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Post by SS San Mateo on Sept 23, 2014 18:02:01 GMT -8
The Yakima was at Colman Dock (#2 slip) this evening.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 14:00:42 GMT -8
The Yakima is at Anacortes Slip 3 (Tie-Up) now, and will take over for the Hyak in the #2 Position starting with the 1630 sailing to Lopez Island and Friday Harbor.
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Post by Kahloke on Sept 25, 2014 5:59:37 GMT -8
Yakima hasn't even been back in service a full day yet, and already is broken. Her first two sailings this morning have already been cancelled - quite the homecoming
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Post by EGfleet on Sept 25, 2014 6:37:26 GMT -8
Yakima hasn't even been back in service a full day yet, and already is broken. Her first two sailings this morning have already been cancelled - quite the homecoming You'd have thought, given that she's been out of service, what, four, five months? That maybe an additional day or two of sea trials might have been in order before they put her back into service. Then again, "Common Sense" and "Government Agency" have nothing to do with one another.
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Sept 25, 2014 15:50:18 GMT -8
Yakima hasn't even been back in service a full day yet, and already is broken. Her first two sailings this morning have already been cancelled - quite the homecoming Terrific.
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Post by Barnacle on Sept 26, 2014 12:19:19 GMT -8
Yakima hasn't even been back in service a full day yet, and already is broken. Her first two sailings this morning have already been cancelled - quite the homecoming Terrific. Those were all that was canceled... at least the breakdown wasn't related to the problems which had her out of service for all those months...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2014 16:34:23 GMT -8
Yakima hasn't even been back in service a full day yet, and already is broken. Her first two sailings this morning have already been cancelled - quite the homecoming You'd have thought, given that she's been out of service, what, four, five months? That maybe an additional day or two of sea trials might have been in order before they put her back into service. Then again, "Common Sense" and "Government Agency" have nothing to do with one another. They wanted to get her in service as soon as they could. A similar event like this happened with the Tokitae. They were going to keep her out for a few more days to test driving cars on, and to the upper deck and they didn't, because they needed her in service ASAP, and now they have a $66,000 dollar problem to fix her overnight on the spot up at Muk/Clinton
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Post by northwesterner on Sept 26, 2014 20:19:59 GMT -8
You'd have thought, given that she's been out of service, what, four, five months? That maybe an additional day or two of sea trials might have been in order before they put her back into service. Then again, "Common Sense" and "Government Agency" have nothing to do with one another. They wanted to get her in service as soon as they could. A similar event like this happened with the Tokitae. They were going to keep her out for a few more days to test driving cars on, and to the upper deck and they didn't, because they needed her in service ASAP, and now they have a $66,000 dollar problem to fix her overnight on the spot up at Muk/Clinton Your logic here is faulty... So you're saying, if they had kept the Tokitae out of service a few more days, they would have confirmed the scrapping issue? Then what? She would have been held out of service until she was modified? I just don't understand your reasoning which is -> They put the Tokitae into service without testing the ramps, therefore it will cost $66,000 to modify her. It seems they would have had to modify her whether she went into service with or without testing. The cost of modification would have been similar, right?
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Post by Kahloke on Sept 27, 2014 6:30:47 GMT -8
According to the WSF weekly status report, this is what the problem was
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 7:59:25 GMT -8
They wanted to get her in service as soon as they could. A similar event like this happened with the Tokitae. They were going to keep her out for a few more days to test driving cars on, and to the upper deck and they didn't, because they needed her in service ASAP, and now they have a $66,000 dollar problem to fix her overnight on the spot up at Muk/Clinton Your logic here is faulty... So you're saying, if they had kept the Tokitae out of service a few more days, they would have confirmed the scrapping issue? Then what? She would have been held out of service until she was modified? I just don't understand your reasoning which is -> They put the Tokitae into service without testing the ramps, therefore it will cost $66,000 to modify her. It seems they would have had to modify her whether she went into service with or without testing. The cost of modification would have been similar, right? The cost is more now because they have to pay workers to go up to Mukilteo/Clinton to go on the Tokitae, they had the Yakima and the Walla Walla at Vigor with the Tokitae so they would have had more workers to fix it.
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Post by northwesterner on Sept 27, 2014 15:48:18 GMT -8
Your logic here is faulty... So you're saying, if they had kept the Tokitae out of service a few more days, they would have confirmed the scrapping issue? Then what? She would have been held out of service until she was modified? I just don't understand your reasoning which is -> They put the Tokitae into service without testing the ramps, therefore it will cost $66,000 to modify her. It seems they would have had to modify her whether she went into service with or without testing. The cost of modification would have been similar, right? The cost is more now because they have to pay workers to go up to Mukilteo/Clinton to go on the Tokitae, they had the Yakima and the Walla Walla at Vigor with the Tokitae so they would have had more workers to fix it. Whose workers? Let me restate your reasoning: If they had delayed the roll out of the Tokitae, they would have been able to have a retrofit done on the ramps for less cost. This is because the Yakima and the Walla Walla were already at Vigor, therefore the Tokitae could be repaired for less cost. What? The Vigor workers repairing the Yakima and Walla Walla would have to be pulled of their jobs. WSF would get billed for the work on the Tokitae. Then, those projects would have to be restarted on the Walla Walla and Yakima. How are they saving money? Additionally, I'd assume that Vigor has a daily dry-dock / dockside charge. If the repairs took longer on the Yakima and Walla Walla because of work on the Tokitae, the daily charge would increase for the other two. Finally, Vigor charges WSF pretty high labor costs. We don't even know who is doing the overnight work on the Tokitae; it could be a contractor with lower labor charges.
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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Oct 7, 2014 5:24:28 GMT -8
The Yakima out of service this morning? What happened this time?
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Post by Cascadian Transport on Oct 7, 2014 16:25:07 GMT -8
The Yakima out of service this morning? What happened this time? Yakima's back in service, but running an hour and a half late. Terrific
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Post by Kahloke on Oct 9, 2014 19:11:57 GMT -8
Yakima approaching Anacortes on a Sunday afternoon - 05-Oct-2014:
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Post by suburbanite on Oct 10, 2014 20:36:56 GMT -8
"The Yakima out of service this morning? What happened this time?"
The WSF bulletin said a turbocharger problem. I didn't think the Yakima had turbocharged engines.
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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Oct 11, 2014 10:50:05 GMT -8
"The Yakima out of service this morning? What happened this time?" The WSF bulletin said a turbocharger problem. I didn't think the Yakima had turbocharged engines. Most to all of the Washington State Ferries vessels have Turbochargers on them. The Issaquahs has them, the Jumbos has them, the Tokitae has them, the Supers has them, I think the Evergreens has them, the KdTs has them because the Salish had to get one replaced, I think the Hiyu has turbochargers on both of the mains.
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Post by suburbanite on Oct 11, 2014 17:37:13 GMT -8
The supers certainly did not start out having turbocharged engines. Their original main engines were V-16 EMD 567B/Cs. All of the EMDs up to and including the 567C had roots type superchargers. The option of a supercharged engined or a higher horsepower turbochagred engine began with the D block EMDs. Did the Yakima get repowered with newer engines?
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Post by compdude787 on Oct 11, 2014 18:44:27 GMT -8
The supers certainly did not start out having turbocharged engines. Their original main engines were V-16 EMD 567B/Cs. All of the EMDs up to and including the 567C had roots type superchargers. The option of a supercharged engined or a higher horsepower turbochagred engine began with the D block EMDs. Did the Yakima get repowered with newer engines? Probably during her mid-life upgrade in 2000, she got new engines. Can someone verify this?
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Post by PeninsulaExplorer on Oct 11, 2014 19:11:26 GMT -8
The supers certainly did not start out having turbocharged engines. Their original main engines were V-16 EMD 567B/Cs. All of the EMDs up to and including the 567C had roots type superchargers. The option of a supercharged engined or a higher horsepower turbochagred engine began with the D block EMDs. Did the Yakima get repowered with newer engines? Probably during her mid-life upgrade in 2000, she got new engines. Can someone verify this? The Kaleetan and Yakima did get repowered during their upgrade. The Hyak got the Jumbos original refurbished engines. I don't know about the Elwha though.
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Post by Barnacle on Oct 12, 2014 5:07:19 GMT -8
Probably during her mid-life upgrade in 2000, she got new engines. Can someone verify this? The Kaleetan and Yakima did get repowered during their upgrade. The Hyak got the Jumbos original refurbished engines. I don't know about the Elwha though. I do believe the Elwha was repowered and she's packing 645s these days.
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Jan 1, 2015 17:30:53 GMT -8
So the Yakima is back in the yard. What is going on?
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jan 1, 2015 18:45:51 GMT -8
So the Yakima is back in the yard. What is going on? Yakima has been at Eagle Harbor the last two weeks sitting.
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Post by R30A on Jan 1, 2015 19:27:37 GMT -8
The Yakima has plenty of company in Eagle Harbor. When I took the Bainbridge ferry yesterday, there were so many boats it was hard to tell where one began and the other ended in the see of white and green.
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Post by Barnacle on Jan 2, 2015 7:04:33 GMT -8
So the Yakima is back in the yard. What is going on? Yakima has been at Eagle Harbor the last two weeks sitting. It isn't sitting; they're actively working on it.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Jan 2, 2015 20:46:45 GMT -8
Hard to tell from Pritchard Park but currently at Eagle Harbor would be accurate
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