2001 June 7, 2002 Certificate of Inspection USCG May 24, 2002 May 24, 2003 Certificate of Inspection USCG June 2, 2003 June 2, 2004 Certificate of Inspection USCG June 14, 2004 June 14, 2005 Certificate of Inspection USCG May 20, 2005 May 20, 2006 CERTIFICATE OF DOCUMENTATION USCG November 8, 2005 December 31, 2006
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MV Hiyu
Jun 3, 2006 22:10:32 GMT -8
Post by old_wsf_fan on Jun 3, 2006 22:10:32 GMT -8
I have a big problem with this breaking up of the triangle route at Fauntleroy-Southworth. First of all, that route is a blessing for anyone trying to get to the peninsula, seeing that all the other cross-sound routes suffer from serious overloads. Second, if they wish to improve service for commuters from Southworth, then why not run a dedicated fourth vessel from Southworth to Colman dock, after they expand both terminals and add new slips. Third, I personally think that the State is off the mark on their' estimates on who uses that route. You cannot tell me that every commuter that uses that route works in downtown Seattle. I know these are for future projected growth estimates, but I know a few people that live on the peninsula and commute to jobs south of town. Fourth, what are the Vashon commuters to do? They would have to go to Fauntleroy instead of having the luxury of a straight ferry run to downtown Seattle. Fifth, I fail to see how the State is going to deal with the influx of more automobiles being dumped into that waterfront area and not having the infrastucture to deal with getting people to the freeways quickly and easily. even with a new and expanded Colman dock... Just a few thoughts to promote discussion...
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MV Hiyu
Jun 3, 2006 22:27:01 GMT -8
Post by Political Incorrectness on Jun 3, 2006 22:27:01 GMT -8
The concern about Colman dock is a serious one. There are a few problems, you cannot expand fauntleroy anymore therefore, you either put the toilet on the streets or relocate. The Seattle terminus should be just relocated to seattle, not broken up.
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MV Hiyu
Jun 4, 2006 12:37:56 GMT -8
Post by In Washington on Jun 4, 2006 12:37:56 GMT -8
Go to Fauntleroy on any weekday afternoon and you will understand the need to get Southworth traffic out of there. It is really hard to keep boats on time and get the appropriate traffic to them. Not having to compete with Southworth for auto spaces to Fauntleroy is also a plus for Vashon folks. Customer surveys have been done and apparently more Southworth commuters would rather go downtown than would Vashon users. This would also eliminate the need for Passenger Only boats for Southworth to Seattle commuters. Vashon likes it's exclusivity and having boats leaving from downtown Seattle would attract elements to the Island that would not meet it's "burkenstock/unshaved legs" inhabitants desires... Did I say that???
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MV Hiyu
Jun 4, 2006 13:02:29 GMT -8
Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 4, 2006 13:02:29 GMT -8
Vashon likes it's exclusivity and having boats leaving from downtown Seattle would attract elements to the Island that would not meet it's "burkenstock/unshaved legs" inhabitants desires... Did I say that??? That type of comment just might prompt a reply from "SS San Mateo", where he just might try the use of multiple adjectives / adverbs to color his response!
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MV Hiyu
Jun 4, 2006 19:22:51 GMT -8
Post by Retrovision on Jun 4, 2006 19:22:51 GMT -8
I look forward to taking a trip aboard, in 2014
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MV Hiyu
Jun 7, 2006 12:08:40 GMT -8
Post by SS Shasta on Jun 7, 2006 12:08:40 GMT -8
There has been a lot of interesting discussion about problems facing the Fauntleroy/Vashon/Southworth run. It seems like any solution is very complicated, expensive, and likely a long ways off. I use the route occasionally when I visit Seattle. I have often used the Southworth run to cross the sound because I hate driving in downtown Seattle. If that run is shifted to downtown Seattle, that alternative will disappear. I have also seen the problems of the long lines forming on streets near the Fauntleroy dock on busy afternoons.
Just wondering what might happen if WSF considered/attempted a less complicated change on a interim basis: What would happen if a 4th vessel the size of MV Evergreen State was assigned to the route on these busy afternoons? I don't think using larger vessels on the route would solve anything because of the additional time needed to unload/load. It's possible that vessels would need to wait a few minutes off Fauntleroy because only one slip is available. If the 4th vessel ran empty or with foot passengers only of the Vashon to Fauntleroy return, loading time could be speeded. Would this be worth a try to see what would happen?
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MV Hiyu
Jun 7, 2006 18:58:24 GMT -8
Post by old_wsf_fan on Jun 7, 2006 18:58:24 GMT -8
SS Shasta has the right idea... Why not try to run a 4th vessel during commuter hours from Fauntleroy to Southworth to see if that would help. They could easily let the Evergreen State escape tie-up for a few hours a day......
Due to budget limitations this idea probably would not float, (ok a really bad pun), but maybe even try a few more direct sailings from Fauntleroy as they do at times...
I just think that losing a cross-sound route from this departure point puts too much pressure on Colman Dock and downtown Seattle streets that in my opinion will never be restructured to handle additional ferry traffic.... Heck they haven't even properly repaved most surface streets in Seattle for years...
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MV Hiyu
Sept 11, 2006 9:59:56 GMT -8
Post by SS Shasta on Sept 11, 2006 9:59:56 GMT -8
Did WSF recently let the Certificate of Inspection expire on MV Hiyu? It appears that they did. According to the WSF web site MV Hiyu was drydocked this summer. Wonder what is going on? If the Certificate of Inspection is allowed to expire, is it more difficult to get it renewed at a later date?
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MV Hiyu
Sept 11, 2006 20:14:35 GMT -8
Post by EGfleet on Sept 11, 2006 20:14:35 GMT -8
Did WSF recently let the Certificate of Inspection expire on MV Hiyu? It appears that they did. According to the WSF web site MV Hiyu was drydocked this summer. Wonder what is going on? If the Certificate of Inspection is allowed to expire, is it more difficult to get it renewed at a later date? Go back up to post # 14....her current certificate expires December of this year.
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MV Hiyu
Sept 25, 2006 18:58:32 GMT -8
Post by Barnacle on Sept 25, 2006 18:58:32 GMT -8
Can anyone remember the last Winter Schedule that the Hiyu sailed as the inter-island boat. I can remember riding it up in the San Juans about ten years ago. The last time it sailed inter-island in the summer? Beyond the scope of my memory... I'm honestly not sure when her last appearance as the interisland boat was during summer schedule; prior to 1997 is the best I can give you (the SJI service included the Elwha--my assigned boat, Evergreen State, Kaleetan, Chelan (pre-furb), with the Nisqually as the interisland boat). I can tell you that the Hiyu last served as the scheduled inter-island boat in the Spring of 1998. The Nisqually took over year-round duties in June of that year, after a two-week shoulder schedule (got to work that one, too), until her retirement in about 2001. But when the Elwha demolished the dock at Orcas in 1999, the Hiyu came home for a few weeks. The Hiyu was the first ferry I worked as a WSF employee, as the interisland ferry.
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MV Hiyu
Nov 22, 2006 14:07:26 GMT -8
Post by SS Shasta on Nov 22, 2006 14:07:26 GMT -8
Since we were discussing the yard work scheduled for MV Nisqually, I noticed that the long idled MV Hiyu is also apparently away from Eagle Harbor for yard work at the Everett Shipyards. She is scheduled out from 13 Nov. until 22 Dec. Does she still travel under her own power? Wonder what they are doing on the Hiyu? Perhaps they are getting an early start on the work needed to return her to service on the Southworth-Vashon run in 2014 ;D.
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