Rhody
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Post by Rhody on May 21, 2010 17:34:52 GMT -8
I agree, definitely the Hyak!
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Rhody
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Post by Rhody on May 23, 2010 21:19:10 GMT -8
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Post by Barnacle on May 24, 2010 6:35:00 GMT -8
I'm a little lost as to how all this Hefty-bag foolishness is cheaper than drydocking... I can't imagine.
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Post by chokai on May 24, 2010 11:08:22 GMT -8
I'm a little lost as to how all this Hefty-bag foolishness is cheaper than drydocking... I can't imagine. Might it be an availability issue? My computer desk looks at the the Lake Union yard, the big dry dock has had a boat in it almost every day for the last 3 - 4 months. The Todd docks seem fairly busy also but I don't get to look at them as often.
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Post by Barnacle on May 24, 2010 11:39:15 GMT -8
I suppose there is that to consider. I don't have access to that kind of info.
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Post by chokai on May 24, 2010 11:56:41 GMT -8
I suppose there is that to consider. I don't have access to that kind of info. Ya know I wonder if the main dock at Lake Union could even lift a Super too. I just spent my lunch break looking to try to find specs and my google-fu is just not up to the task. Perhaps someone out there knows...
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Post by SS San Mateo on May 24, 2010 12:13:08 GMT -8
I don't think the drydock there can handle any of the WSF vessels.
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Post by BreannaF on May 24, 2010 20:30:47 GMT -8
At some point on some thread a couple of years ago, we were trying here to figure out how many drydocks there were in the NW that could handle a WSF ferry. If I remember right, the number was pretty small, and nobody mentioned one in Lake Union.
Of course, my memory could be faulty, and we all could have missed one......
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Post by northwesterner on May 24, 2010 21:58:49 GMT -8
The Lake Union drydock has lifted Supers in the past. I'm 95% certain of that.
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Post by Barnacle on May 25, 2010 5:19:53 GMT -8
I was about to say I thought they'd hoisted the Kaleetan during her refit, but checking Google Earth with the tape measure, their 410-foot drydock is only about 55 feet wide. That's about 30 feet narrower than you can really get to accomodate a Super.
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Post by SS San Mateo on May 25, 2010 8:43:32 GMT -8
I was about to say I thought they'd hoisted the Kaleetan during her refit, but checking Google Earth with the tape measure, their 410-foot drydock is only about 55 feet wide. That's about 30 feet narrower than you can really get to accomodate a Super. I suspect the drydocking portion of her refit was subcontracted out. When the Klahowya went through her refit in the mid-90s, she was drydocked at AK-WA Shipyards in Tacoma (Martinac didn't have a drydock large enough).
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Post by lmtengs on May 28, 2010 20:41:50 GMT -8
I was about to say I thought they'd hoisted the Kaleetan during her refit, but checking Google Earth with the tape measure, their 410-foot drydock is only about 55 feet wide. That's about 30 feet narrower than you can really get to accomodate a Super. I wouldn't trust GE's measurements for that kind of stuff. As an experiment, about 5 minutes ago, I measured the width of my street on GE. It stated this as 8.90 metres, curb to curb. I challenged this by running out with my 5-metre measuring tape, then measuring 5 metres from the curb, marking the 5 metre point with a water-bottle, then measuring to the far edge. My street is exactly 10.20 metres wide, leaving GE about 1.30 metres off. This is on a small measurement. On larger measurements like the one you are speaking of, it's probably up to 2 or three metres off. (To you Americans, 1 metre is 3 feet ) You can't always trust computers and satellite photos! ;D I think I'm going to test the distance between my house and my school on Earth this monday, then use the car's odometer to challenge Earth.
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FNS
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Post by FNS on May 28, 2010 22:20:40 GMT -8
(To you Americans, 1 metre is 3 feet ) Here's a conversion chart: Here she was taken from my cell phone camera Thursday evening on I-5 southbound aboard a bus to Seattle. I just wonder how many tourists have gawked at this new looking YAKIMA? Even from the Space Needle?!
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Post by BreannaF on May 29, 2010 2:43:34 GMT -8
I was about to say I thought they'd hoisted the Kaleetan during her refit, but checking Google Earth with the tape measure, their 410-foot drydock is only about 55 feet wide. That's about 30 feet narrower than you can really get to accomodate a Super. You can't always trust computers and satellite photos! ;D That being said, when it comes to things nautical, I feel safer about Barnacle's guesses than many other people's facts. I wouldn't trust GE's measurements for that kind of stuff. As an experiment, about 5 minutes ago, I measured the width of my street on GE. It stated this as 8.90 metres, curb to curb. I challenged this by running out with my 5-metre measuring tape, then measuring 5 metres from the curb, marking the 5 metre point with a water-bottle, then measuring to the far edge. My street is exactly 10.20 metres wide, leaving GE about 1.30 metres off. This is on a small measurement. On larger measurements like the one you are speaking of, it's probably up to 2 or three metres off. (To you Americans, 1 metre is 3 feet ) In my neighbourhood, a meter is about 3 feet + 3 1/2 inches. So, if my street is 10.2m wide, that makes it about 33 1/2 feet wide. On the other hand, if I use the standard (Canadian ) 3-foot meter, then my street is only 30.6 feet wide, which comes out to 9.33m. Not quite 8.9m, but the difference is a small measurement. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- And...... I'd better apologize ahead of time for being in "full-sarcasm" mode tonight. Sorry. ;D =============================================== Oh, and I DO have a real Yakima question: Do we know what the estimated completion date (for the paint and work in Lake Union) is? I would love to try to accidentally be in the neighborhood when they move it from the lake.
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Post by EGfleet on May 29, 2010 4:32:41 GMT -8
Oh, and I DO have a real Yakima question: Do we know what the estimated completion date (for the paint and work in Lake Union) is? I would love to try to accidentally be in the neighborhood when they move it from the lake. Last I saw she was scheduled to be back in the islands a week after summer schedule starts. That first week of Summer she's supposed to be at Eagle Harbor for her annual inspection, which would leave her on the lake until about June...19th or so.
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 29, 2010 8:51:22 GMT -8
Here she was taken from my cell phone camera Thursday evening on I-5 southbound aboard a bus to Seattle. I just wonder how many tourists have gawked at this new looking YAKIMA? Even from the Space Needle?! It looks like the Yakima has joined the KKK. ;D
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Post by fargowolf on May 29, 2010 16:03:54 GMT -8
Bwahahahahaha... *gasps* Bwahahahahahahaha... "Owww... Now my gut hurts from laughing .... Bwahahahahahahaha...
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Post by Kam on May 29, 2010 16:18:26 GMT -8
Hey you hosers, the metric system is easy, just double it and add 30 eh!
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Post by lmtengs on May 29, 2010 21:37:30 GMT -8
Hey you hosers, the metric system is easy, just double it and add 30 eh! Don't we all love Bob and Doug, eh? Beauties, they were.
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Post by Barnacle on May 30, 2010 3:57:25 GMT -8
I don't take Google Earth's measurements at face value, sir. I checked Lake Union Drydock's web page, and it stated their drydock was capable of accodomating vessels up to 410 feet. Using the measuring tool to verify that the drydock was at least close to that (it measured up at about 412 feet or so, which can be put down to a positioning error on my behalf where I started the measurements from), it measured out at about 55 feet across, 18 feet narrower than a Super--and that's with the rub rails pushing the drydock walls out a bit. On a scale of that size it would be hard to lose that much distance.
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Post by Barnacle on May 30, 2010 3:59:12 GMT -8
I think I'm going to test the distance between my house and my school on Earth this monday, then use the car's odometer to challenge Earth. I'd take Google Earth's measurements over an odometer. Those can be affected by the size of your tires. When I replaced the tires on my truck, I noticed my house got slightly closer to work. But that was a year or two ago, so it's back now.
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Post by lmtengs on Jun 2, 2010 13:24:22 GMT -8
I think I'm going to test the distance between my house and my school on Earth this monday, then use the car's odometer to challenge Earth. I'd take Google Earth's measurements over an odometer. Those can be affected by the size of your tires. When I replaced the tires on my truck, I noticed my house got slightly closer to work. But that was a year or two ago, so it's back now. What would be the most accurate measuring device that I would be able to use to measure a distance of this scale?
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Post by Barnacle on Jun 2, 2010 16:44:05 GMT -8
A micrometer.
Hey, you said accurate, not practical.
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Post by lmtengs on Jun 2, 2010 19:29:16 GMT -8
A micrometer. Hey, you said accurate, not practical. I knew somebody would say something like that What would be the most accurate PRACTICAL way to measure the distance.
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Post by Kahloke on Jun 25, 2010 18:34:41 GMT -8
Yakima's back in Eagle Harbor tonight. Her sides still look terrible - they won't be able to re-paint those until she goes into drydock next year - but the top and insides are all freshly painted. Here's a link to some photos provided by WSDOT: www.flickr.com/photos/wsdot/sets/72157624230469931/
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